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RQFTCI07 Game 3 Rounds 7-8: EuroSigns, CanNewscasters
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Mark Brader
Jul 23, 2020, 11:56:16 PM7/23/20
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.
For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on
"Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current
in the question have changed since the question was written.
I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting
*tripled quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time
of the original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty
much any present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept
the answer that was correct when the question was originally asked.
If the facts have changed in such a way that a different answer is
now correct (rather than some other sort of change), I will also
accept the new correct answer -- unless there is an explicit note
requiring otherwise. See the companion posting for further details.
This set is going to be rough for a lot of you, I think.
I originally wrote one of these rounds.
* Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
continental European versions for driving on the right.
1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
Give *both* meanings.
2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
different countries. Give *both*.
3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
sign K mean?
5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
limit sign?
6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
meaning intended for S?
8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
9. What is sign C?
10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
sign T?
11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
Please answer for each one on a separate line.
* Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
you like for fun, but for no points.
1. Citytv.
2. CFTO.
3. CBC.
4. Global.
5. Citytv (decoy)
6. Global.
7. Rogers (decoy)
8. Citytv (decoy)
9. CBC (decoy)
10. Global (decoy)
11. CFTO.
12. CBC (decoy)
13. The Weather Network.
14. Citytv.
15. CFTO.
16. Citytv (decoy)
17. CFTO (decoy)
18. Rogers.
19. Citytv (decoy)
20. CFTO (decoy)
21. Citytv (decoy)
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Well, I'm back", he said.
m...@vex.net -- Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings)
My text in this article is in the public domain.
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.
For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on
"Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current
in the question have changed since the question was written.
I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting
*tripled quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time
of the original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty
much any present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept
the answer that was correct when the question was originally asked.
If the facts have changed in such a way that a different answer is
now correct (rather than some other sort of change), I will also
accept the new correct answer -- unless there is an explicit note
requiring otherwise. See the companion posting for further details.
This set is going to be rough for a lot of you, I think.
I originally wrote one of these rounds.
* Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
continental European versions for driving on the right.
1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
Give *both* meanings.
2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
different countries. Give *both*.
3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
sign K mean?
5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
limit sign?
6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
meaning intended for S?
8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
9. What is sign C?
10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
sign T?
11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
Please answer for each one on a separate line.
* Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
you like for fun, but for no points.
1. Citytv.
2. CFTO.
3. CBC.
4. Global.
5. Citytv (decoy)
6. Global.
7. Rogers (decoy)
8. Citytv (decoy)
9. CBC (decoy)
10. Global (decoy)
11. CFTO.
12. CBC (decoy)
13. The Weather Network.
14. Citytv.
15. CFTO.
16. Citytv (decoy)
17. CFTO (decoy)
18. Rogers.
19. Citytv (decoy)
20. CFTO (decoy)
21. Citytv (decoy)
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Well, I'm back", he said.
m...@vex.net -- Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings)
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Dan Blum
Jul 24, 2020, 12:15:12 AM7/24/20
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> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
maximum speed limit and minimum speed limit
> different countries. Give *both*.
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
> 9. What is sign C?
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Mark Brader
Jul 24, 2020, 12:17:49 AM7/24/20
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Mark Brader:
> L
As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
it might mean.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto, m...@vex.net | "Able was I ere I saw Panama."
> > which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> > meaning intended for S?
Dan Blum:
> > meaning intended for S?
> L
As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
it might mean.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto, m...@vex.net | "Able was I ere I saw Panama."
Joshua Kreitzer
Jul 24, 2020, 1:04:51 AM7/24/20
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:rqydnVv5NJBGxofCnZ2dnUU7-
b_N...@giganews.com:
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
climb down a mountain
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
L; N
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
you are now leaving the town whose name is struck out on the sign
> 9. What is sign C?
do not enter
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
>
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name.
If it makes you feel any better, I would probably struggle to recognize
photos of many of the TV newscasters in *my* local area, much less those
in a foreign country.
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
b_N...@giganews.com:
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
speed limit 60 miles per hour; speed limit 60 kilometers per hour
> different countries. Give *both*.
