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Mark Brader
Oct 15, 2020, 12:29:06 AM10/15/20
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-03-26,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.
For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2020-06-23
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
I wrote both of these rounds.
** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
Just in case you're way behind in the game at this point, don't
worry, you may still be able to win -- because this is a bonus round.
This is a geography round, and the way it works is that in each
question we will name six places. We'll list them in alphabetical
order, and we'll ask you for the largest, or the tallest, or some
such extreme. Of course that means the extreme *among the six
places on the list*.
In fact, we don't just want the most extreme, we want the *three*
most extreme, if you can do it.
For each question you should give 3 answer-parts in order --
naming what you think are the #1, #2, and #3 ranked entries from
the we give list. *But only the #1 part of the answer counts for
the regular score* -- the others are attempts at a 2-point bonus.
(You could choose to omit #2 and #3, but there's no advantage to
that, and it is a multiple-choice round.)
In addition, you have the usual opportunity to give a second guess.
To avoid any confusion, on your second guess you should also give
or not the #1 part of your answer is the same in the two guesses, as
follows (view the table in a monospaced font for proper alignment):
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| | all 3 parts | #1 part correct |
| | correct | but not both |
| | and in order | #2 & #3 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| Only one 3-part answer | | |
| given | 6 | 4 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| Either of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part the same in both | 5 | 4 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| 1st of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part different | 5 | 3 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| 2nd of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part different | 4 | 2 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
Got all that? Okay, here we go.
*Note*: For some questions the order of the list may have changed.
If you want to give the answer as of 2020, then *you must say*
you are doing that. If you make a second guess then it must be
for the same time period.
1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
*Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
building complexes are better known than the individual building
names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
Washington.
** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
of picking a category.
* A. Gray Coach
A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
public transportation company, but retained its name.
Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
identity. Name either buyer.
* B. "Gray's Anatomy"
In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
*or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
but the others still apply.
B1. Where in the body would you find this?
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
B2. Your question is: what body part is this?
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray2.jpg
* C. "Grey's Anatomy"
C1. Who """plays""" the title character on "Grey's Anatomy"?
C2. What's the name of the character who """is""" played by
Sandra Oh?
* D. Grey Cup
D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
*other* than the Argonauts.
D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
Who won?
* E. Black, White, and Gray
E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
Vietnam. Name him.
* F. The Blue and the Gray
F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
in what *city*?
F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
person, place.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "(...and partly because it's more fun to
m...@vex.net | let you think I'm insane.)" --Steve Summit
My text in this article is in the public domain.
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Usual Suspects, but have been reformatted and
may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
correct answers in about 3 days.
For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2020-06-23
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
I wrote both of these rounds.
** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
Just in case you're way behind in the game at this point, don't
worry, you may still be able to win -- because this is a bonus round.
This is a geography round, and the way it works is that in each
question we will name six places. We'll list them in alphabetical
order, and we'll ask you for the largest, or the tallest, or some
such extreme. Of course that means the extreme *among the six
places on the list*.
In fact, we don't just want the most extreme, we want the *three*
most extreme, if you can do it.
For each question you should give 3 answer-parts in order --
naming what you think are the #1, #2, and #3 ranked entries from
the we give list. *But only the #1 part of the answer counts for
the regular score* -- the others are attempts at a 2-point bonus.
(You could choose to omit #2 and #3, but there's no advantage to
that, and it is a multiple-choice round.)
In addition, you have the usual opportunity to give a second guess.
To avoid any confusion, on your second guess you should also give
or not the #1 part of your answer is the same in the two guesses, as
follows (view the table in a monospaced font for proper alignment):
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| | all 3 parts | #1 part correct |
| | correct | but not both |
| | and in order | #2 & #3 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| Only one 3-part answer | | |
| given | 6 | 4 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| Either of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part the same in both | 5 | 4 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| 1st of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part different | 5 | 3 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
| 2nd of two guesses with | | |
| #1 part different | 4 | 2 |
+------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
Got all that? Okay, here we go.
*Note*: For some questions the order of the list may have changed.
If you want to give the answer as of 2020, then *you must say*
you are doing that. If you make a second guess then it must be
for the same time period.
1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
*Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
building complexes are better known than the individual building
names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
Washington.
** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
of picking a category.
* A. Gray Coach
A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
public transportation company, but retained its name.
Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
identity. Name either buyer.
* B. "Gray's Anatomy"
In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
*or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
but the others still apply.
B1. Where in the body would you find this?
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
B2. Your question is: what body part is this?
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray2.jpg
* C. "Grey's Anatomy"
C1. Who """plays""" the title character on "Grey's Anatomy"?
C2. What's the name of the character who """is""" played by
Sandra Oh?
* D. Grey Cup
D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
*other* than the Argonauts.
D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
Who won?
* E. Black, White, and Gray
E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
Vietnam. Name him.
* F. The Blue and the Gray
F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
in what *city*?
F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
person, place.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "(...and partly because it's more fun to
m...@vex.net | let you think I'm insane.)" --Steve Summit
My text in this article is in the public domain.
