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Mark Brader
Nov 18, 2011, 7:45:16 PM11/18/11
to
These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
* Final, Round 3 - History
A. British Royals: How Many?
In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
name, like "George" for King George VI.
A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
England?
A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
B. US Constitutional Amendments
There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
the United States shall be composed of two Senators
from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
ratified, within 10.
B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
shall take effect, until an election of representatives
shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
ratification process for this amendment?
B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
Give the amendment number within 1.
C. Balloons
C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
within 5?
C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
D. Names for Wars
D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
what is that?
D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
used in English for what we now call World War I?
D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
countries. What other name, referring particularly to
the North American part of the war, is more commonly
used in the US?
E. Popes
E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
skipped over?
E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
Mark Brader Table feel plays a large part, but here
Toronto I only have keyboard feel.
m...@vex.net --Stu Goodgold, in rec.games.bridge
My text in this article is in the public domain.
and should be interpreted accordingly.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
* Final, Round 3 - History
A. British Royals: How Many?
In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
name, like "George" for King George VI.
A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
England?
A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
B. US Constitutional Amendments
There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
the United States shall be composed of two Senators
from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
ratified, within 10.
B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
shall take effect, until an election of representatives
shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
ratification process for this amendment?
B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
Give the amendment number within 1.
C. Balloons
C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
within 5?
C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
D. Names for Wars
D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
what is that?
D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
used in English for what we now call World War I?
D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
countries. What other name, referring particularly to
the North American part of the war, is more commonly
used in the US?
E. Popes
E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
skipped over?
E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
Mark Brader Table feel plays a large part, but here
Toronto I only have keyboard feel.
m...@vex.net --Stu Goodgold, in rec.games.bridge
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Marc Dashevsky
Nov 18, 2011, 10:33:34 PM11/18/11
to
In article <RKydncR3ooeBYVvT...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
2
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
2
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
1840
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
It viuolated itself.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
14
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
1980
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
1992
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
1925
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
The Great War
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
French and Indian War
--
Go to http://MarcDashevsky.com to send me e-mail.
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
3
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
--
Go to http://MarcDashevsky.com to send me e-mail.
Joshua Kreitzer
Nov 18, 2011, 11:53:18 PM11/18/11
to
On Nov 18, 6:45 pm, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
2; 1
> England?
(for some reason I don't think most of Henry's wives were actually
crowned)
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
(William IV was a King of the United Kingdom, not a King of England;
his kingdom included England but that's not the same thing)
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
(and the last two of them were also Kings of England)
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
17th Amendment
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Dan Tilque
Nov 19, 2011, 1:29:57 AM11/19/11
to
Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
> my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
>
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
None of them. They were all Queen Consorts, which is not the same as the
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
> my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
>
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
Queen of England.
>
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
>
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>
>
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
>
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
was proposed along with the first 10 amendments.
>
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
>
>
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
>
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
>
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
>
>
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
>
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
>
>
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
>
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
>
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
Dan Tilque
"I can't believe this. Trapped in Ryoval's basement with a sex-starved
teenage werewolf. There was nothing about this in any of my Imperial
Academy training manuals..."
-- "Labyrinth", Lois McMaster Bujold
Dan Blum
Nov 19, 2011, 10:05:06 AM11/19/11
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> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
2; 3
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
7
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
17th amendment
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
> D. Names for Wars
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
> E. Popes
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Erland Sommarskog
Nov 19, 2011, 11:01:15 AM11/19/11
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
6
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
>
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se
Pete
Nov 19, 2011, 12:10:34 PM11/19/11
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in
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> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
> my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
>
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
2
>
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
3
>
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
2
>
>
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
1810; 1831
>
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
>
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
12; 15
>
>
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
1965; 1976
>
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
1998; 2003
>
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
>
>
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
The Great Patriotic War
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
The Great War
>
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
The French and Indian War
>
>
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
XIII
>
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
Leo; Clement
>
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Leo; John
>
Pete
news:RKydncR3ooeBYVvT...@vex.net:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days. For further information see
> my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
>
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
>
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
>
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>
>
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
>
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
>
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
>
>
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
>
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
>
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
>
>
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
>
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
>
>
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
>
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
>
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
>
Pete
Stan Brown
Nov 19, 2011, 3:59:26 PM11/19/11
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:45:16 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
Five
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
after the Act of Union 1707; four, if you count William IV, King of
the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland 1830-1837.
