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Mark Brader

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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.

For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on
"Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".

In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current
in the question have changed since the question was written.
I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting
*tripled quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time
of the original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty
much any present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept
the answer that was correct when the question was originally asked.
If the facts have changed in such a way that a different answer is
now correct (rather than some other sort of change), I will also
accept the new correct answer -- unless there is an explicit note
requiring otherwise. See the companion posting for further details.


I did not originally write either of these rounds.


* Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history

1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
the battle *or* the French military leader.

2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
helped to build.

5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
*which group*, which it accused of heresy?

6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
moved -- to which French city?

8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
must be male?

9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
(which actually lasted 116 years) end?

10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?


* Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words

We'll tell you what sort of work something is, and whether it's
a translation, and we'll give you the first few lines. You just
give the title.

1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."

2. Popular science. "Intelligent life on a planet comes of age when
it first works out the reason for its own existence. If superior
creatures from space ever visit earth, the first question they
will ask, in order to assess the level of our civilization, is:
'Have they discovered evolution yet?'"

3. Play. We've shown the first four lines, spoken alternately by
two characters, whose names we have omitted along with most of
the stage directions.
"Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads."
"There is an art to the building up of suspense."
"Heads."
"Though it can be done by luck alone."

4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
family."

5. Novel. "I am doomed to remember a boy with a wrecked voice --
not because of his voice, or because he was the smallest person
I ever knew, or even because he was the instrument of my mother's
death, but because he is the reason I believe in God."

6. Current affairs / business / marketing. "The astronomical growth
in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national
corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be
traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed
by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful
corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to
products."

7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
arrested one fine morning."

8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
Michael Smith."

10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"

--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "I don't know about your brain,
m...@vex.net | but mine is really bossy." -- Laurie Anderson

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Joshua Kreitzer

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> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history
>
> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

Charles Martel; Battle of Tours

> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

Charlemagne

> 3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
> continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

Capet

> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

Catharians; Albigensians

> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

Parliament

> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon

> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?

Salic law

> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1441

> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Poitiers; Orleans

> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words
>
> We'll tell you what sort of work something is, and whether it's
> a translation, and we'll give you the first few lines. You just
> give the title.
>
> 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."

"The Autobiography of Malcolm X"

> 4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
> Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
> family."

"War and Peace"

> 5. Novel. "I am doomed to remember a boy with a wrecked voice --
> not because of his voice, or because he was the smallest person
> I ever knew, or even because he was the instrument of my mother's
> death, but because he is the reason I believe in God."

"A Prayer for Owen Meany"

> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

"The Trial"

> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

"The Tell-Tale Heart"

> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

"The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress"

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history
>
> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

Poitiers

> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

Charlemagne

> 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> helped to build.

Jesuits

> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

Cathars

> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

National Assembly

> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon

> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1430

> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Orléans


> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words
>
> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

The Process

Dan Blum

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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history

> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

Charles Martel

> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

Charlemagne

> 3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
> continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

Capetian

> 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> helped to build.

Dominican; Augustinian

> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

Albigensians

> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon

> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?

Salic

> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1450

> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Orleans

> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words

> 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."

The Autobiography of Malcolm X

> 3. Play. We've shown the first four lines, spoken alternately by
> two characters, whose names we have omitted along with most of
> the stage directions.
> "Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads."
> "There is an art to the building up of suspense."
> "Heads."
> "Though it can be done by luck alone."

Waiting for Godot; Rozencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

> 4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
> Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
> family."

War and Peace

> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

The Trial

> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

The Tell-Tale Heart

> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

Stranger in a Strange Land

> 10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
> on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
> my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"

Ramayana

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

swp

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On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 12:06:58 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
> and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
> by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
> may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
> correct answers in about 3 days.

noted

> For further information see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on
> "Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
>
> In some cases either the answers or the facts stated as current
> in the question have changed since the question was written.
> I've tried to call attention to such possibilities by inserting
> *tripled quotation marks* around words that were correct at the time
> of the original game -- for example, """now""" or """is""" (pretty
> much any present-tense verb may be marked). I will always accept
> the answer that was correct when the question was originally asked.
> If the facts have changed in such a way that a different answer is
> now correct (rather than some other sort of change), I will also
> accept the new correct answer -- unless there is an explicit note
> requiring otherwise. See the companion posting for further details.
>
>
> I did not originally write either of these rounds.
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history
>
> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

battle of tours ; charles martel

> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

charlemagne

> 3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
> continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

capet

> 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> helped to build.

peter the hermit

> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

cathars

> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

estates general

> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

avignon? (he killed off the knights templar, right?)

> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?

estates general

> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1453

> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

orleans

>
> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words
>
> We'll tell you what sort of work something is, and whether it's
> a translation, and we'll give you the first few lines. You just
> give the title.
>
> 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."

malcolm x

> 2. Popular science. "Intelligent life on a planet comes of age when
> it first works out the reason for its own existence. If superior
> creatures from space ever visit earth, the first question they
> will ask, in order to assess the level of our civilization, is:
> 'Have they discovered evolution yet?'"

the selfish gene

> 3. Play. We've shown the first four lines, spoken alternately by
> two characters, whose names we have omitted along with most of
> the stage directions.
> "Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads."
> "There is an art to the building up of suspense."
> "Heads."
> "Though it can be done by luck alone."

rosenkrantz and guilderstern are dead

> 4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
> Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
> family."

war and peace

> 5. Novel. "I am doomed to remember a boy with a wrecked voice --
> not because of his voice, or because he was the smallest person
> I ever knew, or even because he was the instrument of my mother's
> death, but because he is the reason I believe in God."

a prayer for owen meany

> 6. Current affairs / business / marketing. "The astronomical growth
> in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national
> corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be
> traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed
> by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful
> corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to
> products."

no logo

> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

the trial

> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

the tell tale heart

> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

stranger in a strange land

> 10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
> on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
> my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"

the baghavat gita

> --
> Mark Brader, Toronto | "I don't know about your brain,
> m...@vex.net | but mine is really bossy." -- Laurie Anderson
>
> My text in this article is in the public domain.

swp

Pete Gayde

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Knights Templar

>
> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?
>
> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon

>
> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?
>
> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?
>
> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Orleans
The Gulag Archipelago

>
> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."
>
> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

The Martian Chronicles

>
> 10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
> on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
> my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"
>

Pete Gayde

Dan Tilque

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On 7/17/20 9:06 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history
>
> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

Battle of Tours

>
> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

Charlemagne

>
> 3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
> continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

Carolingian

>
> 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> helped to build.
>
> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

Albigensians

>
> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

Parliament

>
> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon

>
> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?

Salic Law

>
> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1442

>
> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Orleans

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words
>
> We'll tell you what sort of work something is, and whether it's
> a translation, and we'll give you the first few lines. You just
> give the title.
>
> 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."
>
> 2. Popular science. "Intelligent life on a planet comes of age when
> it first works out the reason for its own existence. If superior
> creatures from space ever visit earth, the first question they
> will ask, in order to assess the level of our civilization, is:
> 'Have they discovered evolution yet?'"

Dragons of Eden

>
> 3. Play. We've shown the first four lines, spoken alternately by
> two characters, whose names we have omitted along with most of
> the stage directions.
> "Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads."
> "There is an art to the building up of suspense."
> "Heads."
> "Though it can be done by luck alone."
>
> 4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
> Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
> family."

The Prince

>
> 5. Novel. "I am doomed to remember a boy with a wrecked voice --
> not because of his voice, or because he was the smallest person
> I ever knew, or even because he was the instrument of my mother's
> death, but because he is the reason I believe in God."
>
> 6. Current affairs / business / marketing. "The astronomical growth
> in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national
> corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be
> traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed
> by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful
> corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to
> products."
>
> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

Les Miserables

>
> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

>
> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

Stranger in a Strange Land

>
> 10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
> on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
> my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"

Rig Veda

--
Dan Tilque

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-02-05,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


> I did not originally write either of these rounds.


> * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history

> 1. In 732 a famous battle was fought in which Frankish and
> Burgundian troops defeated Muslim forces from Spain. Name
> the battle *or* the French military leader.

Battle of Tours (or Poitiers); Charles "the Hammer" Martel.
4 for Joshua (the hard way), Erland, Dan Blum, Stephen (the hard
way), and Dan Tilque.

