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QFTCI16 Final, Round 6: Sports
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Mark Brader
Nov 10, 2016, 12:13:52 AM11/10/16
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-08-09,
and should be interpreted accordingly.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
I wrote two triples in this round.
** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
* A. Early Rule Books
The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
the game or sport.
A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
without trumps."
A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
game.
A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
side of the tree."
* B. Card Games
B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
points, what has he or she achieved?
* C. What is this Sport?
In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
* D. Canadian Sportscasters
D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
Marlins.
D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
* E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
had previously been there in the 1920s?
E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
win the Grey Cup?
E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
New York Knickerbockers?
* F. Modern Board Games
F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
maintaining their own state of health.
F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
to work together to find cures.
--
Mark Brader | "I'm here to give you the whole truth. All printed
Toronto | dictionaries of English are wrong. ... Deal with it."
m...@vex.net | --Geoffrey K. Pullum
My text in this article is in the public domain.
and should be interpreted accordingly.
On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.
All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
I wrote two triples in this round.
** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
* A. Early Rule Books
The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
the game or sport.
A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
without trumps."
A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
game.
A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
side of the tree."
* B. Card Games
B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
points, what has he or she achieved?
* C. What is this Sport?
In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
* D. Canadian Sportscasters
D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
Marlins.
D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
* E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
had previously been there in the 1920s?
E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
win the Grey Cup?
E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
New York Knickerbockers?
* F. Modern Board Games
F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
maintaining their own state of health.
F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
to work together to find cures.
--
Mark Brader | "I'm here to give you the whole truth. All printed
Toronto | dictionaries of English are wrong. ... Deal with it."
m...@vex.net | --Geoffrey K. Pullum
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Joshua Kreitzer
Nov 10, 2016, 8:34:06 AM11/10/16
to
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:48ednfggROOXn7nFnZ2dnUU7-
dPN...@giganews.com:
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
golf
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
Otis Elevator
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
team handball
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
lacrosse
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
>
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
Don Cherry
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
dPN...@giganews.com:
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
baseball
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
>
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Marc Dashevsky
Nov 10, 2016, 8:56:44 AM11/10/16
to
In article <48ednfggROOXn7nF...@giganews.com>, m...@vex.net says...
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
vulnerable
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
skunk
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
handball
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
>
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
>
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
>
>
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
Black Widow
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
>
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
>
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
>
>
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
Björn Lundin
Nov 10, 2016, 11:23:18 AM11/10/16
to
On 2016-11-10 06:13, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-08-09,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote two triples in this round.
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-08-09,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote two triples in this round.
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
>
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
Handball
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
>
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
>
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
>
>
--
--
Björn
Peter Smyth
Nov 10, 2016, 12:03:58 PM11/10/16
to
Mark Brader wrote:
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
Whist
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
Baseball
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
Golf
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
>
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
Otis Elevator
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
Vulnerable
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
>
>
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
Handball
> points, what has he or she achieved?
>
>
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
Australian Rules Football
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
Hurling
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
Peter Smyth
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
Pete
Nov 10, 2016, 1:42:36 PM11/10/16
to
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-08-09,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote two triples in this round.
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
Bridge
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> I wrote two triples in this round.
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
>
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
>
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
>
>
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
>
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
>
>
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
>
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
>
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
>
>
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
>
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
>
> D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
> he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
> practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
> Marlins.
>
> D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
> and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
> of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
>
>
> * E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
>
> Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
>
> E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
> in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
> them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
> the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
> had previously been there in the 1920s?
>
> E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
> win the Grey Cup?
>
> E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
> hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
> of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
> New York Knickerbockers?
>
>
> * F. Modern Board Games
>
> F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
> to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
> as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
> certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
> to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
> maintaining their own state of health.
>
> F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
> John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
> play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
>
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
>
Erland Sommarskog
Nov 10, 2016, 1:48:24 PM11/10/16
to
Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
Golf
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
>
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
Rugby
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
Gareth Owen
Nov 10, 2016, 1:53:28 PM11/10/16
to
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
Bridge presumably
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
>
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
> D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
> he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
> practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
> Marlins.
