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Mark Brader

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Sorry, just realized I forgot to post this when I did the previous
set of answers. It was a difficult day.


These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-10-17,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of the Misplaced Modifiers
and are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers

In each case, name the composer, conductor, or performer.

1. Born in Ottawa in 1958, this pianist is associated mainly
with the music of Bach, but she has also recorded Scarlatti,
Liszt, Fauré, and Debussy. A Companion of the Order of Canada,
she currently lives in London, England.

2. Born in 1938 to immigrant Greek parents, this soprano sang
41 different roles in a 36-year career at the Metropolitan Opera.
Among her many film appearances: Violetta in Zeffirelli's
"La Traviata".

3. Who wrote the *music* for "O Canada"?

4. Who is music director of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra?

5. This American-born violinist has been a Canadian citizen
since 1988. From 1981 to 2014 she was musical director of the
Toronto-based Tafelmusik Baroque Orchestra.

6. This organist/composer who live 1880-1968 described himself as
"English by birth; Canadian by adoption; Irish by extraction;
Scotch by absorption". He wrote more than half a dozen operas
and hundreds of pieces of choral music for St. Mary Magdalene
church in Toronto.

7. This Armenian-Canadian soprano, born in 1974, is the winner of
four consecutive Juno Awards. She can be heard singing
"Evenstar" on the soundtrack of "Lord of the Rings: the Two
Towers". Her numerous opera roles include Cleopatra in the
Canadian Opera Company's production of Handel's "Julius Caesar".

8. In the same COC production, this Canadian countertenor sang
the role of Tolomeo. Born in 1969, he has made more than 100
recordings. The University of Toronto recently appointed him
to the position of Head of Early Music and Professor of Voice.

9. This tenor made over a dozen recordings between 1992 and 2001,
most frequently in Wagnerian roles. He has performed at the
closing ceremonies of two Winter Olympics, and currently works
as a CBC Radio host.

10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
marker.


** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It

Your categories are:

A. Long & Short Musicians
B. Long & Short Wars
C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
D. Long & Short Literature
E. Shortstops
F. Long Lives


* A. Long & Short Musicians

Name them.

A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.


* B. Long & Short Wars

B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
that war?

B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.


* C. Long & Short Oscar Winners

C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.


* D. Long & Short Literature

D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
longest play?

D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
What are the two words?


* E. Shortstops

E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.

E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
Name *any* of them.


* F. Science: Long Lives

F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

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Dan Blum

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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers

> 2. Born in 1938 to immigrant Greek parents, this soprano sang
> 41 different roles in a 36-year career at the Metropolitan Opera.
> Among her many film appearances: Violetta in Zeffirelli's
> "La Traviata".

Maria Callas

> 10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
> than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
> marker.

Glenn Gould

> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It

> * B. Long & Short Wars

> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

six days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Peru

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners

> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Cleopatra; Titanic

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

Kramer vs Kramer; Taxi Driver

> * D. Long & Short Literature

> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

Hamlet

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus wept

> * E. Shortstops

> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

Banks

> * F. Science: Long Lives

> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

moray eel; sturgeon

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

tortoise

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Gareth Owen

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:

> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

Long John Baldry

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Wayne Shorter

> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

Six Days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia?

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Greed. Titanic.

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

Nope

> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

Hamlet

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus Wept

> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.

Francisco Lindor

> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

Derek Jeter

> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

Shark

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Giant Turtle

swp

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Jan 12, 2017, 4:47:02 PM1/12/17
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On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 3:08:10 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
> Sorry, just realized I forgot to post this when I did the previous
> set of answers. It was a difficult day.

sorry to hear that. of course, this could be anything from a death in the family to your wife bidding 4 clubs.

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-10-17,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.

noted

> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers
>
> In each case, name the composer, conductor, or performer.
>
> 1. Born in Ottawa in 1958, this pianist is associated mainly
> with the music of Bach, but she has also recorded Scarlatti,
> Liszt, Fauré, and Debussy. A Companion of the Order of Canada,
> she currently lives in London, England.

hewitt

> 2. Born in 1938 to immigrant Greek parents, this soprano sang
> 41 different roles in a 36-year career at the Metropolitan Opera.
> Among her many film appearances: Violetta in Zeffirelli's
> "La Traviata".

stratas?