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
enough States.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
I don't even have silly answers for these.
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
I've often wondered what happens if a pope meets an antipope: do they
vanish in a burst of pure energy?
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
Peter Smyth
Nov 20, 2011, 8:23:29 AM11/20/11
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ratified.
Peter Smyth
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>* Final, Round 3 - History
>
>A. British Royals: How Many?
>
>In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
>Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
>name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
5
>
>A. British Royals: How Many?
>
>In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
>Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
>name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
3
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
7
>
>B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
>There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
>originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
14, 17
>B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
>There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
>originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
There was a long delay between the amendment being proposed and it being
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
ratified.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
14, 17
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
>
>C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
1930
>C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
1990
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
1850
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
>
>D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
The Great War
>D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
>
>
>E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
12, 13
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
>
>
>E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
Pius
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Clement
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Peter Smyth
Rob Parker
Nov 20, 2011, 5:12:12 PM11/20/11
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> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
6; 4
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Rob
Calvin
Nov 20, 2011, 6:21:15 PM11/20/11
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:45:16 +1000, Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
Good question. Not Anne of Cleves surely, and I have doubts about Anne
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
Boleyn though she may have been after Katherine of Aragon died.
4, 5
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
>
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
>
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--
cheers,
calvin
Mark Brader
Nov 21, 2011, 6:16:14 PM11/21/11
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Mark Brader:
for the round.
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
I wrote B, D, and question C3.
> * Final, Round 3 - History
This was the hardest round in the original game.
> A. British Royals: How Many?
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
and Dan Blum.
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
The intended answer was 4 -- the last one immediately preceded
Queen Victoria and was her uncle -- but, as some entrants noted,
William IV was actually King of the UK rather than of England.
This is particularly annoying considering that the next question
hinged on the same issue and neither I nor the author of this triple
considered the point. I'm accepting either 3 or 4. 4 for Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, Stan, Peter, Rob, and Calvin.
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
17th (accepting 16th-18th); 1913 (accepting 1903-23). 4 for Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, and Stan. 3 for Rob. 2 for Peter.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
It took centuries -- Congress passed the amendment in 1789 along with
the first 10 amendments that were ratified (the ones now collectively
called as the Bill of Rights). 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Stan,
and Peter.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
13th (accepting 12th-14th). 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
Erland, and Stan. 3 for Pete and Peter.
> C. Balloons
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
1978 (accepting 1973-83) -- Abruzzo, Anderson, and Newman in the
Double Eagle II. 4 for Marc and Joshua. 2 for Pete and Rob.
The people who guessed dates in the 1930s were perhaps confusing
a balloon (unpowered) with a dirigible (powered).
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
1999 (accepting 1997-2001) -- Piccard and Jones in the Breitling
Orbiter 3. 3 for Pete. 2 for Dan Blum and Rob.
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a gas-filled balloon, within 10 years?
1783 (accepting 1773-93).
The inventor -- Jacques Charles, who Charles's Law is named after --
heard about the Mongolfiers' balloon when they demonstrated it some
months before the manned flight. Charles initially assumed that they
must be using hydrogen, and attempted to reproduce what they'd done.
As both methods turned out to be equally workable, his balloon made
its first untethered manned flight just 10 days after theirs.
Ironically, the Montgolfiers had actually assumed that there must
be a lighter-than-air gas in the products of combustion. So the
inventors of the hot-air balloon did not know they were inventing
the hot-air balloon, and the inventor of the gas-filled balloon did
not know he was inventing the gas-filled balloon.
> D. Names for Wars
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
Great Patriotic War. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland,
Pete, and Stan.
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
The Great War. 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Pete,
Peter, Rob, and Calvin. 2 for Stan.
