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Calvin

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Jul 15, 2012, 9:16:03 PM7/15/12
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1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?
4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?
5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?
6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?
8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
arts?
9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?
10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
trouble?


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cheers,
calvin

Mark Brader

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Jul 15, 2012, 9:38:58 PM7/15/12
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"Calvin":
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Pacific Time.

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?

Tattoo.

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Epstein?

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey.

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Pharmaceuticals.

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Red, yellow, blue.

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
> arts?

Art.

Painting, that is.

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Scott.

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock's 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
> trouble?

What to do with his dead body.
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John Masters

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Jul 16, 2012, 1:12:25 AM7/16/12
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On 2012-07-16 01:16:03 +0000, Calvin said:

>
>
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Eastern Standard Time

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Spain

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Drugs

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Black, Yellow, Green

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the arts?

Several really but I expect you want painting.

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred HitchcockÔøΩs 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was
> the trouble?


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John Masters

Of those who say nothing, few are silent.
- Thomas Neill

Gareth Owen

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Jul 16, 2012, 1:24:31 AM7/16/12
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Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> writes:

> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US
> mainland?

Pacific Time

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?

Tattoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Pharmaceuticals

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?


> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Gree, Red and White

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field
> of the arts?

Painting

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was
> the trouble?

He was dead

Marc Dashevsky

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Jul 16, 2012, 2:09:29 AM7/16/12
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In article <op.whils...@04233-26jz62s.staff.ad.bond.edu.au>, cal...@phlegm.com says...
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
Pacific

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
Tattoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?
Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?
Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?
pharmaceuticals

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?
red, white, blue

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the arts?
> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?
Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock's 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the trouble?
he was dead . . . and not yet buried

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Dan Tilque

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Jul 16, 2012, 2:59:46 AM7/16/12
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Calvin wrote:
>
>
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Alaska Time, unless by "mainland" you mean the contiguous US, in which
case it's Pacific Time

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?
> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Epstein?

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

pharmaceuticals

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

red white blue

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of
> the arts?

painting

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what
> was the trouble?


--
Dan Tilque

Mark Brader

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Jul 16, 2012, 2:41:44 AM7/16/12
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"Calvin":
> > 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

John Masters:
> Eastern Standard Time

That's even worse than my answer of Pacific Time.
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Joachim Parsch

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Jul 16, 2012, 2:44:08 AM7/16/12
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Calvin schrieb:
>
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Pacific Time

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?
> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Green, White, Red

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
> arts?

Painter

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
> trouble?

Harry is found dead, and a group of people (each of whom has some
reason to believe, he killed Harry) can't get rid of the body.

Joachim

David B

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Jul 16, 2012, 5:31:42 AM7/16/12
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1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Alaskan Standard Time.

2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein.

4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey.

5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Pharmaceuticals.

6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Red White and Green.

8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
arts?

Painting.

9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott.

10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
trouble?

He was dead.

John Masters

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Jul 16, 2012, 6:19:18 AM7/16/12
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On 2012-07-16 07:41:44 +0100, Mark Brader said:

> "Calvin":
>>> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
>
> John Masters:
>> Eastern Standard Time
>
> That's even worse than my answer of Pacific Time.

I told you my geography knowledge is poor (actually non-existent)

Bruce Bowler

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Jul 16, 2012, 10:33:02 AM7/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin wrote:

> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US
mainland?

Pacific TIme

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?

Tatoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?
> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which
industry?

Pharmaceuticals

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?
> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of
the
> arts?
> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was
the trouble?

He was dead?

Jeffrey Turner

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Jul 16, 2012, 1:00:15 PM7/16/12
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On 7/15/2012 9:16 PM, Calvin wrote:
>
>
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
Pacific (or do you mean Alaska?)
> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?
Tattoo
> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?
Turkey
> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?
Pharmaceuticals
> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?
Red, yellow, blue
> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of
> the arts?
Film
> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?
> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was
> the trouble?

