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Dan Tilque
Jul 3, 2018, 6:36:03 PM7/3/18
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Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
(time zone -7 UTC).
1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
various countries? (by area, not population)
Note: First level administrative subdivisions is a collective name for
subnational units (states, provinces, territories, semi-autonymous
regions, etc.) that are not part of a larger subnational unit.
--
Dan Tilque
In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
(time zone -7 UTC).
1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
various countries? (by area, not population)
Note: First level administrative subdivisions is a collective name for
subnational units (states, provinces, territories, semi-autonymous
regions, etc.) that are not part of a larger subnational unit.
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque
Jul 3, 2018, 7:32:03 PM7/3/18
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Dan Tilque wrote:
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
For this question, rivers do not include those where a combined
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
river+tributary is longer than the nominal main river.
--
Dan Tilque
Mark Brader
Jul 3, 2018, 8:57:14 PM7/3/18
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Dan Tilque:
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
By what measure, in case it matters?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Big programs are a bug."
m...@vex.net -- Geoff Collyer
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
What if people give more than 5 answers on a question?
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Big programs are a bug."
m...@vex.net -- Geoff Collyer
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 4, 2018, 4:31:53 AM7/4/18
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
>
Russia, Canada, USA, China, Brazil
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
>
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
>
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
>
Sakha is one of the 89 constituent entities in the Russian Federation,
but I seem to recall that Putin introduced a division of seven
administrative units on top of these 89, and in that case five of
these are likely to be the answers. But I have no idea what the names
of these units are. (And even I am wrong about these ober-units, I would
expect that there are more answers in Russia, but I have no idea what
the names are, which I why I placing my bets in China.)
Dan Tilque
Jul 4, 2018, 3:32:00 PM7/4/18
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
>> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
>> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
>> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> What if people give more than 5 answers on a question?
Then only the first five answers they give will be considered. I'd
> Dan Tilque:
>> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
>> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
>> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
>> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> What if people give more than 5 answers on a question?
thought about putting this in the original quiz, but it hasn't been a
problem in past quizzes, so I figured I didn't need to specify it.
>
>> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
>
> By what measure, in case it matters?
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque
Jul 4, 2018, 3:38:36 PM7/4/18
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:
>
>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>>
>
> Sakha, Tibet, Alaska, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia
>
> Sakha is one of the 89 constituent entities in the Russian Federation,
> but I seem to recall that Putin introduced a division of seven
> administrative units on top of these 89, and in that case five of
> these are likely to be the answers. But I have no idea what the names
> of these units are.
As far as I can tell, those divisions are purely for the administrative
>
>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>>
>
> Sakha, Tibet, Alaska, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia
>
> Sakha is one of the 89 constituent entities in the Russian Federation,
> but I seem to recall that Putin introduced a division of seven
> administrative units on top of these 89, and in that case five of
> these are likely to be the answers. But I have no idea what the names
> of these units are.
convenience of the central government. They have no governments
themselves, so I don't count them.
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 4, 2018, 5:05:57 PM7/4/18
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
> As far as I can tell, those divisions are purely for the administrative
> convenience of the central government. They have no governments
> themselves, so I don't count them.
>
Good for me. :-)
> As far as I can tell, those divisions are purely for the administrative
> convenience of the central government. They have no governments
> themselves, so I don't count them.
>
If memory servers, they have governors which are appointed by Monsieur Putin
himself. Presumably, the governors have some people around them, but there
is no locally elected body. Then again, that was not required in the
original question.
Mark Brader
Jul 4, 2018, 6:45:08 PM7/4/18
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Dan Tilque:
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
Nile, Amazon, Mississippi, Volga, Yenisei.
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
Greenland, New Guinea, Borneo, Baffin, Sumatra.
/* I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6. */
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Earth.
/* The lists by mass and diameter as the same, actually */
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
Alpha Centauri, Barnard's star, Wolf 359, Sirius, Proxima Centauri.
/* Proxima Centauri is probably wrong (as I understand it it's believed,
though not known for certain, to be part of Alpha Centauri), but I only
had four guesses without it. My other guess would have been "Lalande"
and a 5-digit number, and since I can't remember the number, no hope. */
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
Western Australia, Queensland, Northern Territory (Australia), Nunavut,
Northwest Territories (Canada).