> D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
> and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
> of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
> * E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
>
> Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
>
> E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
> in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
> them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
> the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
> had previously been there in the 1920s?
> E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
> win the Grey Cup?
> E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
> hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
> of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
> New York Knickerbockers?
> * F. Modern Board Games
>
> F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
> to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
> as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
> certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
> to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
> maintaining their own state of health.
> F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
> John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
> play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
Dan Tilque
Nov 10, 2016, 3:29:41 PM11/10/16
to
Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
bridge
>
>
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
>
> * A. Early Rule Books
>
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
>
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
>
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
>
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
>
>
> * B. Card Games
>
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
>
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
>
>
> * C. What is this Sport?
>
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
>
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
>
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
>
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
>
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
--
Dan Tilque
Dan Blum
Nov 11, 2016, 12:01:12 AM11/11/16
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> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
Bridge
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
(technically probably an ancestor of Bridge)
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
> * B. Card Games
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
(or at least the only card game I know of with that name is a non-solitaire
game by Sid Sackson)
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
> * C. What is this Sport?
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
rugby
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
> * F. Modern Board Games
> F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
> to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
> as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
> certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
> to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
> maintaining their own state of health.
> F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
> John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
> play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Mark Brader
Nov 13, 2016, 2:40:55 AM11/13/16
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Mark Brader:
This was the easiest round in the original game.
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
> * A. Early Rule Books
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
"Biritch, or Russian whist" is what it's called in that rule book.
Today we spell it "bridge". I'm accepting any of those, but not
plain "whist", which did not have any declaring. ("Biritch" means
notrump.) 4 for Pete, Gareth (presumably), Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
Base ball. Today we spell it "baseball". ("Aces" means runs,
and "hands" appears to mean half-innings in the first quoted rule
but players in the second one.) 4 for Joshua, Peter, Gareth,
and Dan Tilque.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
Football as played as Rugby school. Today we call it "rugby".
("Tree" means tree. There were trees on the playing field!)
4 for Dan Tilque.
> * B. Card Games
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
Otis Elevator (a form of poker) was the expected answer, but one
entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
3 for Pete.
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
Vulnerable. 4 for Marc, Peter, Pete, Erland, Gareth, Dan Tilque,
and Dan Blum.
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
Skunk (among other terms). 4 for Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque,
and Dan Blum. 3 for Gareth.
I found multiple sources confirming that the cribbage scoreboard may
be considered as divided into a succession of 30-point"streets",
but no references to winning "by a street", which logically would
mean winning by 30 or more. I decided to score that answer as
"almost correct".
> * C. What is this Sport?
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
(Team) handball. 4 for Joshua, Marc, Björn, Peter, Pete, Erland,
Gareth, and Dan Tilque.
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
Australian ("Aussie rules") football. 4 for Peter, Pete, and Gareth.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
Hurling. (Played principally in Ireland, on the same field used
for Gaelic football.) 4 for Peter, Gareth, and Dan Tilque.
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
Bob Cole.
> D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
> he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
> practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
> Marlins.
Dave Van Horne.
> D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
> and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
> of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
Perdita Felicien.
> * E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
> Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
> E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
> in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
> them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
> the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
> had previously been there in the 1920s?
Hamilton Tigers (as you will remember from Game 7, Round 7).
> E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
> win the Grey Cup?
Baltimore Stallions. (In 1995. The CFL only had teams in the US for
2 years, 1994-95. When the NHL tried it, it lasted somewhat longer.)
> E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
> hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
> of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
> New York Knickerbockers?
Toronto Huskies.
> * F. Modern Board Games
> F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
> to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
> as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
> certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
> to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
> maintaining their own state of health.
King of Tokyo (or King of New York). 4 for Dan Blum.
> F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
> John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
> play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
Twilight Struggle. 4 for Dan Blum.