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
> 9. What is sign C?
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
>
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name.
photos of many of the TV newscasters in *my* local area, much less those
in a foreign country.
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 24, 2020, 4:29:00 AM7/24/20
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The second looks like something I will give a blind eye. The first one
looks a tad easier to me.
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
sign, you drive at any speed you like. In other countries, it means
that a lower temporary speed limit (due to village etc) finishes, and
we are now back to the standard speed limit for the road. (This sign
is no longer found in Sweden.)
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
Maximum permitted speed. Not sure what a second meaning would be.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
Indication of that an exit is approaching. There will be two more signs,
one with two stripes and one with a single strip.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
Main road, where you have right of way in all crossings (where there is
not a traffic light).
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
>
Reminder
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
L
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
End of built-up area the regulations (such as speed limit) that goes with
it.
> 9. What is sign C?
>
Parking prohibited (but you may stop to load and unload).
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
Miscenallenous danger, almost always goes with an additonal sign that
explains the issue, at least here in Sweden.
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
B - Stopping prohibited
E - Overtaking prohibited
F - Roundabout
G - Very complex system of roundabouts with one dead end. If you drive
there, you lose. :-)
I - Direction sign.
L - Railway crossing wign signals and bars.
M - Traffic ligh.
N - Crossing with lesser roads.
O - Several dangerous curves, the first to the left.
P - Steep downhill.
Q - Bumby raod.
R - Narrowing road
looks a tad easier to me.
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
In Germany that means end of any speed limit - once you are past the
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
sign, you drive at any speed you like. In other countries, it means
that a lower temporary speed limit (due to village etc) finishes, and
we are now back to the standard speed limit for the road. (This sign
is no longer found in Sweden.)
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
one with two stripes and one with a single strip.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
not a traffic light).
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
>
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
it.
> 9. What is sign C?
>
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
explains the issue, at least here in Sweden.
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
E - Overtaking prohibited
F - Roundabout
G - Very complex system of roundabouts with one dead end. If you drive
there, you lose. :-)
I - Direction sign.
L - Railway crossing wign signals and bars.
M - Traffic ligh.
N - Crossing with lesser roads.
O - Several dangerous curves, the first to the left.
P - Steep downhill.
Q - Bumby raod.
R - Narrowing road
Bruce Bowler
Jul 24, 2020, 8:09:50 AM7/24/20
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 22:56:11 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05, and
> should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written by
> members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the correct answers in
> about 3 days.
>
> For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted
> Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
>
> In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current in the
> question have changed since the question was written.
> I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting *tripled
> quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time of the
> original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty much any
> present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept the answer that
> was correct when the question was originally asked. If the facts have
> changed in such a way that a different answer is now correct (rather
> than some other sort of change), I will also accept the new correct
> answer -- unless there is an explicit note requiring otherwise. See the
> companion posting for further details.
>
>
> This set is going to be rough for a lot of you, I think.
Yup...
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05, and
> should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written by
> members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the correct answers in
> about 3 days.
>
> For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted
> Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
>
> In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current in the
> question have changed since the question was written.
> I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting *tripled
> quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time of the
> original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty much any
> present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept the answer that
> was correct when the question was originally asked. If the facts have
> changed in such a way that a different answer is now correct (rather
> than some other sort of change), I will also accept the new correct
> answer -- unless there is an explicit note requiring otherwise. See the
> companion posting for further details.
>
>
> This set is going to be rough for a lot of you, I think.
> I originally wrote one of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are shown
> in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in continental
> European versions for driving on the right.
>
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found only
> in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
>
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
>
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
>
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
>
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain in
> the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being too
> confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would be the
> same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
>
> 9. What is sign C?
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
>
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
F traffic circle/rotary
G the 1 o'clock exit on the Swindon circle is closed
I turn here to go to the secret nuclear bunker
L train tracks ahead
N side road
O windy road
P Steep grade
Q bumpy road
R road narrows
S RR crossing gates
>
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
>
Dan Blum
Jul 24, 2020, 9:15:44 AM7/24/20
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> > > which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> > > meaning intended for S?