/* Interesting one. I wouldn't be surprised if there are correct
answers in Russia, for example, but I don't know of any. At first
I was going to go with Alaska, Ontario, and Quebec, but then I
remembered Australia. */
--
Mark Brader "Computers get paid to extract relevant
Toronto information from files; people should not
m...@vex.net have to do such mundane tasks." -- Ian Darwin
My text in this article is in the public domain.
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Russia, Canada, China, USA, Brazil.
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
/* I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6. */
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
/* The lists by mass and diameter as the same, actually */
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
/* Proxima Centauri is probably wrong (as I understand it it's believed,
though not known for certain, to be part of Alpha Centauri), but I only
had four guesses without it. My other guess would have been "Lalande"
and a 5-digit number, and since I can't remember the number, no hope. */
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
Northwest Territories (Canada).
/* Interesting one. I wouldn't be surprised if there are correct
answers in Russia, for example, but I don't know of any. At first
I was going to go with Alaska, Ontario, and Quebec, but then I
remembered Australia. */
--
Mark Brader "Computers get paid to extract relevant
Toronto information from files; people should not
m...@vex.net have to do such mundane tasks." -- Ian Darwin
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Peter Smyth
Jul 5, 2018, 6:04:08 AM7/5/18
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Dan Tilque wrote:
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5
> (largest, longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have
> to give them in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5
> asked for, you get the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so
> guesses are encouraged.
>
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Russia, Canada, China, USA, Brazil
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5
> (largest, longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have
> to give them in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5
> asked for, you get the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so
> guesses are encouraged.
>
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
Amazon, Nile, Yangtze, Mississippi, Congo
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
Greenland, Borneo, Great Britain, Java, New Guinea
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Venus
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
Alpha Centauri, Proxima Centauri
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of
> the various countries? (by area, not population)
Siberia, Nunavut, Western Australia, Alaska, Northern Territory
> the various countries? (by area, not population)
Peter Smyth
Dan Tilque
Jul 6, 2018, 3:12:29 PM7/6/18
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up into a small number (usually 10 to 12) regions or districts for ease
of administration. The Forest Service, Environmental Protection Agency,
Bureau of Land Management, Geologic Survey, Coast Guard, and others all
do this. And these districts all have an appointed administrator. I
could be wrong, but it looks like the Russian regions are roughly the
same, except at a higher level.
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque
Jul 8, 2018, 8:51:25 PM7/8/18
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Reminder: you still have about a full day to enter this quiz. I added
the clarifications within this version of the quiz.
Dan Tilque wrote:
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> Clarification: if anyone gives more than 5 answers, only the first
> five will count.
the clarifications within this version of the quiz.
Dan Tilque wrote:
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> five will count.
>
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
> Clarification: For this question, rivers do not include those where
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
> a combined river+tributary is longer than the nominal main river.
>
>
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
>
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
> Clarification: largest by diameter.
>
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Dan Blum
Jul 8, 2018, 10:21:47 PM7/8/18
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Dan Tilque <dti...@frontier.com> wrote:
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Russia
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Canada
USA
China
Kazakhstan
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
Nile
Mississippi
Volga
Yangtze
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
New Guinea
Borneo
Java
Madagascar
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Earth
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
Barnard's Star
Wolf 359
Sirius
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
Western Australia
Quebec
Ontario
Tibet
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Calvin
Jul 8, 2018, 11:47:48 PM7/8/18
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On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 8:36:03 AM UTC+10, Dan Tilque wrote:
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Rusia
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Canada
China
USA
Brazil
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
Yanghtze
Volga
Amazon
Irrawaddy
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
New Guinea
Borneo
Madagascar
Sumatra
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Saturn
Neptune
Uranus
Earth
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
Proxima Centauri
Barnand's Star
Sirius
Canopus
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
Siberia
Yukon
Northwest Territories
Tibet
cheers,
calvin
Dan Tilque
Jul 10, 2018, 12:37:06 AM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque wrote:
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Russia
> Welcome to RQ #296. Sorry for the delay.
>
> In each of the questions you will be asked to name the best 5 (largest,
> longest, nearest) of some type of object. You do not have to give them
> in any order; if any answer you give is one of the 5 asked for, you get
> the point. No penalty for wrong answers, so guesses are encouraged.