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Joshua Kreitzer
Oct 15, 2020, 3:44:57 AM10/15/20
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Note: In case my post appears twice, this post has exactly the same answers as the original one.
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:oPudnSoyGLyRTRrCnZ2dnUU7-
X_N...@giganews.com:
> ** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
>
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
Buffalo, Rochester, Albany
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
China, Australia, India
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
Vatican City, Monaco, San Marino
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
guess #1: Taipei 101, Petronas Towers, Sears Tower
guess #2: Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, Sears Tower
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
New Guinea, Baffin I., Honshu
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
guess #1: L. Huron, L. Erie, Great Slave L.
guess #2: Great Slave L. Great Bear L., L. Huron
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
Copenhagen, Denmark; London, England; Edmonton, Alberta
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
Greyhound
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
>
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
Karsh
> E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
> was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
> being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
> believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
> graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
> Vietnam. Name him.
Capa
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
>
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
Charleston, S.C.
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:oPudnSoyGLyRTRrCnZ2dnUU7-
X_N...@giganews.com:
> ** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
>
> 1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
guess #2: Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, Sears Tower
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
guess #2: Great Slave L. Great Bear L., L. Huron
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> * A. Gray Coach
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
Greyhound
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
>
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
> E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
> was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
> being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
> believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
> graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
> Vietnam. Name him.
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
>
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Bruce Bowler
Oct 15, 2020, 10:25:12 AM10/15/20
to
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York State:
> Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> have a main structure that includes a decorative extension above the
> highest floor; as usual, these do count, but antennas do not.
> Chrysler Building, Empire State Building, First Canadian Place,
> Petronas Towers (in Kuala Lumpur), Sears Tower, Taipei 101.
Taipei, Petronas, Sears Tower
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may include
> additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I., Honshu, New
> Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
>
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in this
> week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected to know
> the difference between them based on your own trivial knowledge of
> spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format it doesn't matter,
> since you're answering all the questions instead of picking a category.
>
> * A. Gray Coach
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish public
> transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch of an
> American-owned company, and now lost its distinct identity. Name
> either buyer.
>
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
>
> In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this pair
> are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition of 'Gray's
> Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
> On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical term,
> or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close), *or* ... by
> pointing to yourself!"
>
> In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
> but the others still apply.
>
> B1. Where in the body would you find this?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
The sternum
>
> * C. "Grey's Anatomy"
>
>
> * E. Black, White, and Gray>
>
> * E. Black, White, and Gray>
>
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
>
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
Charleston, SC
>
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09. Either
> name the general who surrendered and the one that he surrendered
> to, or else name the place and one of the two men. That is, give
> *two out of three* answers: person, person, place.
Dan Blum
Oct 15, 2020, 10:36:39 AM10/15/20
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> 1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
Manulife Centre, Scotia Plaza, First Canadian Place
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, Sears Tower
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
New Guinea, Honshu, Baffin Island
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
> * A. Gray Coach
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
Grand Trunk Railroad; Canadian Pacific Railroad
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
sternum
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Erland Sommarskog
Oct 15, 2020, 2:25:42 PM10/15/20
to
> 1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
Buffalo, Rochester, Albany
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> * A. Gray Coach
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
Greyhound
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
>
Spine
> D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
> *other* than the Argonauts.
> D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
> their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
> Who won?
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
Dan Tilque
Oct 16, 2020, 3:20:09 PM10/16/20
to
Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco
>
>
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
Buffalo, Rochester, Albany
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
>
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
>
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
Vatican City, Monaco, San Marino
>
>
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
>
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
>
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, Sears Tower
>
>
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
New Guinea, Baffin I., Newfoundland
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
>
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
>
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
>
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
>
>
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
> this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
> to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
> knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
> it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
> of picking a category.
>
> * A. Gray Coach
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
>
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
>
>
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
>
> In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
> pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
> of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
> On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
> term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
> *or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
>
> In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
> but the others still apply.
>
> B1. Where in the body would you find this?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
sternum
>
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
--
Dan Tilque
Pete Gayde
Oct 17, 2020, 12:38:30 PM10/17/20
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>
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
>
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
>
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
Vatican City, Monaco, San Marino
>
>
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
Manulife Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Commerce Court
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
>
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Gnyyrfg ohvyqvat. Fbzr bs gurfr
> unir n znva fgehpgher gung vapyhqrf n qrpbengvir rkgrafvba nobir
> gur uvturfg sybbe; nf hfhny, gurfr qb pbhag, ohg nagraanf qb abg.
> Puelfyre Ohvyqvat, Rzcver Fgngr Ohvyqvat, Svefg Pnanqvna Cynpr,
> Crgebanf Gbjref (va Xhnyn Yhzche), Frnef Gbjre, Gnvcrv 101.
Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, Sears Tower
>
>
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
New Guinea, Baffin Island, Honshu
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
>
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
>
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
>
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
>
>
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
>
> At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
> this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
> to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
> knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
> it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
> of picking a category.