>
> Dan Blum:
> > L
> As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
> it might mean.
Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
> Mark Brader:
> > > which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> > > meaning intended for S?
>
> Dan Blum:
> > L
> As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
> it might mean.
Mark Brader
Jul 24, 2020, 11:37:28 AM7/24/20
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Mark Brader:
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Domine, defende nos
m...@vex.net | Contra hos motores bos!" -- A. D. Godley
> > As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
> > it might mean.
Dan Blum:
> > it might mean.
> Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
Huh. Right answer, wrong reason!
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "Domine, defende nos
m...@vex.net | Contra hos motores bos!" -- A. D. Godley
Dan Blum
Jul 24, 2020, 1:12:26 PM7/24/20
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> > > As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
> > > it might mean.
>
> Dan Blum:
> > Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
> Huh. Right answer, wrong reason!
Then I really don't get it, and I am not surprised they replaced it.
> Mark Brader:
> > > As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
> > > it might mean.
>
> Dan Blum:
> > Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
> Huh. Right answer, wrong reason!
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 24, 2020, 3:13:41 PM7/24/20
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Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
>> Mark Brader:
>> > > As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
>> > > it might mean.
>>
>> Dan Blum:
>> > Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
>
>> Huh. Right answer, wrong reason!
>
> Then I really don't get it, and I am not surprised they replaced it.
>
It took me a while, but eventually I realised they are supposed to be
> Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
>> Mark Brader:
>> > > As this is the only one you got right, I'm curious what you thought
>> > > it might mean.
>>
>> Dan Blum:
>> > Railroad crossing. The symbols on the S sign look like tie spikes.
>
>> Huh. Right answer, wrong reason!
>
> Then I really don't get it, and I am not surprised they replaced it.
>
the bars that come down as a train is approaching.
Dan Blum
Jul 24, 2020, 6:35:51 PM7/24/20
to
recognize when I already know what it's supposed to be.
Mark Brader
Jul 24, 2020, 7:56:40 PM7/24/20
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[Sign S on the handout]
Erland Sommarskog:
familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
was either crossing or approaching. See:
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DBC4R4/manually-operated-railway-level-crossing-at-cantley-norfolk-england-DBC4R4.jpg
(That particular one is still like that according to Google Street
View, but there aren't many left any more.)
--
Mark Brader Be there or be... hmmm. I can't pretend that a
Toronto six-hour seminar on trivia skills is exactly the
m...@vex.net opposite of "square." --Ken Jennings
Erland Sommarskog:
> > It took me a while, but eventually I realised they are supposed to be
> > the bars that come down as a train is approaching.
Dan Blum:
> > the bars that come down as a train is approaching.
> OK, sure. To me that is a classic example of a symbol I can only
> recognize when I already know what it's supposed to be.
Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> recognize when I already know what it's supposed to be.
familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
was either crossing or approaching. See:
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DBC4R4/manually-operated-railway-level-crossing-at-cantley-norfolk-england-DBC4R4.jpg
(That particular one is still like that according to Google Street
View, but there aren't many left any more.)
--
Mark Brader Be there or be... hmmm. I can't pretend that a
Toronto six-hour seminar on trivia skills is exactly the
m...@vex.net opposite of "square." --Ken Jennings
Pete Gayde
Jul 25, 2020, 12:10:08 AM7/25/20
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>
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
>
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
>
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
>
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
>
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
>
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
>
> 9. What is sign C?
>
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
>
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
>
>
swp
Jul 25, 2020, 12:14:26 AM7/25/20
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On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 11:56:16 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
> and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
> by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
> may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
> correct answers in about 3 days.
noted
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
> and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
> by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
> may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
> correct answers in about 3 days.
> For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on
> "Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
>
> In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current
> in the question have changed since the question was written.
> I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting
> *tripled quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time
> of the original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty
> much any present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept
> the answer that was correct when the question was originally asked.
> If the facts have changed in such a way that a different answer is
> now correct (rather than some other sort of change), I will also
> accept the new correct answer -- unless there is an explicit note
> requiring otherwise. See the companion posting for further details.