>
> This quiz will run until Monday, 09 July 2018 in the evening my time
> (time zone -7 UTC).
>
>
> 1. What are the 5 largest countries? (by area, not population)
Canada
USA
China
Brazil
>
> 2. What are the 5 longest rivers in the world?
Nile
Yangtze
Huang He (Yellow River)
Paraná
Wikipedia only lists longest rivers by combined main+tributary, so I had
to compile this list myself. See below for full list.
>
> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
Greenland
New Guinea
Borneo
Madagascar
Baffin
New Guinea
Borneo
Madagascar
Mark gets credit for being the only one to name Baffin.
>
> 4. What are the 5 largest planets in the solar system?
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Earth
>
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Earth
>
> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
Alpha Centauri
Barnard's Star
Wolf 359
Lalande 21185
Barnard's Star
Wolf 359
Sirius
Didn't really expect anyone to get #4, although Mark knew the name of
the astronomer/catalog that its name comes from. As for Proxima, there
was a paper earlier this year that strongly supported it being part of
the Alpha C system, so I'm going with that. If you include brown dwarfs,
there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
>
> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
> various countries? (by area, not population)
Western Australia
Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia)
Greenland
Nunavut
Erland is the only one to get Sakha. Also see below for full list.
Scores:
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 T
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
Mark 5 2 4 5 4 2 22
Dan Blum 4 3 4 5 4 1 21
Calvin 5 3 4 5 3 1 21
Erland 5 3 4 5 2 1 20
Peter Smyth 5 3 3 4 1 2 18
So Mark edges out Dan and Calvin, so it's back to him for RQ #297.
Congratulations, Mark.
Besides the list of rivers, I also had to compile a list of internal
regions. Here are the two lists. I may have missed a river or two, but
I'm fairly certain not among the top five.
Rivers length (km)
====== ===========
Amazon 6992.6
Nile 6853
Yangtze 6357
Huang He 5464
Paraná 4880
Lena 4400
Congo 4370
Missouri 3767
Mississippi 3734
Ob 3650
Volga 3530
Yenisei 3438
Internal subdivisions size (sq km)
===================== ============
Sakha Republic (Russia) 3,103,200
Western Australia 2,645,615
Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia) 2,339,700
Greenland 2,166,086
Nunavut 2,038,722
Queensland 1,852,642
Alaska 1,717,856
Xinjiang (China) 1,664,897
Amazonas (Brazil) 1,570,745.7
Quebec 1,542,056
Tyumen Oblast (Russia) 1,435,200
Northwest Territories 1,346,106
Pará (Brazil) 1,247,689.5
Tibet 1,228,400
Inner Mongolia 1,183,000
Ontario 1,076,395
These were all that I could find with at least 1,000,000 sq km.
--
Dan Tilque
Mark Brader
Jul 10, 2018, 2:13:55 AM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque:
I commented: "I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6."
In fact it's #10 and another Canadian Arctic island, Victoria, is larger
at #9. #6 is Sumatra, which was a wrong answer for me.
> > 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
with it not accepted.
> So Mark edges out Dan and Calvin, so it's back to him for RQ #297.
And so I still do with the rescoring. I don't have one ready to go this
time, but I'll think about it shortly.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Let us knot coin gnu werds huitch
m...@vex.net are spelld rong." -- Rik Fischer Smoody
> > 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
...
> Mark gets credit for being the only one to name Baffin.
Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
I commented: "I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6."
In fact it's #10 and another Canadian Arctic island, Victoria, is larger
at #9. #6 is Sumatra, which was a wrong answer for me.
> > 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
> Didn't really expect anyone to get #4, although Mark knew the name of
> the astronomer/catalog that its name comes from.
I knew it had a 5-digit number too.
> the astronomer/catalog that its name comes from.
> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
with it not accepted.
> So Mark edges out Dan and Calvin, so it's back to him for RQ #297.
time, but I'll think about it shortly.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Let us knot coin gnu werds huitch
m...@vex.net are spelld rong." -- Rik Fischer Smoody
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 10, 2018, 3:42:35 AM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>
> Sakha Republic (Russia)
> Western Australia
> Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia)
> Greenland
> Nunavut
>
> Erland is the only one to get Sakha. Also see below for full list.