> 3. Who wrote the *music* for "O Canada"?

lavallee?

> 4. Who is music director of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra?

peter oundjian

> 5. This American-born violinist has been a Canadian citizen
> since 1988. From 1981 to 2014 she was musical director of the
> Toronto-based Tafelmusik Baroque Orchestra.

julie lemon??

> 6. This organist/composer who live 1880-1968 described himself as
> "English by birth; Canadian by adoption; Irish by extraction;
> Scotch by absorption". He wrote more than half a dozen operas
> and hundreds of pieces of choral music for St. Mary Magdalene
> church in Toronto.

willan

> 7. This Armenian-Canadian soprano, born in 1974, is the winner of
> four consecutive Juno Awards. She can be heard singing
> "Evenstar" on the soundtrack of "Lord of the Rings: the Two
> Towers". Her numerous opera roles include Cleopatra in the
> Canadian Opera Company's production of Handel's "Julius Caesar".

no idea

> 8. In the same COC production, this Canadian countertenor sang
> the role of Tolomeo. Born in 1969, he has made more than 100
> recordings. The University of Toronto recently appointed him
> to the position of Head of Early Music and Professor of Voice.

no idea

> 9. This tenor made over a dozen recordings between 1992 and 2001,
> most frequently in Wagnerian roles. He has performed at the
> closing ceremonies of two Winter Olympics, and currently works
> as a CBC Radio host.

ben heppner

> 10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
> than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
> marker.

glenn gould (you can find it under the spruce)


> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> Your categories are:
>
> A. Long & Short Musicians
> B. Long & Short Wars
> C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
> D. Long & Short Literature
> E. Shortstops
> F. Long Lives
>
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

long john baldry

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

wayne shorter

> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

6 days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

colombia

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

gone with the wind

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

network

> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

hamlet (it's a guess, I've never seen the original hand written copy)

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus wept.

> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.

xander bogaerts

> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

bucky dent ; derek jeter

> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

koi

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

giant tortoise


swp

Marc Dashevsky

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In article <uaKdnQ3Jh9W5f-rF...@giganews.com>, m...@vex.net says...
> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> Your categories are:
>
> A. Long & Short Musicians
> B. Long & Short Wars
> C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
> D. Long & Short Literature
> E. Shortstops
> F. Long Lives
>
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.
Long John Baldry

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.
Wayne Shorter

> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?
6 days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.
Colombia

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?
Lawrence of Arabia

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.
>
>
> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?
>
> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?
Me God.

> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.
>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.
Derek Jeter

> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?
carp

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?
tortoise


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Calvin

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On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 6:08:10 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:

> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers

Pass

> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.
>
> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.
>
>
> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

6 day war

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia


> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

The Godfather Part 2

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

Jaws?


> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

Henry V, Julius Caesar

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus wept.


> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.
>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

Ripken?


> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?
>
> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Tortoise

cheers,
calvin


Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Wayne Shorter

> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

Six days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia

> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Out of Africa (Well, probably not, but I do remember that I found it
looooong]

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Turtle

Dan Tilque

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6 days

>
> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Peru

>
>
> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Lawrence of Arabia

>
> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.
>
>
> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

Hamlet

>
> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus wept.

>
>
> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.
>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.
>
>
> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

sturgeon

>
> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

turtle


--
Dan Tilque

Joshua Kreitzer

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:uaKdnQ3Jh9W5f-rFnZ2dnUU7-
VXN...@giganews.com:

> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers
>
> 10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
> than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
> marker.

Glenn Gould (?)

> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

Long John Baldry; Long John Daldry

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Wayne Shorter

> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

6 days

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

"Gone with the Wind"

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

"Network"

> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

"Hamlet" (?)