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
French and Indian War. 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
Pete, and Stan.
> E. Popes
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
XX. 4 for Joshua and Stan.
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
Gregory. 4 for Dan Tilque and Stan.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Urban (II). 3 for Joshua and Calvin.
Scores, if there are no errors:
ROUNDS-> 2 3 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Sci His
Joshua Kreitzer 43 46 89
Dan Blum 51 33 84
Dan Tilque 47 36 83
Stan Brown 39 38 77
Rob Parker 56 18 74
Peter Smyth 43 21 64
Marc Dashevsky 44 16 60
Pete Gayde 28 28 56
Erland Sommarskog 27 20 47
"Calvin" 31 15 46
Jeff Turner 42 -- 42
Joachim Parsch 32 -- 32
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Speaking of which... "I don't know whose software is broken, but
it definitely is not ours!" -- Henry Spencer
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2011-04-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2011-09-22 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
Sorry about the incorrect Subject line on the original posting
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI11, QFTCIMM)".
for the round.
> I wrote 2 triples in this round and one question in another triple.
> * Final, Round 3 - History
> A. British Royals: How Many?
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
and Dan Blum.
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
Queen Victoria and was her uncle -- but, as some entrants noted,
William IV was actually King of the UK rather than of England.
This is particularly annoying considering that the next question
hinged on the same issue and neither I nor the author of this triple
considered the point. I'm accepting either 3 or 4. 4 for Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, Stan, Peter, Rob, and Calvin.
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, and Stan. 3 for Rob. 2 for Peter.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
the first 10 amendments that were ratified (the ones now collectively
called as the Bill of Rights). 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Stan,
and Peter.
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
Erland, and Stan. 3 for Pete and Peter.
> C. Balloons
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
Double Eagle II. 4 for Marc and Joshua. 2 for Pete and Rob.
The people who guessed dates in the 1930s were perhaps confusing
a balloon (unpowered) with a dirigible (powered).
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
Orbiter 3. 3 for Pete. 2 for Dan Blum and Rob.
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
1783 (accepting 1773-93).
The inventor -- Jacques Charles, who Charles's Law is named after --
heard about the Mongolfiers' balloon when they demonstrated it some
months before the manned flight. Charles initially assumed that they
must be using hydrogen, and attempted to reproduce what they'd done.
As both methods turned out to be equally workable, his balloon made
its first untethered manned flight just 10 days after theirs.
Ironically, the Montgolfiers had actually assumed that there must
be a lighter-than-air gas in the products of combustion. So the
inventors of the hot-air balloon did not know they were inventing
the hot-air balloon, and the inventor of the gas-filled balloon did
not know he was inventing the gas-filled balloon.
> D. Names for Wars
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
Pete, and Stan.
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
Peter, Rob, and Calvin. 2 for Stan.
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
Pete, and Stan.
> E. Popes
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
Scores, if there are no errors:
ROUNDS-> 2 3 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Sci His
Joshua Kreitzer 43 46 89
Dan Blum 51 33 84
Dan Tilque 47 36 83
Stan Brown 39 38 77
Rob Parker 56 18 74
Peter Smyth 43 21 64
Marc Dashevsky 44 16 60
Pete Gayde 28 28 56
Erland Sommarskog 27 20 47
"Calvin" 31 15 46
Jeff Turner 42 -- 42
Joachim Parsch 32 -- 32
--
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... being sysadmin of such a central node involves a lot less
hassle and frustration when I can confidently say, "I don't know
whose software is broken, but it definitely is not ours."
Speaking of which... "I don't know whose software is broken, but
it definitely is not ours!" -- Henry Spencer
Dan Tilque
Nov 21, 2011, 11:32:36 PM11/21/11
to
Mark Brader wrote:
>
>> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
>> England?
>
> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
> and Dan Blum.
I just want to point out that my answer is technically correct. None of
>
>> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
>> England?
>
> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
> and Dan Blum.