> 2. Who was the King of the Franks from 768 to 814?

Charlemagne (Charles the Great). 4 for Joshua, Erland, Dan Blum,
Stephen, and Dan Tilque.

> 3. Which dynasty of French Kings began with Hugh in 987 and
> continued until the death of Charles IV in 1328?

Capetian. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> helped to build.

(St.) Bernard (of Clairvaux); Cistercian order.

> 5. Starting in 1208 the Catholic church brought a crusade against
> *which group*, which it accused of heresy?

Cathars (or Albigensians). 4 for Joshua (the hard way), Erland,
Dan Blum, Stephen, and Dan Tilque.

> 6. Which French legislative assembly was first called in 1302 by
> Philip IV, consisting of a council of nobles that he hoped
> would assist him in a dispute with the Pope?

Estates-General (or States-General). 4 for Stephen.

> 7. Some of Philip's machinations must have succeeded, since a few
> years later his supporter Clement V became Pope, and the papacy
> moved -- to which French city?

Avignon. 4 for everyone -- Joshua, Erland, Dan Blum, Stephen,
Pete, and Dan Tilque.

> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> must be male?

Salic Law. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.

The wrong answer "primogeniture" given in the original game led to
a protest, and I'm reproducing the ruling on that one here because
it's kind of interesting:

This word has two meanings: it's either the rule that the firstborn
son inherits, or the rule that the firstborn child inherits.
It's not a "body of law", and it doesn't say what happens if there
is no such child; for example, in some cases when primogeniture
is the rule, nobody would inherit. In this case the previous
king had no son and Philip V was his uncle. Protest denied.

This is kind of an interesting story, so here's a bit more detail.
King Louis X died in June 1316. He had a daughter, Jeanne,
and his wife Clemence was pregnant. There was some question of
whether Salic Law was the correct body of law to apply to the
inheritance; if not, Jeanne might have become queen. But in
the end it was decided that Salic Law did apply, and that meant
females were completely ineligible.

However, a posthumous son *was* eligible to inherit, so the throne
remained vacant until November when Clemence gave birth. When the
child proved to be a boy, he became King John/Jean I at birth.
But he only lived 5 days. As the new king had died without issue,
and Jeanne was still ineligible under Salic Law, the throne now
passed to Louis's brother, John's uncle, who became Philip V.

> 9. Within 10 years on either side, when did the 100 Years' War
> (which actually lasted 116 years) end?

1453 (accepting 1443-1463). 4 for Dan Blum and Stephen.

> 10. Joan of Arc became a French heroine for being instrumental in
> lifting the English siege of what city, in 1429?

Orléans. 4 for Erland, Dan Blum, Stephen, Pete, and Dan Tilque.
2 for Joshua.


> * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words

> We'll tell you what sort of work something is, and whether it's
> a translation, and we'll give you the first few lines. You just
> give the title.

> 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."

"The Autobiography of Malcolm X" (as told to Alex Haley).
I reluctnatly scored "Malcom X" as almost correct since it was
the important part of the title. 4 for Joshua and Dan Blum.
3 for Stephen.

> 2. Popular science. "Intelligent life on a planet comes of age when
> it first works out the reason for its own existence. If superior
> creatures from space ever visit earth, the first question they
> will ask, in order to assess the level of our civilization, is:
> 'Have they discovered evolution yet?'"

"The Selfish Gene" (by Richard Dawkins). 4 for Stephen.

> 3. Play. We've shown the first four lines, spoken alternately by
> two characters, whose names we have omitted along with most of
> the stage directions.
> "Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads. (pause) Heads."
> "There is an art to the building up of suspense."
> "Heads."
> "Though it can be done by luck alone."

"Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead" (by Tom Stoppard).
4 for Stephen. 2 for Dan Blum.

> 4. Novel, in translation. "Eh bien, mon prince, so Genoa and
> Lucca are now no more than private estates of the Bonaparte
> family."

"War and Peace" ("Voyna i Mir", by Leo Tolstoy). 4 for Joshua,
Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 5. Novel. "I am doomed to remember a boy with a wrecked voice --
> not because of his voice, or because he was the smallest person
> I ever knew, or even because he was the instrument of my mother's
> death, but because he is the reason I believe in God."

