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Mark Brader

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Jun 4, 2018, 1:25:38 AM6/4/18
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2018-03-19,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of Bill Psychs and are
used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
my 2017-09-25 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


* Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts

In each case, name the martial art.

1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
to strike opponents.

3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.

4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.

5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.

7. This is a traditional Southern Chinese style of Wushu, or
Kung Fu. Notable practitioners included grandmaster Ip Man,
and his student Bruce Lee.

8. This is an internal Chinese style of Wushu, or Kung Fu, that is
practiced for both its defense training and its health benefits.
The philosophy of the martial art centers around the concept
of yin and yang.

9. This Afro-Brazilian martial art combines elements of dance,
acrobatics, and music. It was developed in Brazil at the
beginning of the 16th century, mainly by Angolan slaves.

10. This modern Japanese martial art was developed by Morihei
Ueshiba. The goal of the art is to defend yourself while
also protecting your attacker from injury. Steven Seagal
is a famous practitioner.


* Game 9, Round 8 - Science - Drugs

We will identify some common drugs by brand name and maybe some
other information, and you give the scientific or generic name
from the handout list:

| acetaminophen | fexofenadine
| acetylsalicylic acid | fluoxetine
| amlodipine | loratadine
| alprazolam | lorazepam
| atorvastatin | lovastatin
| bupropion | oxycodone
| chloral hydrate | perindopril
| chlorpheniramine | pyridoxine HCl
| citalopram | sertraline
| cyanocobalamin | sodium naproxen
| desipramine | tocopheryl acetate
| diamorphine | varenicline
| diphenhydramine

1. Aleve.

2. Ativan.

3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
active component of the original Benadryl?

4. Chlor-tripolon.

5. Claritin.

6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
it still has some medical uses.

7. Prozac.

8. Wellbutrin.

9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.

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Joshua Kreitzer

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Jun 4, 2018, 2:13:29 AM6/4/18
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:zeidnQmA76TQUInGnZ2dnUU7-
VXN...@giganews.com:

> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

aikido

> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.

kendo

> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

taekwondo

> 6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
> for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
> Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.

krav maga

> 7. This is a traditional Southern Chinese style of Wushu, or
> Kung Fu. Notable practitioners included grandmaster Ip Man,
> and his student Bruce Lee.

jeet kune do

> 8. This is an internal Chinese style of Wushu, or Kung Fu, that is
> practiced for both its defense training and its health benefits.
> The philosophy of the martial art centers around the concept
> of yin and yang.

tai chi

> 9. This Afro-Brazilian martial art combines elements of dance,
> acrobatics, and music. It was developed in Brazil at the
> beginning of the 16th century, mainly by Angolan slaves.

capoeira

> * Game 9, Round 8 - Science - Drugs
>
> We will identify some common drugs by brand name and maybe some
> other information, and you give the scientific or generic name
> from the handout list:
>
> 1. Aleve.

sodium naproxen

> 2. Ativan.

loratadine; fexofenadine

> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?

tocopheryl acetate; pyridoxine HCl

> 4. Chlor-tripolon.

chloral hydrate; chlorpheniramine

> 5. Claritin.

desipramine; diphenhydramine

> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.

diamorphine

> 7. Prozac.

fluoxetine

> 8. Wellbutrin.

amlodipine; bupropion

> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

atorvastatin

> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.

perindopril; lovastatin

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Peter Smyth

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Jun 4, 2018, 8:33:13 AM6/4/18
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Mark Brader wrote:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2018-03-19,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of Bill Psychs and are
> used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
> my 2017-09-25 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".
Judo
> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.
>
> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.
>
> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.
Kendo
> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.
>
> 6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
> for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
> Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.
>
> 7. This is a traditional Southern Chinese style of Wushu, or
> Kung Fu. Notable practitioners included grandmaster Ip Man,
> and his student Bruce Lee.
>
> 8. This is an internal Chinese style of Wushu, or Kung Fu, that is
> practiced for both its defense training and its health benefits.
> The philosophy of the martial art centers around the concept
> of yin and yang.
Tai Chi
Loratadine
> 4. Chlor-tripolon.
>
> 5. Claritin.
Loratadine
> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.
Diamorphine
> 7. Prozac.
Fluoxetine
> 8. Wellbutrin.
>
> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.
>
> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.