--Jeff

Peter Smyth

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Jul 16, 2012, 5:21:56 PM7/16/12
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"Calvin" wrote in message
news:op.whils...@04233-26jz62s.staff.ad.bond.edu.au...
>
>1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
Pacific Time
>2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?
>3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?
Brian Epstein
>4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?
>5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?
Pharmaceuticals
>6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
>7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?
Red White Green
>8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
>arts?
Painting
>9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?
Ridley Scott
>10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
>trouble?
>

Peter Smyth

Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 16, 2012, 6:01:39 PM7/16/12
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Calvin (cal...@phlegm.com) writes:
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US
> mainland?

Alaskan Time

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstin

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Medical

> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Red, white and green

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock?s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was
> the trouble?

Harry was dead.


--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se

Stan Brown

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Jul 17, 2012, 9:08:01 PM7/17/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>
> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Pacific

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy Island?

Tattoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian something

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

None; it was set in Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Drugs, but not the fun kind

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?
> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Oh god. I'll guess red-blue-black.

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
> arts?

Drawing

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock?s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
> trouble?

He was dead?

--
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http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

Stan Brown

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Jul 17, 2012, 9:09:32 PM7/17/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:41:44 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> "Calvin":
> > > 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
>
> John Masters:
> > Eastern Standard Time
>
> That's even worse than my answer of Pacific Time.

Oh crud, I just realized. I remember thinking as I typed it, "that's
an awfully easy one."

Oh well -- I've already posted my answers.

Calvin

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Jul 19, 2012, 10:02:06 PM7/19/12
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Apologies for the delay- you can expect answers & scores on Monday.

cheers,
calvin

Rob Parker

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Jul 22, 2012, 9:00:15 AM7/22/12
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> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Pacific time

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?

Tattoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Pharmecutical

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?

no idea

> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

red black gold (?)

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
arts?

Painting

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Speilberg (?)

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
trouble?

he was dead


Rob
[back from holiday, and surprised to have only missed one of these]

Calvin

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Jul 22, 2012, 8:19:24 PM7/22/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:


> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?

Pacific Time
"The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.

> 2 What was the name of Mr. Roarke's sidekick on the TV show Fantasy
> Island?

Tattoo

> 3 Which Beatles' manager died unexpectedly in 1967?

Brian Epstein

> 4 The 1978 film Midnight Express was set in which European country?

Turkey
Someone at the local club also wanted to argue that it's not in Europe-
look it up.

> 5 The American company Pfizer primarily is involved in which industry?

Drugs / Pharmaceuticals
"Medical" was not specific enough sorry

> 6 What is the name of the Sesame Street detective?

Sherlock Hemlock, Egad!
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Sherlock_Hemlock

> 7 What three colours appear on the flag of Bulgaria?

Red, white and green

> 8 William Hogarth was best known his achievements in which field of the
> arts?

Painting / Printing / Engraving. I'll also accept "Drawing" though
technically I'm not sure it's right.

> 9 Which director's hits include Hannibal, Gladiator and Alien?

Ridley Scott

> 10 In Alfred Hitchcock’s 1955 film The Trouble with Harry - what was the
> trouble?

He was dead / unburied.


Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL Quiz 234
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 9 Joshua Kreitzer
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Marc Dashevsky
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Mark Brader
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 7 Gareth Owen
0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 7 Chris Johnson
1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 7 David Brown
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7 Rob Parker
1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 6 John Masters
1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 6 Peter Smyth
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 Joachim Parsch
0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 4 Erland S
0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 4 Dan Tilque
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 Pete Gayde
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
10 7 10 11 11 0 5 9 11 9 83 64%

Joshua just takes it from Marky Marc.

--
cheers,
calvin

Stan Brown

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Jul 22, 2012, 8:33:45 PM7/22/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>
>
> > 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
>
> Pacific Time
> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.
>

Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
the mainland. "Pacific" would have been correct if you had said
"continguous".

Stan Brown

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Jul 22, 2012, 8:37:25 PM7/22/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>
> Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL Quiz 234
> - - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
> 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 9 Joshua Kreitzer
> 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Marc Dashevsky
> 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Mark Brader
> 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 7 Gareth Owen
> 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 7 Chris Johnson
> 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 7 David Brown
> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7 Rob Parker
> 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 6 John Masters
> 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 6 Peter Smyth
> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 Joachim Parsch
> 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 4 Erland S
> 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 4 Dan Tilque
> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 Pete Gayde
> - - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
> 10 7 10 11 11 0 5 9 11 9 83 64%
>


I posted at 7/17 21:08. Unless my eyes are failing me, my score
isn't in there. If you accept "Pacific", I think my score is

> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7

If you don't accept "Pacific", I think it's

> 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 6

Mark Brader

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Jul 22, 2012, 8:40:06 PM7/22/12
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"Calvin":
>>> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
>>
>> Pacific Time
>> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.