>
If Sakha does not ring a bell: it is also known as Yakutia.
>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>
> Sakha Republic (Russia)
> Western Australia
> Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia)
> Greenland
> Nunavut
>
> Erland is the only one to get Sakha. Also see below for full list.
>
I feel sort of stupid for not spotting Western Australia. At least my
Chinese entries were correct so far that they are actual subdivisions.
I would question Greenland on this list. Greenland is not an "administrative
subdivision" of Denmark, but rather an un-independent country with a high
degree of autonomy. For instance, so far, it is the only area to have
left the European Union. That would make Queensland the next in line, which
some entrants (not me) had.
Dan Tilque
Jul 10, 2018, 12:30:12 PM7/10/18
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>>> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
> ...
>> Mark gets credit for being the only one to name Baffin.
>
> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
You certainly did say Baffin. Here's your answer list, which I copied
> Dan Tilque:
>>> 3. What are the 5 largest islands in the world? (not Australia)
> ...
>> Mark gets credit for being the only one to name Baffin.
>
> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
and pasted:
| Greenland, New Guinea, Borneo, Baffin, Sumatra.
>
> I commented: "I hope Ellesmere isn't on there -- I think it might be #6."
> In fact it's #10 and another Canadian Arctic island, Victoria, is larger
> at #9. #6 is Sumatra, which was a wrong answer for me.
Right, you missed Madagascar
> In fact it's #10 and another Canadian Arctic island, Victoria, is larger
> at #9. #6 is Sumatra, which was a wrong answer for me.
>
>>> 5. What are the 5 nearest star systems to the sun? (not brown dwarfs)
>
>> Didn't really expect anyone to get #4, although Mark knew the name of
>> the astronomer/catalog that its name comes from.
>
> I knew it had a 5-digit number too.
>
>> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
>
> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
> with it not accepted.
scoring stands.
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Tilque
Jul 10, 2018, 12:53:15 PM7/10/18
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
>>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>> Sakha Republic (Russia)
>> Western Australia
>> Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia)
>> Greenland
>> Nunavut
>
> Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
>>> 6. What are the 5 largest first level administrative subdivisions of the
>>> various countries? (by area, not population)
>> Sakha Republic (Russia)
>> Western Australia
>> Krasnoyarsk Krai (Russia)
>> Greenland
>> Nunavut
>
> I would question Greenland on this list. Greenland is not an "administrative
> subdivision" of Denmark, but rather an un-independent country with a high
> degree of autonomy. For instance, so far, it is the only area to have
> left the European Union. That would make Queensland the next in line, which
> some entrants (not me) had.
At the bottom of the quiz, I defined first level administrative
> subdivision" of Denmark, but rather an un-independent country with a high
> degree of autonomy. For instance, so far, it is the only area to have
> left the European Union. That would make Queensland the next in line, which
> some entrants (not me) had.
subdivisions thusly:
| Note: First level administrative subdivisions is a collective name for
| subnational units (states, provinces, territories, semi-autonymous
| regions, etc.) that are not part of a larger subnational unit.
is. So the answer stands.
As for leaving the EU, according to Wikipedia, Algeria left when it
became independent and Saint Barthélemy, a Caribbean island owned by
France, left also. I thought that St-Pierre et Miquelon and French
Guinea also left, but apparently I'm wrong.
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Erland Sommarskog
Jul 10, 2018, 4:29:17 PM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque (dti...@frontier.com) writes:
>> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
>
> You certainly did say Baffin. Here's your answer list, which I copied
> and pasted:
>
I think Mark wants to say that is situated closest to the island of the
>> Well, I think I am the closest of the entrants to it.
>
> You certainly did say Baffin. Here's your answer list, which I copied
> and pasted:
>
contestants. Hey, he even lives in the same country.
Myself, I have flewn over it many times and some times looked down on
the ice and been think "hope we don't have to land here". I did consider it
for a short moment, before I entered Sumatra as my #5.
Mark Brader
Jul 10, 2018, 6:20:13 PM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque:
for not knowing.
> Sirius is a correct answer and the scoring stands.