>
>
> This set is going to be rough for a lot of you, I think.
> I originally wrote one of these rounds.
but when they passed around the plate at the end of it all
I didn't have a penny to pay
so I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign
I said, "thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me I'm alive and doin' fine"
whoa! Signs, signs, everywhere a sign
blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?
>
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
> shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
> continental European versions for driving on the right.
>
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
> 9. What is sign C?
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
>
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
>
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
> people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
>
> I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
> the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
> you like for fun, but for no points.
> 1. Citytv.
dwight drummond
> 2. CFTO.
> 3. CBC.
diana swain
> 4. Global.
> 5. Citytv (decoy)
> 6. Global.
> 7. Rogers (decoy)
> 8. Citytv (decoy)
> 9. CBC (decoy)
> 10. Global (decoy)
> 11. CFTO.
> 12. CBC (decoy)
> 13. The Weather Network.
> 14. Citytv.
> 15. CFTO.
> 16. Citytv (decoy)
> 17. CFTO (decoy)
> 18. Rogers.
> 19. Citytv (decoy)
> 20. CFTO (decoy)
> 21. Citytv (decoy)
>
> --
> Mark Brader, Toronto "Well, I'm back", he said.
> m...@vex.net -- Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings)
>
> My text in this article is in the public domain.
Erland Sommarskog
Jul 25, 2020, 3:25:38 AM7/25/20
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> was either crossing or approaching. See:
>
Yeah, those I've never seen.
> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> was either crossing or approaching. See:
>
And you could ask what the point is have these gates across the railway.
If they are in that position when the train comes, it cannot end well.
In Sweden, at least, there is a second sign for railway crossing, which
impossible to mistake for something else, since it features a steam
locomotive. This is a crossing *without* gates or bars, so be careful!
https://encrypted-
tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ3AAGJWRDChj779bFuk5RYrbvIVFuYQvd7FEBu
NWmOlknyfhCLyd7mmXVYIOoO1i4YrkL8YonE&usqp=CAc
Dan Tilque
Jul 25, 2020, 9:55:30 AM7/25/20
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On 7/23/20 8:56 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
> shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
> continental European versions for driving on the right.
>
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
emergency parking only, no parking
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
>
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
> shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
> continental European versions for driving on the right.
>
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
>
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
speed limit 60 mph
>
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
>
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
>
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
>
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
>
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
(and those are T-squares, not hammers)
>
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
>
> 9. What is sign C?
>
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
>
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
>
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
>
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
> people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
>
> I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
> the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
> you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 1. Citytv.
> 2. CFTO.
> 3. CBC.
> 4. Global.
> 5. Citytv (decoy)
> 6. Global.
> 7. Rogers (decoy)
> 8. Citytv (decoy)
> 9. CBC (decoy)
> 10. Global (decoy)
> 11. CFTO.
> 12. CBC (decoy)
> 13. The Weather Network.
> 14. Citytv.
> 15. CFTO.
> 16. Citytv (decoy)
> 17. CFTO (decoy)
> 18. Rogers.
> 19. Citytv (decoy)
> 20. CFTO (decoy)
> 21. Citytv (decoy)
>
--
Dan Blum
Jul 25, 2020, 10:44:10 AM7/25/20
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> [Sign S on the handout]
> Erland Sommarskog:
> > > It took me a while, but eventually I realised they are supposed to be
> > > the bars that come down as a train is approaching.
> Dan Blum:
> > OK, sure. To me that is a classic example of a symbol I can only
> > recognize when I already know what it's supposed to be.
> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> was either crossing or approaching. See:
> http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DBC4R4/manually-operated-railway-level-crossing-at-cantley-norfolk-england-DBC4R4.jpg
> (That particular one is still like that according to Google Street
> View, but there aren't many left any more.)
That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
> [Sign S on the handout]
> Erland Sommarskog:
> > > It took me a while, but eventually I realised they are supposed to be
> > > the bars that come down as a train is approaching.
> Dan Blum:
> > OK, sure. To me that is a classic example of a symbol I can only
> > recognize when I already know what it's supposed to be.
> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> was either crossing or approaching. See:
> http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DBC4R4/manually-operated-railway-level-crossing-at-cantley-norfolk-england-DBC4R4.jpg
> (That particular one is still like that according to Google Street
> View, but there aren't many left any more.)
much like railroad tracks.
Mark Brader
Jul 25, 2020, 7:24:25 PM7/25/20
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Mark Brader:
Dan Blum:
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "The only proven use of antimatter is the production
m...@vex.net | of Nobel Prizes in physics." -- Henry Spencer
>> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
>> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
>> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
>> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
>> was either crossing or approaching...
>> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
>> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
>> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
Dan Blum:
> That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
> much like railroad tracks.
Not when you notice that the fence pickets are asymmetrical.
> much like railroad tracks.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "The only proven use of antimatter is the production
m...@vex.net | of Nobel Prizes in physics." -- Henry Spencer
Mark Brader
Jul 25, 2020, 7:37:50 PM7/25/20
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Mark Brader:
I think Germany is another one that did.
> And you could ask what the point is have these gates across the railway.
> If they are in that position when the train comes, it cannot end well.
In that case they'd just get smashed. But the crossing guard or signalman
would presumably be responsible for the cost of replacing them, and he
doesn't want that to happen. Therefore he has a strong incentive to
close them across the road.
> In Sweden, at least, there is a second sign for railway crossing, which
> impossible to mistake for something else, since it features a steam
> locomotive.
But to know what it means, you have to know what a steam locomotive looks
like! I think I've seen a similar sign in the US somewhere at some time,
probably indicating a train *station*, but I may be misremembering.
> This is a crossing *without* gates or bars, so be careful!
We have those on this continent too, though normally only on minor roads.
--
Mark Brader | "How, you may ask, did the mind of man ever excogitate
Toronto | anything so false and foolish? The answer is that the
m...@vex.net | mind of man had nothing to do with it..." --A.E. Housman
> > Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> > familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> > the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> > road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> > was either crossing or approaching. See:
Erland Sommarskog:
> > familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> > the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> > road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> > was either crossing or approaching. See:
> Yeah, those I've never seen.
I'm not surprised. I'm not sure how many countries ever used them;
I think Germany is another one that did.
> And you could ask what the point is have these gates across the railway.
> If they are in that position when the train comes, it cannot end well.
would presumably be responsible for the cost of replacing them, and he
doesn't want that to happen. Therefore he has a strong incentive to
close them across the road.
> In Sweden, at least, there is a second sign for railway crossing, which
> impossible to mistake for something else, since it features a steam
> locomotive.
like! I think I've seen a similar sign in the US somewhere at some time,
probably indicating a train *station*, but I may be misremembering.
> This is a crossing *without* gates or bars, so be careful!
--
Mark Brader | "How, you may ask, did the mind of man ever excogitate
Toronto | anything so false and foolish? The answer is that the
m...@vex.net | mind of man had nothing to do with it..." --A.E. Housman
Dan Blum
Jul 26, 2020, 12:16:23 PM7/26/20
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> >> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> >> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> >> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> >> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> >> was either crossing or approaching...
> Dan Blum:
> > That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
> > much like railroad tracks.
> Not when you notice that the fence pickets are asymmetrical.
Sure, but at first glance it's easy to miss that. If I HAD noticed
> Mark Brader:
> >> Whereas the replacement, sign L, will only be recognizable if you're
> >> familiar with the way level crossings *used* to work in, say, England:
> >> the gates were swung horizontally (by hand) and were across either the
> >> road or the railway at all times, depending on whether or not a train
> >> was either crossing or approaching...
> Dan Blum:
> > That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
> > much like railroad tracks.
> Not when you notice that the fence pickets are asymmetrical.
them I would have not figured out what it meant, as I've not seen that
kind of fence on railroad tracks in the US.
Mark Brader
Jul 26, 2020, 3:09:51 PM7/26/20
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[Sign L on the handout]
the right meaning for the wrong reason. That takes a special talent!
--
Mark Brader "It flies like a truck."