"A Prayer for Owen Meany" (by John Irving). 4 for Joshua and Stephen.

> 6. Current affairs / business / marketing. "The astronomical growth
> in the wealth and cultural influence of multi-national
> corporations over the last fifteen years can arguably be
> traced back to a single, seemingly innocuous idea developed
> by management theorists in the mid-1980s: that successful
> corporations must primarily produce brands, as opposed to
> products."

"No Logo" (by Naomi Klein). I acceped "No Label" as almost correct.
4 for Stephen.

> 7. Novel, in translation. "Someone must have been telling lies
> about Joseph K., for without having done anything wrong he was
> arrested one fine morning."

"The Trial" ("Der Prozess", by Franz Kafka). I did not accept
an English translation of a different sense of the German word.
4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Stephen.

> 8. Short story. "True! -- nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I
> had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease
> had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them.
> Above all was my sense of hearing acute. I heard all things
> in heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell."

"The Tell-Tale Heart" (by Edgar Allan Poe). 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Stephen.

> 9. Novel. "Once upon a time there was a Martian named Valentine
> Michael Smith."

"Stranger in a Strange Land" (by Robert A. Heinlein). 4 for Dan Blum,
Stephen, and Dan Tilque.

> 10. Sacred literature, in translation. "On the field of Truth,
> on the battle-field of life, what came to pass, Sanjaya, when
> my sons and their warriors faced those of my brother Pandu?"

The "(Bhagavad-)Gita". 4 for Stephen.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 TOTALS
TOPICS-> His Lit
Stephen Perry 32 39 71
Dan Blum 32 22 54
Joshua Kreitzer 26 20 46
Dan Tilque 24 4 28
Erland Sommarskog 20 0 20
Pete Gayde 8 0 8

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swp

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On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 10:53:55 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
> > * Game 3, Round 2 - History - Early French history
> > 4. In 1115 a French monk became abbot of a monastery that was to
> > become highly influential in a reformist order that had split
> > from the Benedictines. Name this monk *or* the order that he
> > helped to build.
>
> (St.) Bernard (of Clairvaux); Cistercian order.

bah! a dog of a question.

> > 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
> > the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
> > controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
> > must be male?
>
> Salic Law. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.

I protest. the question asked for the body of law, not the law itself. the estates-general wrote and implemented salic law.

> > * Game 3, Round 3 - Literature - Famous First Words
> > 1. Autobiography. "When my mother was pregnant with me, she told
> > me later, a party of hooded Ku Klux Klan riders galloped up to
> > our home in Omaha, Nebraska, one night."
>
> "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" (as told to Alex Haley).
> I reluctnatly scored "Malcom X" as almost correct since it was
> the important part of the title. 4 for Joshua and Dan Blum.
> 3 for Stephen.

I protest. you gave us 'autobiography' in the question, it is implied.

> Scores, if there are no errors:

see above

> Mark Brader | "Ooh, righteous indignation -- a bold choice!
> Toronto | I myself would start with dismay and *work my way up*
> m...@vex.net | to righteous indignation." --Murphy Brown
>
> My text in this article is in the public domain.

swp, who started this post with righteous indignation and fears he will end in dismay

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Mark Brader:
>>> 8. Philip V became king in 1316. His succession was secured by
>>> the invocation of what body of law -- which, among other less
>>> controversial measures, dictated that the heir to the throne
>>> must be male?
>>
>> Salic Law. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.

Stephen Perry:
> I protest. the question asked for the body of law, not the law itself.
> the estates-general wrote and implemented salic law.

But it didn't ask *whose* body of law. Denied.

>> "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" (as told to Alex Haley).
>> I reluctnatly scored "Malcom X" as almost correct since it was
>> the important part of the title. 4 for Joshua and Dan Blum.
>> 3 for Stephen.
>
> I protest. you gave us 'autobiography' in the question, it is implied.

It didn't ask *whose* autobiography. They don't all have that word in
the title. Denied.


>> Mark Brader | "Ooh, righteous indignation -- a bold choice!
>> Toronto | I myself would start with dismay and *work my way up*
>> m...@vex.net | to righteous indignation." --Murphy Brown
>>
>> My text in this article is in the public domain.
>
> swp, who started this post with righteous indignation and fears he will
> end in dismay

Could be.
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