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
Pandemic. 4 for Gareth and Dan Blum.
Scores, if there are no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Gareth Owen 44 -- 46 31 121
Dan Tilque 16 56 20 28 120
Marc Dashevsky 48 24 32 12 116
Pete Gayde 43 34 16 23 116
Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
Mark Brader "...living through a coup involves a lot of
Toronto sitting around refreshing web pages."
m...@vex.net --Harriet Boulding
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-08-09,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
> I wrote two triples in this round.
A and C.
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
> I wrote two triples in this round.
This was the easiest round in the original game.
> ** Final, Round 6 -- Sports & Leisure
> * A. Early Rule Books
> The three passages in this triple are taken from early rule books
> and may refer to games rather than sports. In each case, name
> the game or sport.
> A1. "In either case of the dealer or his partner declaring,
> the one declaring may, instead of declaring trumps, say
> 'biritch', which means that the hands shall be played
> without trumps."
Today we spell it "bridge". I'm accepting any of those, but not
plain "whist", which did not have any declaring. ("Biritch" means
notrump.) 4 for Pete, Gareth (presumably), Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.
> A2. "The game to consist of twenty-one counts, or aces; but at
> the conclusion an equal number of hands must be played";
> also, "Three hands out, all out." Hint: it's not a card
> game.
and "hands" appears to mean half-innings in the first quoted rule
but players in the second one.) 4 for Joshua, Peter, Gareth,
and Dan Tilque.
> A3. "A player having touched the ball straight for a tree, and
> touched the tree with it, may drop from either side if he
> can, but the opposite side may oblige him to go to his own
> side of the tree."
("Tree" means tree. There were trees on the playing field!)
4 for Dan Tilque.
> * B. Card Games
> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
3 for Pete.
> B2. If a side has won a game in a current rubber of bridge,
> it is then said to be what (aside from happy, presumably)?
and Dan Blum.
> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
> points, what has he or she achieved?
and Dan Blum. 3 for Gareth.
I found multiple sources confirming that the cribbage scoreboard may
be considered as divided into a succession of 30-point"streets",
but no references to winning "by a street", which logically would
mean winning by 30 or more. I decided to score that answer as
"almost correct".
> * C. What is this Sport?
> In each case, name the sport being played in the picture.
> C1. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c1.jpg
Gareth, and Dan Tilque.
> C2. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c2.jpg
> The ball is yellow; look near the posts.
> C3. See: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/f-6/what/c3.jpg
> The ball is white; look to the left of the man in the
> yellow helmet, in front of another player's leg.
for Gaelic football.) 4 for Peter, Gareth, and Dan Tilque.
> * D. Canadian Sportscasters
> D1. Back in the 1970, when your humble question-setter did
> battle on it, *this guy* was the quizmaster of the then-CBC
> show "Reach for the Top" in Newfoundland. But then he was
> somehow lured away from that plum gig by a long-lasting
> stint with "Hockey Night in Canada". Name him.
> D2. Okay, this broadcaster is actually an American; but since
> he was the voice of the Montreal Expos for 32 years, he's
> practically one of us. He currently works for the Miami
> Marlins.
> D3. This former hurdler went into broadcasting after retirement
> and worked the 2015 Pan Am Games in Toronto. She is part
> of CBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics.
> * E. Defunct Pro Sports Teams
> Full names are required, e.g. "Toronto Maple Leafs".
> E1. When Research in Motion chairman Jim Balsillie was rumored
> in 2007 to be purchasing the Nashville Predators and moving
> them to a particular Canadian city, many fans were hoping
> the team would be renamed after which former NHL club that
> had previously been there in the 1920s?
> E2. Which was the first, and so far the only, US-based team to
> win the Grey Cup?
2 years, 1994-95. When the NHL tried it, it lasted somewhat longer.)
> E3. Lasting only one season, which Canadian team in 1946
> hosted the first-ever game of the Basketball Association
> of America (forerunner to the NBA), losing 68-66 to the
> New York Knickerbockers?