Henry VIII's wives were actually Queen of England, although they are
commonly referred to as such. They're actually titled Queen Consort of
England, but everyone drops the "Consort" in everyday use.
The title Queen of England is technically reserved for queens who were
monarchs. The first Queen of England was Mary I (Bloody Mary), Henry
VIII's daughter. It should have been Matilda, daughter of Henry I, but
the nobles at the time (12th century) could not handle the idea of a
woman monarch, so they went with Stephen. That caused a war, of course.
Eventually it was settled by Stephen making Matilda's son Henry his
heir, so I suppose Matilda won.
>
>> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
>
> The intended answer was 4 -- the last one immediately preceded
> Queen Victoria and was her uncle -- but, as some entrants noted,
> William IV was actually King of the UK rather than of England.
> This is particularly annoying considering that the next question
> hinged on the same issue and neither I nor the author of this triple
> considered the point. I'm accepting either 3 or 4. 4 for Joshua,
> Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, Stan, Peter, Rob, and Calvin.
>
>> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>
> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
question. James II (and VII) was king before the Act of Union (1707) was
passed. That act, which united England and Scotland into Great Britain,
was passed during Queen Anne's reign. Anne was James II's daughter.
Mark Brader
Nov 21, 2011, 11:54:30 PM11/21/11
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Mark Brader:
> The title Queen of England is technically reserved for queens who were
> monarchs. The first Queen of England was Mary I (Bloody Mary), Henry
> VIII's daughter. It should have been Matilda, daughter of Henry I, but
> the nobles at the time (12th century) could not handle the idea of a
> woman monarch, so they went with Stephen. That caused a war, of course.
And I see you're taking sides in that war. :-)
> Eventually it was settled by Stephen making Matilda's son Henry his
> heir, so I suppose Matilda won.
I'd say it was a tie; they shared the disputed rights.
>>> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
>>
>> The intended answer was 4 -- the last one immediately preceded
>> Queen Victoria and was her uncle -- but, as some entrants noted,
>> William IV was actually King of the UK rather than of England.
>> This is particularly annoying considering that the next question
>> hinged on the same issue and neither I nor the author of this triple
>> considered the point. I'm accepting either 3 or 4. 4 for Joshua,
>> Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, Stan, Peter, Rob, and Calvin.
>>
>>> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>>
>> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
>> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
>> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
>> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
>> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>
> I'm not sure why accepting 6 is being consistent with the previous
> question.
It's consistent with allowing answers based on kings who reigned in
both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
always insist on full precision in these things.
If I'd thought about the issue beforehand, I would've made the
questions more precise or added hints or something.
--
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m...@vex.net that's just as good." -- D Gary Grady
>>> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
>>> England?
>>
>> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
>> and Dan Blum.
Dan Tilque:
>>> England?
>>
>> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
>> and Dan Blum.
> I just want to point out that my answer is technically correct. None of
> Henry VIII's wives were actually Queen of England, although they are
> commonly referred to as such. They're actually titled Queen Consort of
> England, but everyone drops the "Consort" in everyday use.
If so, please prove it by references to a definitive source.
> Henry VIII's wives were actually Queen of England, although they are
> commonly referred to as such. They're actually titled Queen Consort of
> England, but everyone drops the "Consort" in everyday use.
> The title Queen of England is technically reserved for queens who were
> monarchs. The first Queen of England was Mary I (Bloody Mary), Henry
> VIII's daughter. It should have been Matilda, daughter of Henry I, but
> the nobles at the time (12th century) could not handle the idea of a
> woman monarch, so they went with Stephen. That caused a war, of course.
> Eventually it was settled by Stephen making Matilda's son Henry his
> heir, so I suppose Matilda won.
>>> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
>>
>> The intended answer was 4 -- the last one immediately preceded
>> Queen Victoria and was her uncle -- but, as some entrants noted,
>> William IV was actually King of the UK rather than of England.
>> This is particularly annoying considering that the next question
>> hinged on the same issue and neither I nor the author of this triple
>> considered the point. I'm accepting either 3 or 4. 4 for Joshua,
>> Dan Tilque, Dan Blum, Erland, Pete, Stan, Peter, Rob, and Calvin.