Toronto "Good. What is a truck?"
m...@vex.net -- BUCKAROO BANZAI
Dan Blum:
>>> That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
>>> much like railroad tracks.
Mark Brader:
>>> That may be what it's supposed to look like, but it also looks very
>>> much like railroad tracks.
>> Not when you notice that the fence pickets are asymmetrical.
Dan Blum:
> Sure, but at first glance it's easy to miss that. If I HAD noticed
> them I would have not figured out what it meant, as I've not seen that
> kind of fence on railroad tracks in the US.
So that's *both* of the relevant signs [L and S] where you've identified
> them I would have not figured out what it meant, as I've not seen that
> kind of fence on railroad tracks in the US.
the right meaning for the wrong reason. That takes a special talent!
--
Mark Brader "It flies like a truck."
Toronto "Good. What is a truck?"
m...@vex.net -- BUCKAROO BANZAI
Mark Brader
Jul 27, 2020, 12:04:57 AM7/27/20
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Mark Brader:
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
> shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
> continental European versions for driving on the right.
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
Germany: End speed limit. Elsewhere: end speed zone (national
highway speed limit applies). An end to other local restrictions
may also apply. (Still true.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
UK: speed limit 60 mph. Elsewhere: speed limit 60 km/h. 4 for
Joshua, Bruce, Pete, Stephen, and Dan Tilque.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
300 yards or meters to the upcoming exit. (Each stroke means
100 yards or meters and a 3-2-1 countdown sequence is posted.
Anything along these lines was okay.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
Priority road: until further notice you *do not* have to yield to
traffic entering from your right. 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
Reminder. This sign is not marking a new speed limit, just
repeating the current one -- the reverse of the use of "BEGINS" here.
4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
Preliminary warning between the normal green and the yellow. As far
as I know all three meanings are still in use. 4 for Stephen.
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
L (railway crossing, with barriers; still true). 4 for Dan Blum,
Erland, Bruce, and Stephen. 3 for Joshua.
The hammerheads were actually the counterweights on each barrier arm.
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
End of (town) speed zone (national highway speed limit applies).
4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 9. What is sign C?
No parking. (I'd've accepted "no waiting" or "no standing", but
"no stopping" is wrong; that's B.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
Miscellaneous warning: some hazard that no symbol is available for
(usually used with explanatory text below). Answers like "hazard"
or "caution" were acceptable. 4 for Erland, Pete, Stephen,
and Dan Tilque.
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
B. No stopping.
E. No passing (overtaking).
F. Roundabout (traffic circle) or mini-roundabout.
G. Magic roundabout (two-way traffic circle with mini-roundabouts
where roads join it, just as diagrammed). The exit shown at
top right is not a through street.
I. The Secret Nuclear Bunker is a disused Cold War bomb shelter in
England, now a tourist attraction.
M. Traffic lights.
N. Crossroad (where you do not have to yield).
O. Double curve.
P. Gradient.
Q. Bump (or rough road).
R. Road narrows.
Erland and Bruce tried these and both of them more or less got all of them,
except Bruce missed B and E.
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
> people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
> I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
> the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
> you like for fun, but for no points.
This was the hardest round in the original game, and fourth-hardest --
excluding audio rounds -- in the entire season.
> 1. Citytv.
Dwight Drummond. (Now with the CBC.) 4 for Stephen.
> 2. CFTO.
Ken Shaw. (Recently retired.)
> 3. CBC.
Diana Swain. (Still true.) 4 for Stephen.
> 4. Global.
Leslie Roberts. (Now with CTV's Ottawa station.)
> 5. Citytv (decoy)
Ed the Sock. (Now retired as far as I can tell.)
> 6. Global.
Christine Crosbie. (Died in 2019.)
> 7. Rogers (decoy)
Linda Leatherdale. (No longer on TV as far as I can cell.)
> 8. Citytv (decoy)
Anne Mroczkowski. (Retired in 2013.)
> 9. CBC (decoy)
Amanda Singroy. (Now with the CBC.)
> 10. Global (decoy)
Anne-Marie Mediwake. (Now with CTV.)