> * F. Modern Board Games
> F1. In this game, whose first version was released in 2011, up
> to 6 players can each adopt the avatar of a monster, who,
> as the game progresses, can be either inside or outside a
> certain city. Players roll dice and pick cards in order
> to be able to attack other players, while at the same time
> maintaining their own state of health.
> F2. This 2-player strategy game takes its name from a quote by
> John F. Kennedy. Players represent the US and USSR and
> play out scenarios based on the post-WW2 era.
> F3. This cooperative board "game" was released in 2007 and
> models a scenario where four diseases have broken out and
> the players take the roles of medical specialists who have
> to work together to find cures.
Scores, if there are no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Gareth Owen 44 -- 46 31 121
Dan Tilque 16 56 20 28 120
Marc Dashevsky 48 24 32 12 116
Pete Gayde 43 34 16 23 116
Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
Mark Brader "...living through a coup involves a lot of
Toronto sitting around refreshing web pages."
m...@vex.net --Harriet Boulding
Gareth Owen
Nov 13, 2016, 3:08:02 AM11/13/16
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
>> * B. Card Games
>
>> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
>> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
>> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>
> Otis Elevator (a form of poker) was the expected answer, but one
> entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
> so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
> 3 for Pete.
Black Widow (and other less polite variations) are alternative names for
>> * B. Card Games
>
>> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
>> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
>> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>
> Otis Elevator (a form of poker) was the expected answer, but one
> entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
> so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
> 3 for Pete.
what MS Windows calls "Hearts".
http://whiteknucklecards.com/games/blackmaria.html
My father taught me the game as "Black Bitch", but that's fathers for you.
>> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
>> points, what has he or she achieved?
>
> Skunk (among other terms). 4 for Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque,
> and Dan Blum. 3 for Gareth.
>
> I found multiple sources confirming that the cribbage scoreboard may
> be considered as divided into a succession of 30-point"streets",
> but no references to winning "by a street", which logically would
> mean winning by 30 or more. I decided to score that answer as
> "almost correct".
If the opponent is still in the third street (61-90 points), the margin
would be 31+.
I'd always understood the phrases "winning by a street" (which is not
uncommon in the UK) and "streets ahead" both came from cribbage.
The evidenve for this seems pretty tenuous though.
http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/win-by-a-street.2495240/
[0] 120 points leaves you "in the hole", where some regional variations
impose weird rules on you.
Gareth Owen
Nov 13, 2016, 3:18:56 AM11/13/16
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Gareth Owen <gwo...@gmail.com> writes:
> I'd always understood the phrases "winning by a street" (which is not
> uncommon in the UK) and "streets ahead" both came from cribbage.
> The evidenve for this seems pretty tenuous though.
I have a poorly baby sleeping on me with only this laptop within reach,
> I'd always understood the phrases "winning by a street" (which is not
> uncommon in the UK) and "streets ahead" both came from cribbage.
> The evidenve for this seems pretty tenuous though.
so I've gone totally down the rabbit-hole on this. Here's a story about
the show-runner of NBC's "Community" trying to introduce "Streets ahead"
into American English...
https://britishisms.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/streets-ahead/
Mark Brader
Nov 13, 2016, 4:38:47 AM11/13/16
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Mark Brader:
it on a search like "black widow" "card game", so I assumed it was a
guess.
4 for Joshua, *Marc*, Marc, Peter, *Gareth*, and Dan Blum. 3 for Pete.
> My father taught me the game as "Black Bitch", but that's fathers for you.
I'm reminded of one time I was on a train in Europe and saw some young
people playing a card game I didn't recognize. I asked what it was and
they seemed very embarrassed and then said "President". And I realized
it was the game I'd heard called "The President and the Asshole".
(This, too, has many variations in its name.)
>>> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
>>> points, what has he or she achieved?
>>
>> Skunk (among other terms). 4 for Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque,
>> and Dan Blum. 3 for Gareth.