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

"Jesus wept"

> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

tortoise

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Mark Brader

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Joshua Kreitzer:
> Long John Baldry; Long John Daldry

If you think one of those is correct, then you do better to pick only
one as your answer -- either it's right and you get 4 points, or it's
"almost correct" and you get 3. With your actual answer, if either
one is right then you'll get 3 the hard way.

Of course, if the actual answer is something like Long John Balder
or Long John Dalder, that's different; then only *one* of your two
answers will be almost correct, and you'll get 2 or 1, whereas if
you picked only one of your two answers then you'd get 3 or 0.
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Peter Smyth

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Mark Brader wrote:

> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> Your categories are:
>
> A. Long & Short Musicians
> B. Long & Short Wars
> C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
> D. Long & Short Literature
> E. Shortstops
> F. Long Lives
>
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.
>
> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.
>
>
> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?
Six Days
> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.
Colombia
>
> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?
Ben Hur
> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.
>
>
> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?
Hamlet
> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?
Jesus wept.
>
> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.
>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name any of them.
Alex Rodriguez
>
> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?
>
> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?
Giant Tortoise

Peter Smyth

Don Piven

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On 1/12/17 14:08, Mark Brader wrote:
> Sorry, just realized I forgot to post this when I did the previous
> set of answers. It was a difficult day.
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-10-17,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Misplaced Modifiers
> and are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers
>
> In each case, name the composer, conductor, or performer.
>
> 1. Born in Ottawa in 1958, this pianist is associated mainly
> with the music of Bach, but she has also recorded Scarlatti,
> Liszt, Fauré, and Debussy. A Companion of the Order of Canada,
> she currently lives in London, England.

Glenn Gould.
Long John Baldry.

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Wayne Shorter.

> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

Six days.

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia.

> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?
>
> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.
>
>
> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?
>
> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

"Jesus wept."

> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.
>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.
>
>
> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

Goldfish, koi.

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Tortoise.


Pete

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:uaKdnQ3Jh9W5f-rFnZ2dnUU7-
VXN...@giganews.com:

> Sorry, just realized I forgot to post this when I did the previous
> set of answers. It was a difficult day.
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-10-17,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Misplaced Modifiers
> and are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers
>
> In each case, name the composer, conductor, or performer.
>
> 1. Born in Ottawa in 1958, this pianist is associated mainly
> with the music of Bach, but she has also recorded Scarlatti,
> Liszt, Fauré, and Debussy. A Companion of the Order of Canada,
> she currently lives in London, England.

Argerich

>
> 2. Born in 1938 to immigrant Greek parents, this soprano sang
> 41 different roles in a 36-year career at the Metropolitan Opera.
> Among her many film appearances: Violetta in Zeffirelli's
> "La Traviata".

Horne; Forrester

>
> 3. Who wrote the *music* for "O Canada"?
>
> 4. Who is music director of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra?

Oundjian

>
> 5. This American-born violinist has been a Canadian citizen
> since 1988. From 1981 to 2014 she was musical director of the
> Toronto-based Tafelmusik Baroque Orchestra.

Jeanne Lammon

>
> 6. This organist/composer who live 1880-1968 described himself as
> "English by birth; Canadian by adoption; Irish by extraction;
> Scotch by absorption". He wrote more than half a dozen operas
> and hundreds of pieces of choral music for St. Mary Magdalene
> church in Toronto.

Stanford

>
> 7. This Armenian-Canadian soprano, born in 1974, is the winner of
> four consecutive Juno Awards. She can be heard singing
> "Evenstar" on the soundtrack of "Lord of the Rings: the Two
> Towers". Her numerous opera roles include Cleopatra in the
> Canadian Opera Company's production of Handel's "Julius Caesar".

Bayrakdarian

>
> 8. In the same COC production, this Canadian countertenor sang
> the role of Tolomeo. Born in 1969, he has made more than 100
> recordings. The University of Toronto recently appointed him
> to the position of Head of Early Music and Professor of Voice.
>
> 9. This tenor made over a dozen recordings between 1992 and 2001,
> most frequently in Wagnerian roles. He has performed at the
> closing ceremonies of two Winter Olympics, and currently works
> as a CBC Radio host.