> 11. CFTO.
Dave Devall. (Retired in 2009.)
In the days before computerized displays, he used to present
weather reports by standing behind a transparent map and writing in
mirror-image characters on the back of it. I always thought it was
a classy technique. See:
http://static.torontopubliclibrary.ca/da/images/LC/tspa_0100533f.jpg
> 12. CBC (decoy)
Natasha Ramsahai. (Now on Citytv.)
> 13. The Weather Network.
Karen Johnson. (Now with the CBC.)
> 14. Citytv.
Dina Pugliese. (Still true.)
> 15. CFTO.
Suneel Joshi. (I'm not sure what he's doing now.)
> 16. Citytv (decoy)
David Onley. (Retired in 2007 and was then lieutenant-governor of
Ontario until 2014.)
> 17. CFTO (decoy)
Christine Bentley. (Retired in 2012.)
> 18. Rogers.
Dale Goldhawk. (Retired in 2016.)
> 19. Citytv (decoy)
Beatrice Politi. (I'm not sure what she's doing now.)
> 20. CFTO (decoy)
Pauline Chan. (Still true.)
> 21. Citytv (decoy)
Kathryn Humphreys. (Retired in 2015.)
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> His Lit Sci Ent Geo Can FOUR
Stephen Perry 32 39 -- -- 40 8 119
Dan Blum 32 22 24 28 4 0 106
Joshua Kreitzer 26 20 12 40 7 0 98
Dan Tilque 24 4 20 16 8 0 68
Erland Sommarskog 20 0 0 4 32 0 56
Pete Gayde 8 0 -- -- 8 0 16
Bruce Bowler -- -- -- -- 8 0 8
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Mark Brader | "This was the ancient Greek equivalent
Toronto | of 'citation needed'."
m...@vex.net | --Matt Parker
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
...
> Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
> I originally wrote one of these rounds.
That was the signs round.
> * Game 3, Round 7 - Geography - European Highway Signs
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/euro.png
> Two warnings: first, answers may repeat. Second, some signs are
> shown in British versions for traffic driving on the left, some in
> continental European versions for driving on the right.
> 1. Sign D may appear with either a solid black slash or a striped
> version as shown here. It has one meaning that """is""" found
> only in Germany and a related meaning in other countries.
> Give *both* meanings.
highway speed limit applies). An end to other local restrictions
may also apply. (Still true.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 2. Sign A also has two meanings, related to each other, used in
> different countries. Give *both*.
Joshua, Bruce, Pete, Stephen, and Dan Tilque.
> 3. Explain sign H, seen on freeways.
100 yards or meters and a 3-2-1 countdown sequence is posted.
Anything along these lines was okay.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 4. In countries that use it, such as France and Germany, what does
> sign K mean?
traffic entering from your right. 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 5. In France what does it mean if you see "RAPPEL" under a speed
> limit sign?
repeating the current one -- the reverse of the use of "BEGINS" here.
4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 6. In Canada a flashing green traffic light """has""" two meanings
> in different provinces. A third meaning """occurs""" in Austria,
> Russia, and some other countries. What is that?
as I know all three meanings are still in use. 4 for Stephen.
> 7. Sign S does not show a pair of hammers, but that's what some
> people thought it looked like, when it was introduced in Britain
> in the 1960s. Eventually the design was withdrawn as being
> too confusing. But you can figure it out, so you tell us:
> which other sign on the handout """is now""" used with the same
> meaning intended for S?
Erland, Bruce, and Stephen. 3 for Joshua.
The hammerheads were actually the counterweights on each barrier arm.
> 8. Sign J mentions a specific town, Champeix, but in countries such
> as France and Germany it also has a general meaning that would
> be the same no matter what place was mentioned. What's that?
4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 9. What is sign C?
"no stopping" is wrong; that's B.) 4 for Erland and Stephen.
> 10. And to finish the round with appropriate punctuation, what is
> sign T?
(usually used with explanatory text below). Answers like "hazard"
or "caution" were acceptable. 4 for Erland, Pete, Stephen,
and Dan Tilque.