>>
>> I found multiple sources confirming that the cribbage scoreboard may
>> be considered as divided into a succession of 30-point"streets",
>> but no references to winning "by a street", which logically would
>> mean winning by 30 or more. I decided to score that answer as
>> "almost correct".
>
> A winning score is 121, as you need to peg out of the final street[0].
> If the opponent is still in the third street (61-90 points), the margin
> would be 31+.
As I said. But you've glossed "winning by a street" as "opponent is
still in the third street when you're off the fourth". That looks to
me like "winning by more than a street". I suggest that 121-91 should
logically still be "winning by a street".
I tried this Google search:
cribbage "win|won|winning by a street"
There were a handful of hits, only three of which gave specific meanings.
One said it's winning by at least 30, one said they thought it was 30.
The third said that players "in the same street" are no more than 30
apart, and to "win by a street" is to win by more than 30; and since
the first part of the sentence is off by 1, I think the second is too.
Pending additional evidence (and after reading several sets of rules
of cribbage online), I stand by my ruling. Do *you* think I should
have given full points?
Scores, if there there are now no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Gareth Owen 44 -- 46 35 125
Toronto | round your neck, or else you hang them by the neck."
m...@vex.net | --Rob Bannister
>>> * B. Card Games
>>
>>> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
>>> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
>>> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>>
>> Otis Elevator (a form of poker) was the expected answer, but one
>> entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
>> so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
>> 3 for Pete.
Gareth Owen:
>>
>>> B1. Which one of the following is not a form of solitaire?
>>> Black Widow, Captive Queens, Flower Garden, Idiot's Delight,
>>> Osmosis, Otis Elevator, Penguin.
>>
>> Otis Elevator (a form of poker) was the expected answer, but one
>> entrant called attention to a non-solitaire card game called Osmosis,
>> so I accepted that answer also. 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.
>> 3 for Pete.
> Black Widow (and other less polite variations) are alternative names for
> what MS Windows calls "Hearts".
> http://whiteknucklecards.com/games/blackmaria.html
Okay. I knew Black Maria, but not the other name, and I couldn't find
> what MS Windows calls "Hearts".
> http://whiteknucklecards.com/games/blackmaria.html
it on a search like "black widow" "card game", so I assumed it was a
guess.
4 for Joshua, *Marc*, Marc, Peter, *Gareth*, and Dan Blum. 3 for Pete.
> My father taught me the game as "Black Bitch", but that's fathers for you.
people playing a card game I didn't recognize. I asked what it was and
they seemed very embarrassed and then said "President". And I realized
it was the game I'd heard called "The President and the Asshole".
(This, too, has many variations in its name.)
>>> B3. When a player wins at cribbage by a margin of 31 or more
>>> points, what has he or she achieved?
>>
>> Skunk (among other terms). 4 for Marc, Pete, Dan Tilque,
>> and Dan Blum. 3 for Gareth.
>>
>> I found multiple sources confirming that the cribbage scoreboard may
>> be considered as divided into a succession of 30-point"streets",
>> but no references to winning "by a street", which logically would
>> mean winning by 30 or more. I decided to score that answer as
>> "almost correct".
>
> A winning score is 121, as you need to peg out of the final street[0].
> If the opponent is still in the third street (61-90 points), the margin
> would be 31+.
still in the third street when you're off the fourth". That looks to
me like "winning by more than a street". I suggest that 121-91 should
logically still be "winning by a street".
I tried this Google search:
cribbage "win|won|winning by a street"
There were a handful of hits, only three of which gave specific meanings.
One said it's winning by at least 30, one said they thought it was 30.
The third said that players "in the same street" are no more than 30
apart, and to "win by a street" is to win by more than 30; and since
the first part of the sentence is off by 1, I think the second is too.
Pending additional evidence (and after reading several sets of rules
of cribbage online), I stand by my ruling. Do *you* think I should
have given full points?