Lakes

>
> 10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
> than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
> marker.

Gould

>
>
> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It
>
> Your categories are:
>
> A. Long & Short Musicians
> B. Long & Short Wars
> C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
> D. Long & Short Literature
> E. Shortstops
> F. Long Lives
>
>
> * A. Long & Short Musicians
>
> Name them.
>
> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

John Mayall

>
> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Shorter

>
>
> * B. Long & Short Wars
>
> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

6 days

>
> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia; Venezuela

>
>
> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners
>
> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

Ben Hur; How the West Was Won

>
> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.
>
>
> * D. Long & Short Literature
>
> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

King Lear; Macbeth

>
> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

Jesus Wept

>
>
> * E. Shortstops
>
> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.

Boegarts

>
> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

Alan Trammell

>
>
> * F. Science: Long Lives
>
> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?
>
> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Tortoise

>

Pete Gayde

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-10-17,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2016-11-26 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

Game 4 is over and JOSHUA KREITZER has held off a late charge by
Stephen Perry for the win. Hearty congratulations, eh?


> ** Game 4, Round 9 - Canadiana - Canadian Music-Makers

> In each case, name the composer, conductor, or performer.

> 1. Born in Ottawa in 1958, this pianist is associated mainly
> with the music of Bach, but she has also recorded Scarlatti,
> Liszt, Fauré, and Debussy. A Companion of the Order of Canada,
> she currently lives in London, England.

Angela Hewitt. 4 for Stephen.

> 2. Born in 1938 to immigrant Greek parents, this soprano sang
> 41 different roles in a 36-year career at the Metropolitan Opera.
> Among her many film appearances: Violetta in Zeffirelli's
> "La Traviata".

Teresa Stratas. 4 for Stephen.

> 3. Who wrote the *music* for "O Canada"?

Calixa Lavallée. 4 for Stephen.

> 4. Who is music director of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra?

Peter Oundjian. 4 for Stephen and Pete.

> 5. This American-born violinist has been a Canadian citizen
> since 1988. From 1981 to 2014 she was musical director of the
> Toronto-based Tafelmusik Baroque Orchestra.

Jeanne Lamon. 4 for Pete.

> 6. This organist/composer who live 1880-1968 described himself as
> "English by birth; Canadian by adoption; Irish by extraction;
> Scotch by absorption". He wrote more than half a dozen operas
> and hundreds of pieces of choral music for St. Mary Magdalene
> church in Toronto.

Healey Willan. 4 for Stephen.

> 7. This Armenian-Canadian soprano, born in 1974, is the winner of
> four consecutive Juno Awards. She can be heard singing
> "Evenstar" on the soundtrack of "Lord of the Rings: the Two
> Towers". Her numerous opera roles include Cleopatra in the
> Canadian Opera Company's production of Handel's "Julius Caesar".

Isabel Bayrakdarian. 4 for Pete.

> 8. In the same COC production, this Canadian countertenor sang
> the role of Tolomeo. Born in 1969, he has made more than 100
> recordings. The University of Toronto recently appointed him
> to the position of Head of Early Music and Professor of Voice.

Daniel Taylor.

> 9. This tenor made over a dozen recordings between 1992 and 2001,
> most frequently in Wagnerian roles. He has performed at the
> closing ceremonies of two Winter Olympics, and currently works
> as a CBC Radio host.

Ben Heppner. 4 for Stephen.

> 10. At Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, more people ask the way to his grave
> than to any other. A few bars of Bach are engraved on his
> marker.

Glenn Gould. 4 for Dan Blum, Stephen, Joshua, and Pete.


> ** Game 4, Round 10 - Challenge Round - The Long and the Short of It

> Your categories are:

> A. Long & Short Musicians
> B. Long & Short Wars
> C. Long & Short Oscar-Winners
> D. Long & Short Literature
> E. Shortstops
> F. Long Lives


> * A. Long & Short Musicians

> Name them.