> 11. The other signs on the handout were decoys, of course --
> identify them if you like for fun, but for no points.
> Please answer for each one on a separate line.
E. No passing (overtaking).
F. Roundabout (traffic circle) or mini-roundabout.
G. Magic roundabout (two-way traffic circle with mini-roundabouts
where roads join it, just as diagrammed). The exit shown at
top right is not a through street.
I. The Secret Nuclear Bunker is a disused Cold War bomb shelter in
England, now a tourist attraction.
M. Traffic lights.
N. Crossroad (where you do not have to yield).
O. Double curve.
P. Gradient.
Q. Bump (or rough road).
R. Road narrows.
Erland and Bruce tried these and both of them more or less got all of them,
except Bruce missed B and E.
> * Game 3, Round 8 - Canadiana - Local TV newscasters
> Please see the handout at: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/3/tv.pdf
> These people """are""" TV newscasters or others involved in
> news-related programming, who """appear""" on programs whose
> intended audience is Ontario or sometimes just the greater
> Toronto area. Some of them """may""" occasionally appear on
> national programs. We'll give you a number on the handout, and
> the broadcaster the person """currently""" works for, and you tell
> us the person's name. Media concentration being what it is, some
> people """may""" also work for other outlets than the ones we name.
> I've sorted the round in order of the handout, thus interspersing
> the 11 decoys with the others. Answer for the decoys as well if
> you like for fun, but for no points.
excluding audio rounds -- in the entire season.
> 1. Citytv.
Dwight Drummond. (Now with the CBC.) 4 for Stephen.
> 2. CFTO.
Ken Shaw. (Recently retired.)
> 3. CBC.
Diana Swain. (Still true.) 4 for Stephen.
> 4. Global.
Leslie Roberts. (Now with CTV's Ottawa station.)
> 5. Citytv (decoy)
Ed the Sock. (Now retired as far as I can tell.)
> 6. Global.
Christine Crosbie. (Died in 2019.)
> 7. Rogers (decoy)
Linda Leatherdale. (No longer on TV as far as I can cell.)
> 8. Citytv (decoy)
Anne Mroczkowski. (Retired in 2013.)
> 9. CBC (decoy)
Amanda Singroy. (Now with the CBC.)
> 10. Global (decoy)
Anne-Marie Mediwake. (Now with CTV.)
> 11. CFTO.
Dave Devall. (Retired in 2009.)
In the days before computerized displays, he used to present
weather reports by standing behind a transparent map and writing in
mirror-image characters on the back of it. I always thought it was
a classy technique. See:
http://static.torontopubliclibrary.ca/da/images/LC/tspa_0100533f.jpg
> 12. CBC (decoy)
Natasha Ramsahai. (Now on Citytv.)
> 13. The Weather Network.
Karen Johnson. (Now with the CBC.)
> 14. Citytv.
Dina Pugliese. (Still true.)
> 15. CFTO.
Suneel Joshi. (I'm not sure what he's doing now.)
> 16. Citytv (decoy)
David Onley. (Retired in 2007 and was then lieutenant-governor of
Ontario until 2014.)
> 17. CFTO (decoy)
Christine Bentley. (Retired in 2012.)
> 18. Rogers.
Dale Goldhawk. (Retired in 2016.)
> 19. Citytv (decoy)
Beatrice Politi. (I'm not sure what she's doing now.)
> 20. CFTO (decoy)
Pauline Chan. (Still true.)
> 21. Citytv (decoy)
Kathryn Humphreys. (Retired in 2015.)
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> His Lit Sci Ent Geo Can FOUR
Stephen Perry 32 39 -- -- 40 8 119
Dan Blum 32 22 24 28 4 0 106
Joshua Kreitzer 26 20 12 40 7 0 98
Dan Tilque 24 4 20 16 8 0 68
Erland Sommarskog 20 0 0 4 32 0 56
Pete Gayde 8 0 -- -- 8 0 16
Bruce Bowler -- -- -- -- 8 0 8
--
Mark Brader | "This was the ancient Greek equivalent
Toronto | of 'citation needed'."
m...@vex.net | --Matt Parker
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