Stan Brown:
> Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
> be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
> the mainland. "Pacific" would have been correct if you had said
> "continguous".

Agreed. Just because you intended to ask a different question is no
reason to accept a wrong answer. Alaska Time is the only right answer.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Big programs are a bug."
m...@vex.net -- Geoff Collyer

Stan Brown

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Jul 22, 2012, 8:45:52 PM7/22/12
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:40:06 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> "Calvin":
> >>> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
> >>
> >> Pacific Time
> >> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.
>
> Stan Brown:
> > Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
> > be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
> > the mainland. "Pacific" would have been correct if you had said
> > "continguous".
>
> Agreed. Just because you intended to ask a different question is no
> reason to accept a wrong answer. Alaska Time is the only right answer.

And actually I gave Calvin credit for a really clever question. I
felt rather pleased, in an odd way, at having gone for the obvious
but wrong answer when, if I'd thought for more than a millisecond, I
could have given the correct answer.

Dan Tilque

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Jul 22, 2012, 9:41:13 PM7/22/12
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Mark Brader wrote:
> "Calvin":
>>>> 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?
>>> Pacific Time
>>> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.
>
> Stan Brown:
>> Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
>> be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
>> the mainland. "Pacific" would have been correct if you had said
>> "continguous".
>
> Agreed. Just because you intended to ask a different question is no
> reason to accept a wrong answer. Alaska Time is the only right answer.

That never seems to matter to Calvin. He has his predetermined answer,
and even when it turns out to be totally wrong, it's still right for his
quizzes. Example: the question about how many countries Spain borders on.

However, I think both Alaska and Pacific should be considered right
here, since the question was ambiguous. There are two official terms
applicable here: Contiguous US (i.e. the old 48 states) and Continental
US (Contiguous + Alaska). Upon hearing the term "US mainland" (which is
not an official term), some people will think of one and some the other.
Just happened in this quiz. So both should be given credit.

--
Dan Tilque

Calvin

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Jul 22, 2012, 10:57:26 PM7/22/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:37:25 +1000, Stan Brown
<the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:


> I posted at 7/17 21:08.

Never made it to my server sorry.

Unless my eyes are failing me, my score
> isn't in there. If you accept "Pacific", I think my score is
>
>> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7
>
> If you don't accept "Pacific", I think it's
>
>> 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 6

OK.

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cheers,
calvin

Calvin

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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:33:45 +1000, Stan Brown
<the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US
>> mainland?
>>
>> Pacific Time
>> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.
>>
>
> Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
> be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
> the mainland.

Source?

The Free Dictionary says otherwise:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Mainland+United+States

as does the Internal Revenue Code 2007 (P 3834).

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cheers,
calvin

Dan Tilque

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Jul 23, 2012, 1:01:42 AM7/23/12
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That link redirects to Continental US. I assume then that you equate "US
mainland" with "Continental US"?

>
> as does the Internal Revenue Code 2007 (P 3834).

I'll trump your IRS cite with the BGN:

http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/faqs.htm/ (see FAQ #25 or just search
for "Continental")

For the purposes of geographic names, the BGN (Board on Geographic
Names) is official, IRS misusages notwithstanding.


--
Dan Tilque

Calvin

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Jul 23, 2012, 12:49:56 AM7/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:01:42 +1000, Dan Tilque <dti...@frontier.com>
wrote:

> Calvin wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:33:45 +1000, Stan Brown
>> <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > 1 What name is given to the most westerly time zone on the US
>>>> mainland?
>>>>
>>>> Pacific Time
>>>> "The contiguous US states" would have been better wording.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking as someone who answered "Pacific", I think that should not
>>> be an acceptable answer. You said "mainland", and Alaska is part of
>>> the mainland.
>> Source?
>> The Free Dictionary says otherwise:
>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Mainland+United+States
>
> That link redirects to Continental US. I assume then that you equate "US
> mainland" with "Continental US"?