Scores, if there there are now no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Dan Tilque 16 56 20 28 120
Marc Dashevsky 48 24 32 16 120
Pete Gayde 43 34 16 23 116
Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
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Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
Toronto | round your neck, or else you hang them by the neck."
m...@vex.net | --Rob Bannister
Gareth Owen
Nov 13, 2016, 5:08:13 AM11/13/16
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> cribbage "win|won|winning by a street"
>
> There were a handful of hits, only three of which gave specific meanings.
> One said it's winning by at least 30, one said they thought it was 30.
> The third said that players "in the same street" are no more than 30
> apart, and to "win by a street" is to win by more than 30; and since
> the first part of the sentence is off by 1, I think the second is too.
>
> Pending additional evidence (and after reading several sets of rules
> of cribbage online), I stand by my ruling. Do *you* think I should
> have given full points?
No. Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
> cribbage "win|won|winning by a street"
>
> There were a handful of hits, only three of which gave specific meanings.
> One said it's winning by at least 30, one said they thought it was 30.
> The third said that players "in the same street" are no more than 30
> apart, and to "win by a street" is to win by more than 30; and since
> the first part of the sentence is off by 1, I think the second is too.
>
> Pending additional evidence (and after reading several sets of rules
> of cribbage online), I stand by my ruling. Do *you* think I should
> have given full points?
What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
ii) my college bar
Beyond that, I got nuthin.
FWIW, I've *never* heard it referred to as "skunk", which seems very
common in North American cribbage circles. I have heard that term for
beating someone at 15-ball pool when they have all seven of their balls
left on the table.
Still, far from the most baffling thing about Americans this week.
Mark Brader
Nov 13, 2016, 5:51:31 AM11/13/16
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Gareth Owen:
121-91 win did not count? For example, if I was playing Carcassonne,
where the scores are kept by moving tokens around a 50-point loop,
I'd say I'd won by a lap if I won 130-80; it wouldn't need to be
130-79.
> FWIW, I've *never* heard it referred to as "skunk", which seems very
> common in North American cribbage circles.
The other words I might have expected were "lurch" and "schneider".
> I have heard that term for beating someone at 15-ball pool
I guess you mean 8-ball. (The game where each player "owns" 7 of
the balls, either the stripes or the solid colors -- or in a British
pub, either the reds or the yellows -- and after sinking all of them,
must then sink the black 8-ball.)
> when they have all seven of their balls left on the table.
I haven't, but I've never played that seriously or mixed with people
who do. I think I've heard of "schneider" as an occasional term for
a shutout win in sports, so if "skunk" and "schneider" are synonymous
in one context, it makes sense that they would be in another.
> Still, far from the most baffling thing about Americans this week.
I'm not touching that one with a big-league trump card.
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Toronto | To be free, you must first assume your right
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> Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
> ii) my college bar
But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
> ii) my college bar
121-91 win did not count? For example, if I was playing Carcassonne,
where the scores are kept by moving tokens around a 50-point loop,
I'd say I'd won by a lap if I won 130-80; it wouldn't need to be
130-79.
> FWIW, I've *never* heard it referred to as "skunk", which seems very
> common in North American cribbage circles.
> I have heard that term for beating someone at 15-ball pool
the balls, either the stripes or the solid colors -- or in a British
pub, either the reds or the yellows -- and after sinking all of them,
must then sink the black 8-ball.)
> when they have all seven of their balls left on the table.
who do. I think I've heard of "schneider" as an occasional term for
a shutout win in sports, so if "skunk" and "schneider" are synonymous
in one context, it makes sense that they would be in another.
> Still, far from the most baffling thing about Americans this week.
--
Mark Brader | "How is freedom gained? It is taken: never given.
Toronto | To be free, you must first assume your right
m...@vex.net | to freedom." -- Salman Rushdie
Gareth Owen
Nov 13, 2016, 5:59:26 AM11/13/16
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> Gareth Owen:
>> Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
>
>> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
>> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
>> ii) my college bar
>
> But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
> 121-91 win did not count?