>>
>>> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>>
>> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
>> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
>> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
>> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
>> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>
> I'm not sure why accepting 6 is being consistent with the previous
> question.
both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
always insist on full precision in these things.
If I'd thought about the issue beforehand, I would've made the
questions more precise or added hints or something.
--
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m...@vex.net that's just as good." -- D Gary Grady
Dan Tilque
Nov 22, 2011, 4:14:26 AM11/22/11
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Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
>>>> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
>>>> England?
>>> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
>>> and Dan Blum.
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> I just want to point out that my answer is technically correct. None of
>> Henry VIII's wives were actually Queen of England, although they are
>> commonly referred to as such. They're actually titled Queen Consort of
>> England, but everyone drops the "Consort" in everyday use.
>
> If so, please prove it by references to a definitive source.
I've been unable to come up with one on my own, but I've asked in
> Mark Brader:
>>>> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
>>>> England?
>>> 2. (Katherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn.) 4 for Pete. 3 for Joshua
>>> and Dan Blum.
>
> Dan Tilque:
>> I just want to point out that my answer is technically correct. None of
>> Henry VIII's wives were actually Queen of England, although they are
>> commonly referred to as such. They're actually titled Queen Consort of
>> England, but everyone drops the "Consort" in everyday use.
>
> If so, please prove it by references to a definitive source.
another forum for help. If you want, you can follow the discussion here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=632264
>
>> The first Queen of England was Mary I (Bloody Mary), Henry
>> VIII's daughter. It should have been Matilda, daughter of Henry I, but
>> the nobles at the time (12th century) could not handle the idea of a
>> woman monarch, so they went with Stephen. That caused a war, of course.
>
> And I see you're taking sides in that war. :-)
he promised Henry he'd accept her as queen.
>
>> Eventually it was settled by Stephen making Matilda's son Henry his
>> heir, so I suppose Matilda won.
>
> I'd say it was a tie; they shared the disputed rights.
Sounds like a win for her, at least in the long run.
>
> It's consistent with allowing answers based on kings who reigned in
> both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
> the more important kingdom.
(note the capitalization).
Stan Brown
Nov 22, 2011, 6:46:13 AM11/22/11
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:16:14 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
> > A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>
> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>
How could 6 be correct? James VI and VII of Scotland were both King
> > A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>
> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>
of England as well, but this was before the first Act of Union so
they held two separate crowns. This isn't like the William IV case.
I don't understand on what basis "6" could be a correct answer to the
question.
Stan Brown
Nov 22, 2011, 6:50:34 AM11/22/11
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:54:30 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
> It's consistent with allowing answers based on kings who reigned in
> both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
> the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
> perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
> always insist on full precision in these things.
Mark, I'm sorry but I have to disagree on this one. James VI/I and
> It's consistent with allowing answers based on kings who reigned in
> both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
> the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
> perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
> always insist on full precision in these things.
VII/II held exactly the same crowns. Either both must be denominated
"Kings of Scotland", or neither. Unless I'm missing something,
there's no logical basis for including one of them in the answer but
excluding the other.
Mark Brader
Nov 22, 2011, 10:31:30 AM11/22/11
to
Mark Brader:
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> > It's consistent with allowing answers based on kings who reigned in
> > both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
> > the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
> > perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
> > always insist on full precision in these things.
Stan Brown:
> > both England and Scotland being treated simply as kings of England,
> > the more important kingdom. The point is, nobody except pedants and
> > perhaps Scots refers to the last James as James VII, and we don't
> > always insist on full precision in these things.
> Mark, I'm sorry but I have to disagree on this one. James VI/I and
> VII/II held exactly the same crowns. Either both must be denominated
> "Kings of Scotland", or neither. Unless I'm missing something,
> there's no logical basis for including one of them in the answer but
> excluding the other.
Logical or not, I'm allowing the answer 6 on this one.
> VII/II held exactly the same crowns. Either both must be denominated
> "Kings of Scotland", or neither. Unless I'm missing something,
> there's no logical basis for including one of them in the answer but
> excluding the other.