Peter Smyth

Dan Blum

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Jun 4, 2018, 9:59:39 AM6/4/18
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts

> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

judo; jiu-jitsu

> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.

muay thai

> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.

savate; capoeira

> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.

kendo

> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

tae kwan do

> 6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
> for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
> Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.

krav maga

> 7. This is a traditional Southern Chinese style of Wushu, or
> Kung Fu. Notable practitioners included grandmaster Ip Man,
> and his student Bruce Lee.

jeet kune do

> 8. This is an internal Chinese style of Wushu, or Kung Fu, that is
> practiced for both its defense training and its health benefits.
> The philosophy of the martial art centers around the concept
> of yin and yang.

tai chi

> 9. This Afro-Brazilian martial art combines elements of dance,
> acrobatics, and music. It was developed in Brazil at the
> beginning of the 16th century, mainly by Angolan slaves.

capoeira

> 10. This modern Japanese martial art was developed by Morihei
> Ueshiba. The goal of the art is to defend yourself while
> also protecting your attacker from injury. Steven Seagal
> is a famous practitioner.

jiu-jitsu; judo

> * Game 9, Round 8 - Science - Drugs

> 1. Aleve.

sodium naproxen

> 2. Ativan.

fexofenadine; fluoxetine

> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?

diphenhydramine

> 4. Chlor-tripolon.

chlorpheniramine; chloral hydrate

> 5. Claritin.

loratadine

> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.

diamorphine

> 7. Prozac.

alprazolam; lorazepam

> 8. Wellbutrin.

bupropion; perindopril

> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

atorvastatin; lovastatin

> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.

perindopril; varenicline

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"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

Pete Gayde

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:zeidnQmA76TQUInGnZ2dnUU7-
VXN...@giganews.com:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2018-03-19,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of Bill Psychs and are
> used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
> my 2017-09-25 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

Jiujitsu

>
> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.
>
> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.
>
> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.

Samurai
sodium naproxen; acetaminophen

>
> 2. Ativan.
>
> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?
>
> 4. Chlor-tripolon.
>
> 5. Claritin.
>
> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.
>
> 7. Prozac.

oxycodone

>
> 8. Wellbutrin.
>
> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

atorvastatin

>
> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.
>

Pete Gayde

Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

Jiu-jitsu

> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.

thai-boxing

> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

Taekwondo

> * Game 9, Round 8 - Science - Drugs
>
>
> 4. Chlor-tripolon.

chlorpheniramine

> 7. Prozac.

lorazepam

Dan Tilque

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Jun 6, 2018, 1:19:56 AM6/6/18
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Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

jujitsu

>
> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.
>
> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.
>
> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.
>
> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

taekwondo
acetaminophen

>
> 2. Ativan.
>
> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?

diphenhydramine

>
> 4. Chlor-tripolon.
>
> 5. Claritin.

lorazepam

>
> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.

diamorphine

>
> 7. Prozac.
>
> 8. Wellbutrin.
>
> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

lovastatin

>
> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.
>


--
Dan Tilque

Jason Kreitzer

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On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 1:25:38 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2018-03-19,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of Bill Psychs and are
> used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
> my 2017-09-25 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts
>
> In each case, name the martial art.
>
> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".
>
> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.
Muay Thai
> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.
Jiu-Jitsu
> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.
Kendo
> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.
Tae Kwan Do
> 6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
> for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
> Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.
Krav Maga
Acetaminophen
> 2. Ativan.
Citalopram
> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?
Perindopril
> 4. Chlor-tripolon.
Alprozalam
> 5. Claritin.
Lorazepam
> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.
Oxycodone?
> 7. Prozac.
Lovastatin
> 8. Wellbutrin.
>Bupropion
> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.
Sertraline
> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.
Desipramine

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2018-03-19,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2017-09-25 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


> * Game 9, Round 7 - Sports - Martial Arts

> In each case, name the martial art.

> 1. This modern Japanese martial art was developed in 1882 by
> Jigoro Kano. The art involves throwing, pinning, or submitting
> an opponent. The name translates as "the gentle way".

Judo. 4 for Peter. 3 for Dan Blum.

> 2. This combat sport from Thailand uses stand-up striking along
> with various clinching techniques. It is known as "the art of
> eight limbs" since the fists, elbows, knees, and shins are used
> to strike opponents.

Muay Thai. 4 for Dan Blum and Jason.