No. Or at least not necessarily. I genuinely don't know if there's a
difference.

>> as does the Internal Revenue Code 2007 (P 3834).
>
> I'll trump your IRS cite with the BGN:
>
> http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/faqs.htm/ (see FAQ #25 or just search
> for "Continental")
>
> For the purposes of geographic names, the BGN (Board on Geographic
> Names) is official, IRS misusages notwithstanding.

OK, but it doesn't use the term "mainland" anywhere as far as I could tell.

Does anyone have a definitive source? I'm happy to accept either answer
(ie Alaskan or Pacific) if not.

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cheers,
calvin

Calvin

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Jul 23, 2012, 12:50:39 AM7/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:41:13 +1000, Dan Tilque <dti...@frontier.com>
wrote:

> There are two official terms applicable here: Contiguous US (i.e. the
> old 48 states) and Continental US (Contiguous + Alaska). Upon hearing
> the term "US mainland" (which is not an official term), some people will
> think of one and some the other. Just happened in this quiz. So both
> should be given credit.

I'm inclined to take that view. Any objections?

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cheers,
calvin

Mark Brader

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Jul 23, 2012, 1:14:26 AM7/23/12
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"Calvin":
> I'm inclined to take that view. Any objections?

You heard two already. But it's your call.
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Calvin

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Jul 23, 2012, 1:43:12 AM7/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:14:26 +1000, Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> "Calvin":
>> I'm inclined to take that view. Any objections?
>
> You heard two already. But it's your call.

*Substantiated* objections.

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Mark Brader

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Jul 23, 2012, 2:06:01 AM7/23/12
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"Calvin":
> *Substantiated* objections.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mainland

# Definition of MAINLAND
#
# : a continent or the main part of a continent as distinguished from an
# offshore island or sometimes from a cape or peninsula

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Joachim Parsch

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Jul 23, 2012, 2:09:14 AM7/23/12
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Calvin schrieb:
> Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL Quiz 234
> - - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
> 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 Joachim Parsch

I gave no answer for Q2 and Q5. On the other hand, I think I gave a
correct answer on 3, 7 and 8. Maybe some mix-up?

Joachim

Dan Tilque

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Jul 23, 2012, 3:06:19 AM7/23/12
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Calvin wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:01:42 +1000, Dan Tilque <dti...@frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> The Free Dictionary says otherwise:
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Mainland+United+States
>>
>> That link redirects to Continental US. I assume then that you equate
>> "US mainland" with "Continental US"?
>
> No. Or at least not necessarily. I genuinely don't know if there's a
> difference.
>
>>> as does the Internal Revenue Code 2007 (P 3834).
>>
>> I'll trump your IRS cite with the BGN:
>>
>> http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/faqs.htm/ (see FAQ #25 or just
>> search for "Continental")
>>
>> For the purposes of geographic names, the BGN (Board on Geographic
>> Names) is official, IRS misusages notwithstanding.
>
> OK, but it doesn't use the term "mainland" anywhere as far as I could tell.

I assumed you were equating mainland with Continental, as I suggested
above. If not, then the cite has no relevance.

>
> Does anyone have a definitive source? I'm happy to accept either answer
> (ie Alaskan or Pacific) if not.
>

There's no official meaning to "US mainland" so there's no definitive
source.

Interesting bit of trivia: the name Alaska derives from the Aleut word
for "mainland".

BTW, the Wiki page for Contiguous United States has a subsection titled
"Continental United States". It does not mention that this term has an
official meaning. It needs to be updated about that. Anyone?

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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 23, 2012, 4:16:41 AM7/23/12
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Calvin (cal...@phlegm.com) writes:
> 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 4 Erland S

So I answered "Alaskan Time" which must be correct, whatever you intended
to ask. (And personally I don't think "Pacific" can be considered to
be correct. I was somewhat amused to see so many people from North
America to walk into that trap.)

Furthermore my answer to Q10 was "Harry was dead" which certainly is a
weaker story from those who knew the plot, but you say "He was dead /
unburied" in the results posting.

Gareth Owen

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Jul 23, 2012, 12:54:21 PM7/23/12
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Dan Tilque <dti...@frontier.com> writes:

>> Does anyone have a definitive source? I'm happy to accept either
>> answer (ie Alaskan or Pacific) if not.
>>
>
> There's no official meaning to "US mainland" so there's no definitive
> source.