--
Mark Brader "To err is human, but to really mess things up
Toronto you need a timetable planner!"
m...@vex.net -- Richard Porter
Jeffrey Turner
Nov 22, 2011, 3:31:49 PM11/22/11
to
On 11/18/2011 7:45 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
Three
>
>
> * Final, Round 3 - History
>
> A. British Royals: How Many?
>
> In these questions we are only considering events after the Norman
> Conquest, and references to the name of a monarch mean the regnal
> name, like "George" for King George VI.
>
> A1. How many wives of Henry VIII were crowned Queen of
> England?
> A2. How many Kings of England were named William?
> A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
> B. US Constitutional Amendments
>
> There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution since it was
> originally adopted. We're asking about three of them.
>
> B1. The constitution originally specified that "The Senate of
> the United States shall be composed of two Senators
> from each State, *chosen by the Legislature* thereof".
> Now it says "two Senators from each State, *elected by
> the people* thereof". Either tell what number amendment
> made this change, within 1 -- or else what year it was
> ratified, within 10.
> B2. The 27th and latest amendment was ratified in 1992
> and reads in full: "No law, varying the compensation
> for the services of the Senators and Representatives,
> shall take effect, until an election of representatives
> shall have intervened." What was unusual about the
> ratification process for this amendment?
>
> B3. Which amendment, ratified in 1865, declared that
> "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been
> duly convicted, shall exist within the United States"?
> Give the amendment number within 1.
> C. Balloons
>
> C1. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight across the Atlantic Ocean take place,
> within 5?
>
> C2. In what year did the first successful manned non-stop
> balloon flight around the world take place, within 2?
>
> C3. Last week we mentioned the first untethered manned flight
> of a balloon, invented by the Montgolfier brothers.
> That was in 1783 and they used a hot-air balloon.
> But balloons can also use a lighter-than-air gas, such
> as helium. When was the first untethered manned flight
> of a *gas-filled* balloon, within 10 years?
>
>
> D. Names for Wars
>
> D1. In most countries the war between Germany and the Soviet
> Union from 1941 to 1945 is considered part of World War
> II, but to the Russians it has its own name. In English,
> what is that?
> D2. Before World War II happened, what name was most often
> used in English for what we now call World War I?
> D3. The war that resulted in Britain's acquisition of Canada
> is known as the Seven Years' War in most English-speaking
> countries. What other name, referring particularly to
> the North American part of the war, is more commonly
> used in the US?
> E. Popes
>
> E1. The name most frequently used by a pope is John. There
> have been 22 of them, from John the First to John the...
> 23rd! Which number between I and XXIII was inadvertently
> skipped over?
> E2. After John, there is a tie for the second-most-frequently
> used name. One of them is Benedict, as in the current
> Pope, Benedict XVI. Give the other papal name with
> 16 holders. Incidentally, each name was used by two
> antipopes, so they're still tied even if you count those.
> E3. Which pope's preaching started the First Crusade in 1095?
> You don't need to give his number, just the name.
--Jeff
Mark Brader
Nov 22, 2011, 4:24:20 PM11/22/11
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If Jeff had posted his answers on time, he would have had 16 points
for this round.
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for this round.
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Toronto | There hadn't been a city lost in more than five years."
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Calvin
Nov 22, 2011, 7:16:14 PM11/22/11
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:46:13 +1000, Stan Brown
<the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:16:14 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>> > A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>>
>> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
>> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
>> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
>> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
>> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>>
>
> How could 6 be correct? James VI and VII of Scotland were both King
> of England as well, but this was before the first Act of Union so
> they held two separate crowns. This isn't like the William IV case.
>
> I don't understand on what basis "6" could be a correct answer to the
> question.
Because the question could be interpreted as "How many Kings of Scotland
<the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:16:14 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>> > A3. How many Kings of Scotland were named James?