> A1. Legendary 6'7" British blues singer. Elton John and Rod
> Stewart both got their starts in 1960s bands led by him.

"Long John" Baldry. 4 for Gareth, Stephen, Marc, and Don.
3 for Joshua (the hard way).

> A2. American sax player, born 1933, member of Miles Davis
> Quintet, founder of Weather Report; collaborator with Joni
> Mitchell, Steely Dan, and many others.

Wayne Shorter. 4 for Gareth, Stephen, Marc, Erland, Joshua, Don,
and Pete.


> * B. Long & Short Wars

> B1. The shortest war in modern history is considered to be the
> Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896, with a duration under 45 minutes.
> The second-shortest was fought by Israel in 1967 against
> Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. What was the duration of
> that war?

6 days. (The 6-Day War.) 4 for everyone -- Dan Blum, Gareth,
Stephen, Marc, Calvin, Erland, Dan Tilque, Joshua, Peter, Don,
and Pete.

> B2. June 2016 saw a ceasefire that will hopefully end the modern
> world's longest-running civil war, one that originated in
> the 1960s. The treaty was signed in Havana by President
> Juan Manuel Santos and rebel leader Rodrigo Londono,
> a.k.a. "Timochenko". Name the country.

Colombia. 4 for Gareth, Stephen, Marc, Calvin, Erland, Joshua,
Peter, and Don. 3 for Pete.

But in October the ceasefire deal was put to the public in a
referendum -- and defeated by a vote of about 6,400,000 against to
6,350,000 in favor. It remains to be seen what will happen next.


> * C. Long & Short Oscar Winners

> C1. What is the longest film to win the Oscar for Best Picture?

I'm accepting "Gone With the Wind" and "Lawrence of Arabia"; see
discussion below. 4 for Stephen, Marc, Dan Tilque, and Joshua.

9 different movies were given as answers, and I decided to look all
of them up in Leonard Maltin's guidebook -- which used to note in its
front matter that this is a subject that it's hard to find reliable
information on, both because movies get edited after release and
also because sources that you would expect to be reliable conflict.

For "Gone with the Wind", the principal number given for the running
time is 222 minutes, though it adds that it runs 233 minutes "with
overture, intermission/entr'acte, exit music". For "Lawrence of
Arabia", the principal number is 216 minutes, but then it says that it
was "originally" 222 minutes, and that the "restored roadshow version
on video" runs 227 minutes "with an overture, intermission/entr'acte,
exit music".

I decided to accept for quiz purposes the longest time mentioned
not including the overture etc., and that means the two movies tie
at 222 minutes. It may be noted, however, that the IMDB gives 238
minutes for GWTW, as well as various shorter lengths for different
releases; for "Lawrence" it gives 216 minutes, but 222 for the
"premiere" version, 227 for the "restored roadshow", and 228 for the
"director's cut". The round's original author apparently accepted
the IMDB number, which converts to 3 hours 58 minutes.

Based on Maltin alone (and showing the versions with overture etc. in
square brackets), the greatest lengths for actual Oscar-winners were:

3:42 [3:53] "Gone with the Wind" (1939)
3:42 [3:47] "Lawrence of Arabia" (1962)
3:32 [3:42] "Ben-Hur" (1959)
3:20 "The Godfather Part II" (1974)
3:14 "Titanic" (1997)
2:41 "Out of Africa" (1985)

And for non-winners:

4:03 [4:11] "Cleopatra" (1963)
4:02 "Greed" (1925)
2:35 [2:44] "How the West Was Won" (1962)

In the case of "Greed", Maltin's principal number for length is 2:20,
but he also says that the movie "originally" ran 8 hours -- however,
the wording implies that this version was never actually released.
The time shown in the table is for a 1999 "restored" rerelease.

> C2. The shortest performance to win an acting Oscar was
> put in by Beatrice Straight, who took home the Best
> Supporting Actress award despite being on screen for
> only 5 minutes 2 seconds. Name the 1976 film.