QFT

Bruce Bowler

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Jul 23, 2012, 2:55:20 PM7/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin wrote:

I think you left one set of answers out (mine), which I would score

1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 === 6

Calvin

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Jul 23, 2012, 6:29:49 PM7/23/12
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:19:24 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:03 +1000, Calvin <cal...@phlegm.com> wrote:


Well I think I can better Mark's effort of 5 corrections in one post :-)

Here are the revised scores. Note that:

* Scores for Stan, Bruce and Jeffrey are now included.

* Erland's and Joachim's scores have been corrected.

* I'll now accept either Alaskan or Pacific for Q1 (What name is given to
the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?) having come to the
conclusion that the phrase "US mainland" is open to interpretation, if not
nonsensical.

So in the unlikely event that there are no more errors, here are the
revised sores:


Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q5 Q6 Q7 Q8 Q9 Q10 TOTAL Quiz 234
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 9 Joshua Kreitzer
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Marc Dashevsky
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 8 Mark Brader
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 7 Gareth Owen
1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 7 David Brown
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7 Rob Parker
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 7 Stan Brown
1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 7 Joachim Parsch
1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 6 John Masters
1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 6 Peter Smyth
1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 6 Erland S
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 6 Bruce Bowler
1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 5 Dan Tilque
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 Pete Gayde
1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 Jeffrey Turner
- - - - - - - - - - --- ----------
15 9 10 13 12 0 5 10 12 11 97 65%

Egad!

http://youtu.be/zrfjFqrUKgg

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calvin

Stan Brown

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Jul 23, 2012, 11:49:35 PM7/23/12
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That's just being insulting. Unless you maintain that Alaska is an
island ....

Calvin

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Jul 23, 2012, 11:55:44 PM7/23/12
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:49:35 +1000, Stan Brown
<the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:43:12 +1000, Calvin wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:14:26 +1000, Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
>>
>> > "Calvin":
>> >> I'm inclined to take that view. Any objections?
>> >
>> > You heard two already. But it's your call.
>>
>> *Substantiated* objections.
>
> That's just being insulting.

It's hardly unreasonable to expect people to do a bit of legwork to
support their position.

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calvin

Mark Brader

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Jul 24, 2012, 1:41:14 AM7/24/12
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"Calvin":
>>>>> Any objections?
>>> *Substantiated* objections.
> It's hardly unreasonable to expect people to do a bit of legwork to
> support their position.

Our position is that, since we both misinterpreted the question
(basically, seeing "mainland" and thinking "main part of"), we gave
the wrong answer. Why are you asking us to do legwork to prove it?
You're the one trying to accept a wrong answer.
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Toronto Every sentence is the result of a long probation."
m...@vex.net -- Henry David Thoreau, 1841

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Mark Brader

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Jul 24, 2012, 1:42:35 AM7/24/12
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"Calvin":
> * I'll now accept either Alaskan or Pacific for Q1 ...

By the way, it's Alaska, not Alaskan. Not that I imagine that this should
affect the scoring.
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Erland Sommarskog

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Jul 24, 2012, 3:50:49 AM7/24/12
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Calvin (cal...@phlegm.com) writes:
> * I'll now accept either Alaskan or Pacific for Q1 (What name is given to
> the most westerly time zone on the US mainland?) having come to the
> conclusion that the phrase "US mainland" is open to interpretation, if not
> nonsensical.

wwww.m-w.com says:

a continent or the main part of a continent as distinguished from an
offshore island or sometimes from a cape or peninsula

I guess it is open to interpretation whether Alaska is a cape or a
peninsula. Or at least the interpretation is sometimes open in Australia.

Calvin

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Jul 25, 2012, 7:39:38 PM7/25/12
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:41:14 +1000, Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> "Calvin":
>>>>>> Any objections?
>>>> *Substantiated* objections.
>> It's hardly unreasonable to expect people to do a bit of legwork to
>> support their position.
>
> Our position is that, since we both misinterpreted the question
> (basically, seeing "mainland" and thinking "main part of"), we gave
> the wrong answer. Why are you asking us to do legwork to prove it?

Fair enough :-)

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calvin
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