Yes, because someone with 91 points has their lead peg in the first hole
> Gareth Owen:
>> Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
>
>> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
>> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
>> ii) my college bar
>
> But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
> 121-91 win did not count?
of the 4th street. Winning by a street meant both the opponents pegs
are still on the third street. Your logic is correct, but a lead of 31
looks objectivelt different on the physical scoreboard.
>> FWIW, I've *never* heard it referred to as "skunk", which seems very
>> common in North American cribbage circles.
>
> The other words I might have expected were "lurch" and "schneider".
>
>> I have heard that term for beating someone at 15-ball pool
>
> I guess you mean 8-ball. (The game where each player "owns" 7 of
> the balls, either the stripes or the solid colors -- or in a British
> pub, either the reds or the yellows -- and after sinking all of them,
> must then sink the black 8-ball.)
>> Still, far from the most baffling thing about Americans this week.
>
> I'm not touching that one with a big-league trump card.
Joe
Nov 13, 2016, 12:56:05 PM11/13/16
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On 2016-11-13 10:59:25 +0000, Gareth Owen said:
> m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
>
>> Gareth Owen:
>>> Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
>>
>>> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
>>> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
>>> ii) my college bar
>>
>> But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
>> 121-91 win did not count?
>
> Yes, because someone with 91 points has their lead peg in the first hole
> of the 4th street. Winning by a street meant both the opponents pegs
> are still on the third street. Your logic is correct, but a lead of 31
> looks objectivelt different on the physical scoreboard.
>
FWIW playing in a Cribbage League many years ago in Devon and Cornwall
> m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
>
>> Gareth Owen:
>>> Like I said, the evidence is thin. Three points is totally fair.
>>
>>> What I can tell you is that that's what its always been called in
>>> i) pubs around the South Cheshire region
>>> ii) my college bar
>>
>> But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
>> 121-91 win did not count?
>
> Yes, because someone with 91 points has their lead peg in the first hole
> of the 4th street. Winning by a street meant both the opponents pegs
> are still on the third street. Your logic is correct, but a lead of 31
> looks objectivelt different on the physical scoreboard.
>
this is exactly how we referred to a defeat where one side did not get
beyond the third street. 'We won by a street' or 'We got beaten by a
street'. Uttered the latter many a time.
>>> FWIW, I've *never* heard it referred to as "skunk", which seems very
>>> common in North American cribbage circles.
>>
>> The other words I might have expected were "lurch" and "schneider".
>>
>>> I have heard that term for beating someone at 15-ball pool
--
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fucked up.”
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Mark Brader
Nov 13, 2016, 1:30:24 PM11/13/16
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Mark Brader:
> Yes...
4 for Gareth.
Scores, if there are *now* no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Gareth Owen 44 -- 46 36 126
m...@vex.net --seen on a box of cookies
> > But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
> > 121-91 win did not count?
Gareth Owen:
> > 121-91 win did not count?
> Yes...
4 for Gareth.
Scores, if there are *now* no errors:
FINAL ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo Mis Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 44 48 48 12 152
Dan Blum 36 30 36 28 130
Dan Tilque 16 56 20 28 120
Marc Dashevsky 48 24 32 16 120
Pete Gayde 43 34 16 23 116
Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "If disapproval we will drawback."
Marc Dashevsky 48 24 32 16 120
Pete Gayde 43 34 16 23 116
Peter Smyth -- 30 12 24 66
Erland Sommarskog -- 40 -- 8 48
Jason Kreitzer 28 -- 12 -- 40
Björn Lundin 4 20 4 4 32
--
m...@vex.net --seen on a box of cookies
Gareth Owen
Nov 13, 2016, 2:39:58 PM11/13/16
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> Mark Brader:
>> > But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
>> > 121-91 win did not count?
>
> Gareth Owen:
>> Yes...
>
> 4 for Gareth.
Cheers
> Mark Brader:
>> > But in these milieus, would it have been used in such a way that a
>> > 121-91 win did not count?
>
> Gareth Owen:
>> Yes...
>
> 4 for Gareth.
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