Good enough, thanks.
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m...@vex.net | is always right" -- Michael DeCorte
>>> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
>>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
Mark Brader:
>>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
>> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
>> with it not accepted.
Dan Tilque:
>> with it not accepted.
> I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs.
But you didn't mention, above, that those two were brown dwarfs. Sorry
for not knowing.
> Sirius is a correct answer and the scoring stands.
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Mark Brader
Jul 10, 2018, 6:25:02 PM7/10/18
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Dan Tilque:
before the EU was formed. I've heard that St-Pierre et Miquelon gave
up overseas-department status because of European taxes, but that also
happened before the EU was formed -- perhaps they left the EC.
There is no "French Guinea", but as far as I know the overseas departments
such as French Guiana are part of the EU.
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Mark Brader, Toronto | "B-b-but laziness is the only virtue I have *left*!"
m...@vex.net | -- Jutta Degener
> As for leaving the EU, according to Wikipedia, Algeria left when it
> became independent and Saint Barthélemy, a Caribbean island owned by
> France, left also. I thought that St-Pierre et Miquelon and French
> Guinea also left, but apparently I'm wrong.
I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
> became independent and Saint Barthélemy, a Caribbean island owned by
> France, left also. I thought that St-Pierre et Miquelon and French
> Guinea also left, but apparently I'm wrong.
before the EU was formed. I've heard that St-Pierre et Miquelon gave
up overseas-department status because of European taxes, but that also
happened before the EU was formed -- perhaps they left the EC.
There is no "French Guinea", but as far as I know the overseas departments
such as French Guiana are part of the EU.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "B-b-but laziness is the only virtue I have *left*!"
m...@vex.net | -- Jutta Degener
Dan Tilque
Jul 10, 2018, 11:13:28 PM7/10/18
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Dan Tilque:
>>>> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
>>>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
>
> Mark Brader:
>>> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
>>> with it not accepted.
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs.
>
> But you didn't mention, above, that those two were brown dwarfs. Sorry
> for not knowing.
You chopped off the first part of that sentence. It started "If you
> Dan Tilque:
>>>> there are two systems that fit in between Barnard's and Wolf 359: Luhman
>>>> 16 and WISE 0855. I didn't expect anyone to know those, so I excluded them.
>
> Mark Brader:
>>> Oh, I say! In that case Sirius is a wrong answer and I request a rescoring
>>> with it not accepted.
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> I explicitly excluded brown dwarfs.
>
> But you didn't mention, above, that those two were brown dwarfs. Sorry
> for not knowing.
include brown dwarfs, ..."
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Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 11, 2018, 3:53:33 AM7/11/18
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
> before the EU was formed.
I guess that Dan to simplify equates EU with its predecessors, or simply
> I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
> before the EU was formed.
sees it as the same thing which have had different names over the years.
The difference between Greenland and Algeria is that Algeria left exactly
because it became independent. Saint Barthélemy is a similar case: according
to Wikipedia, they voted to leave Guadelope in 2003 to become an "overseas
collectivity of France", and I guess this had the consequence that they
are no longer part of the European Union.
Greenland on the other hand, first gained autonomy from Denmark, and then
in 1982 they voted to leave the EEC (as it was called then). This is
different from the Faroe Islands that were autonomous when Denmark
joined the EEC, so they decided to stay out from the beginning.
Mark Brader
Jul 11, 2018, 2:01:51 PM7/11/18
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Dan Tilque:
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m...@vex.net | warnings about marmalade." --Matt Ridley
> You chopped off the first part of that sentence. It started "If you
> include brown dwarfs, ..."
Sorry, I didn't see that!
> include brown dwarfs, ..."
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Dan Tilque
Jul 11, 2018, 5:38:54 PM7/11/18
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Erland Sommarskog wrote:
> Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
>> I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
>> before the EU was formed.
>
> I guess that Dan to simplify equates EU with its predecessors, or simply
> sees it as the same thing which have had different names over the years.
Hey, I was just citing Wikipedia. Blame them.
> Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
>> I don't know about St-Barthélemy, but Algeria was independent decades
>> before the EU was formed.
>
> I guess that Dan to simplify equates EU with its predecessors, or simply
> sees it as the same thing which have had different names over the years.
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