> 3. This Brazilian version of a Japanese martial art focuses on
> grappling and especially ground fighting. It was developed by
> brothers Carlos and Helio Gracie, and used to great effect in
> early UFC competitions by Helio's son Royce Gracie.

(Brazilian) jiu-jitsu. 4 for Jason.

> 4. This modern Japanese martial art is descended from swordsmanship.
> Bamboo swords and protective armor are used in its practise.

Kendo. 4 for Joshua, Peter, Dan Blum, and Jason.

> 5. This Korean martial art, developed during the 1940s and 1950s,
> is characterized by fast kicking techniques.

Taekwondo. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland, Dan Tilque, and Jason.

> 6. This military self-defence and fighting system was developed
> for the Israel Defense Forces and Israeli security forces by
> Emrich "Imi" Lichtenfeld.

Krav maga. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Jason.

> 7. This is a traditional Southern Chinese style of Wushu, or
> Kung Fu. Notable practitioners included grandmaster Ip Man,
> and his student Bruce Lee.

Wing chun.

Two entrants tried the answer jeet kune do. That is a derivative of
wing chun which was invented by Bruce Lee, so the part about Ip Man
is wrong for that answer.

> 8. This is an internal Chinese style of Wushu, or Kung Fu, that is
> practiced for both its defense training and its health benefits.
> The philosophy of the martial art centers around the concept
> of yin and yang.

Tai chi (or Taiji). 4 for Joshua, Peter, and Dan Blum.

> 9. This Afro-Brazilian martial art combines elements of dance,
> acrobatics, and music. It was developed in Brazil at the
> beginning of the 16th century, mainly by Angolan slaves.

Capoeira. 4 for Joshua and Dan Blum.

> 10. This modern Japanese martial art was developed by Morihei
> Ueshiba. The goal of the art is to defend yourself while
> also protecting your attacker from injury. Steven Seagal
> is a famous practitioner.

Aikido.


> * Game 9, Round 8 - Science - Drugs

> We will identify some common drugs by brand name and maybe some
> other information, and you give the scientific or generic name
> from the handout list:

> | acetaminophen | fexofenadine
> | acetylsalicylic acid | fluoxetine
> | amlodipine | loratadine
> | alprazolam | lorazepam
> | atorvastatin | lovastatin
> | bupropion | oxycodone
> | chloral hydrate | perindopril
> | chlorpheniramine | pyridoxine HCl
> | citalopram | sertraline
> | cyanocobalamin | sodium naproxen
> | desipramine | tocopheryl acetate
> | diamorphine | varenicline
> | diphenhydramine

> 1. Aleve.

Sodium naproxen. 4 for Joshua and Dan Blum. 3 for Pete.

> 2. Ativan.

Lorazepam.

> 3. Benadryl now has many variations and formulas. What was the
> active component of the original Benadryl?

Diphenhydramine. 4 for Dan Blum and Dan Tilque.

> 4. Chlor-tripolon.

Chlorpheniramine. 4 for Dan Blum and Erland. 2 for Joshua.

> 5. Claritin.

Loratadine. 4 for Peter and Dan Blum.

> 6. Heroin was a trademark name for the Bayer company in 1895.
> They were trying to develop a less addictive opiate for public
> use. (Oops.) Although not available over the counter any more,
> it still has some medical uses.

Diamorphine. 4 for Joshua, Peter, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.

> 7. Prozac.

Fluoxetine. 4 for Joshua and Peter.

> 8. Wellbutrin.

Bupropion. 3 for Dan Blum. 2 for Joshua.

> 9. Lipitor, a cholesterol medication.

Atorvastatin. 4 for Joshua and Pete. 3 for Dan Blum.

> 10. Norvasc, a blood-pressure medication.

Amlodipine.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 9 ROUNDS-> 2 4 5 3 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> Art Geo Aud Ent His Spo Sci FIVE
Joshua Kreitzer 17 31 20 32 32 20 20 135
Pete Gayde 29 28 40 20 16 0 7 133
Dan Blum 30 20 20 16 28 27 26 131
Peter Smyth 0 24 20 4 20 12 12 88
"Calvin" 22 19 20 12 12 -- -- 85
Jason Kreitzer 4 8 12 20 16 20 0 76
Erland Sommarskog 0 36 20 0 12 4 4 76
Dan Tilque 0 28 8 12 16 4 8 72

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