"Network". 4 for Stephen and Joshua.


> * D. Long & Short Literature

> D1. At 4,024 lines and nearly 30,000 words, what is Shakespeare's
> longest play?

"Hamlet". 4 for Dan Blum, Gareth, Stephen, Dan Tilque, Joshua,
and Peter.

> D2. At two words, it is the shortest verse in the English Bible.
> What are the two words?

"Jesus wept." (John 11:35.) 4 for Dan Blum, Gareth, Stephen,
Calvin, Dan Tilque, Joshua, Peter, Don, and Pete.


> * E. Shortstops

> E1. The starting shortstop for the American League in the 2016
> All-Star game, he was born in Aruba. Name him.

Xander Bogaerts. 4 for Stephen and Pete.

> E2. Five shortstops have been recognized as World Series MVP.
> Name *any* of them.

Bucky Dent, Alan Trammell, Derek Jeter, David Eckstein, Edgar
Renteria. 4 for Gareth, Stephen (the hard way), Marc, and Pete.


> * F. Science: Long Lives

> F1. The oldest recorded fish, Hanako, died in Japan in 1977 at
> the age of 226. What kind of fish was she?

Koi (accepting carp; I scored goldfish, which is a different carp, as
almost correct). 4 for Stephen and Marc. 3 for Don (the hard way).

> F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?

Giant tortoise. "Tortoise" or "turtle" was sufficient. 4 for
everyone.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 BEST
TOPICS-> Spo Lit Ent His Geo Sci Can Cha SIX
Joshua Kreitzer 8 40 40 26 11 20 4 35 172
Stephen Perry -- -- -- -- 40 40 28 48 156
Pete Gayde 32 23 31 8 27 16 16 27 156
Marc Dashevsky 12 32 -- -- 28 24 0 32 128
Dan Blum 4 20 20 22 27 23 4 16 128
Peter Smyth 12 24 16 35 16 16 0 20 127
Don Piven 16 40 -- -- 24 20 0 27 127
"Calvin" -- -- 20 38 20 21 0 16 115
Dan Tilque 4 23 8 12 20 28 0 20 111
Gareth Owen 26 24 -- -- -- -- 0 32 82
Erland Sommarskog 8 4 -- -- 32 8 0 16 68

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Calvin

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On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 9:46:52 AM UTC+10, Mark Brader wrote:

> > F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> > longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> > He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> > Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?
>
> Giant tortoise. "Tortoise" or "turtle" was sufficient. 4 for
> everyone.

I don't begrudge anyone the points, but how can a turtle be considered a terrestrial animal?

cheers,
calvin


Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> > > F2. Jonathan, born in the Seychelles, is reputed to be the
> > > longest currently living terrestrial animal at 182.
> > > He's lived since 1882 at the official residence of the
> > > Governor of St. Helena. What kind of animal is Jonathan?
> >
> > Giant tortoise. "Tortoise" or "turtle" was sufficient. 4 for
> > everyone.

"Calvin":
> I don't begrudge anyone the points, but how can a turtle be considered a
> terrestrial animal?

Sense 1 at <http://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=turtle>.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> But in October the ceasefire deal was put to the public in a
> referendum -- and defeated by a vote of about 6,400,000 against to
> 6,350,000 in favor. It remains to be seen what will happen next.
>

They brokered a new peace agreement quite quickly, and his time Santos
did not take it to a public vote, but let it suffice with a parliamentary
vote. His predecessor Uribe is against the new agreement as well, but so far
it has not ruined the show. Negotiations with the other group of sleazebags,
eh, guerilla, ELN are still in progress.

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
>> But in October the ceasefire deal was put to the public in a
>> referendum -- and defeated by a vote of about 6,400,000 against to
>> 6,350,000 in favor. It remains to be seen what will happen next.

Erland Sommarskog:
> They brokered a new peace agreement quite quickly, and his time Santos
> did not take it to a public vote, but let it suffice with a parliamentary
> vote...

Thanks; I did not hear about that.
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