>>
>> 7. The intended answer was 7 -- the last two were also James I
>> and II of England, before the Act of Union combined the two crowns
>> into one position -- but to be consistent with the previous question
>> I'm accepting either 6 or 7. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
>> Erland, Stan, Peter, and Calvin. 3 for Rob.
>>
>
> How could 6 be correct? James VI and VII of Scotland were both King
> of England as well, but this was before the first Act of Union so
> they held two separate crowns. This isn't like the William IV case.
>
> I don't understand on what basis "6" could be a correct answer to the
> question.
*and only Scotland* were named James?" That makes just as much sense as
"How many Kings of Scotland *and both Scotland and England* were named
James"?
I would have scored it the same as Mark, allowing either answer.
--
cheers,
calvin
Dan Tilque
Nov 22, 2011, 10:05:41 PM11/22/11
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Dan Tilque wrote:
>
> I've been unable to come up with one on my own, but I've asked in
> another forum for help.
Based on the replies I got there, it looks like I am wrong.
>
> I've been unable to come up with one on my own, but I've asked in
> another forum for help.
--
Dan Tilque
Mark Brader
Nov 22, 2011, 11:11:47 PM11/22/11
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Stan Brown:
reluctantly.
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> > I don't understand on what basis "6" could be a correct answer to the
> > question.
"Calvin":
> > question.
> Because the question could be interpreted as "How many Kings of Scotland
> *and only Scotland* were named James?" That makes just as much sense as
> "How many Kings of Scotland *and both Scotland and England* were named
> James"?
>
> I would have scored it the same as Mark, allowing either answer.
Yeah, but you're too generous with this sort of thing. I only did it
> *and only Scotland* were named James?" That makes just as much sense as
> "How many Kings of Scotland *and both Scotland and England* were named
> James"?
>
> I would have scored it the same as Mark, allowing either answer.
reluctantly.
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Toronto | pregnancy can harm your baby." (City of Toronto
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Stan Brown
Nov 24, 2011, 9:11:58 AM11/24/11
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be wrong -- that's my point. I could understand if Mark accepted 5
and 7, but I can't see any justification at all for 6.
It's Mark's quiz and he can score it how he likes, I guess.
Mark Brader
Nov 24, 2011, 11:34:16 AM11/24/11
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"Calvin":
> But in that case the answer would be 5...
No, because James VI/I was King of Scotland *first*. And incidentally,
*he* treated the English throne as the more important position:
# On 24 March 1603 James achieved his lifelong ambition when Queen
# Elizabeth I died and he inherited the throne of England. He moved
# south immediately, and would have liked his two kingdoms to be
# completely united. However, Scotland retained its own parliament,
# established Church and legal and educational systems.
#
# James enjoyed the pomp and circumstance of the English court,
# and returned to Scotland only once, in 1617.
Source: http://www.royal.gov.uk/historyofthemonarchy/scottish%20monarchs%28400ad-1603%29/thestewarts/jamesviandi.aspx
"sci fi: the plural of scum fum" -- Spider Robinson
> > Because the question could be interpreted as "How many Kings of Scotland
> > *and only Scotland* were named James?" That makes just as much sense as
> > "How many Kings of Scotland *and both Scotland and England* were named
> > James"?
Stan Brown:
> > *and only Scotland* were named James?" That makes just as much sense as
> > "How many Kings of Scotland *and both Scotland and England* were named
> > James"?
> But in that case the answer would be 5...
No, because James VI/I was King of Scotland *first*. And incidentally,
*he* treated the English throne as the more important position:
# On 24 March 1603 James achieved his lifelong ambition when Queen
# Elizabeth I died and he inherited the throne of England. He moved
# south immediately, and would have liked his two kingdoms to be
# completely united. However, Scotland retained its own parliament,
# established Church and legal and educational systems.
#
# James enjoyed the pomp and circumstance of the English court,
# and returned to Scotland only once, in 1617.
Source: http://www.royal.gov.uk/historyofthemonarchy/scottish%20monarchs%28400ad-1603%29/thestewarts/jamesviandi.aspx
"sci fi: the plural of scum fum" -- Spider Robinson
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