>
> * A. Gray Coach
>
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
>
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
>
>
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
>
> In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
> pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
> of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
> On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
> term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
> *or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
>
> In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
> but the others still apply.
>
> B1. Where in the body would you find this?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
Tailbone
>
>
> * C. "Grey's Anatomy"
>
> C1. Who """plays""" the title character on "Grey's Anatomy"?
>
> C2. What's the name of the character who """is""" played by
> Sandra Oh?
>
>
> * D. Grey Cup
>
> D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
> *other* than the Argonauts.
>
> D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
> their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
> Who won?
>
>
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
>
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
>
> E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
> was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
> being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
> believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
> graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
> Vietnam. Name him.
>
>
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
>
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
>
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
>
Pete Gayde
Mark Brader
Oct 18, 2020, 12:17:07 AM10/18/20
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Mark Brader:
congratulations, eh?
> I wrote both of these rounds.
> ** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
> Just in case you're way behind in the game at this point, don't
> worry, you may still be able to win -- because this is a bonus round.
Even without counting the bonus points, in the original game this
was the easiest round after the current-events round, and was the
fourth-easiest of the entire season if current-events rounds are
ignored.
> This is a geography round, and the way it works is that in each
> question we will name six places. We'll list them in alphabetical
> order, and we'll ask you for the largest, or the tallest, or some
> such extreme. Of course that means the extreme *among the six
> places on the list*.
> In fact, we don't just want the most extreme, we want the *three*
> most extreme, if you can do it.
> For each question you should give 3 answer-parts in order --
> naming what you think are the #1, #2, and #3 ranked entries from
> the we give list. *But only the #1 part of the answer counts for
> the regular score* -- the others are attempts at a 2-point bonus.
> (You could choose to omit #2 and #3, but there's no advantage to
> that, and it is a multiple-choice round.)
> In addition, you have the usual opportunity to give a second guess.
> To avoid any confusion, on your second guess you should also give
Sorry, a line was accidentally deleted at this point:
| #1, #2, and #3 answers in order. The scoring will depend on whether
> or not the #1 part of your answer is the same in the two guesses, as
> follows (view the table in a monospaced font for proper alignment):
I don't think the error caused anyone any trouble.
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | | all 3 parts | #1 part correct |
> | | correct | but not both |
> | | and in order | #2 & #3 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | Only one 3-part answer | | |
> | given | 6 | 4 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | Either of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part the same in both | 5 | 4 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | 1st of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part different | 5 | 3 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | 2nd of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part different | 4 | 2 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
I had to do this special scoring by hand, so please let me know if
you think I got it wrong.
> Got all that? Okay, here we go.
For those interested, in addition to the answers I'll give the data
tables that this round was constructed from. On questions #1-8, I'll
show the top 10 or so places from the complete list in each ranking,
plus any ones used in the question that don't rank that high.
Obviously, in each case the numbering on the left is the one we
asked about.
> *Note*: For some questions the order of the list may have changed.
> If you want to give the answer as of 2020, then *you must say*
> you are doing that. If you make a second guess then it must be
> for the same time period.
Somewhat to my surprise, nobody chose to use the more recent data.
But in fact none of the answers have changed except that one building
was renamed, and I'm not worrying about that; some of the supporting
details shown below have changed, though.
> 1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco. 6 for Joshua, Erland,
and Dan Tilque. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Pete.
The US Census Bureau actually uses long names like "New York -
Northern New Jersey - Long Island"; we'll keep them short here.
In the 2010 census they put San Jose and San Francisco into two
separate metropolitan answers, but since the question specified
"including San Jose", I've totaled the two metropolitan populations.
2007 details (based on 2000):
New York 21,199,865 (#1 in USA)
1. Los Angeles 16,373,645 (#2)
2. Chicago 9,157,540 (#3)
Washington - Baltimore 7,608,070 (#4)
3. San Francisco - San Jose 7,039,362 (#5)
Philadelphia 6,188,463 (#6)
Boston 5,819,100 (#7)
Detroit 5,456,428 (#8)
Dallas 5,221,801 (#9)
Houston 4,669,571 (#10)
4. Atlanta 4,112,198 (#11)
5. Miami - Ft. Lauderdale 3,876,380 (#12)
Seattle 3,554,760 (#13)
6. Phoenix 3,251,876 (#14)
2020 details (based on 2010):
New York 18,897,109 (#1)
1. Los Angeles 12,828,837 (#2)
2. Chicago 9,461,105 (#3)
Dallas 6,366,542 (#4)
3. San Francisco - San Jose 6,172,302 (#11+#34)
Philadelphia 5,965,343 (#5)
Houston 5,920,416 (#6)
Washington 5,649,540 (#7)
4. Miami - Ft. Lauderdale 5,564,635 (#8)
5. Atlanta 5,286,728 (#9)
Boston 4,552,402 (#10)
San Francisco - Oakland 4,335,391 (#11)
Detroit 4,296,250 (#12)
Riverside - San Bernardino 4,224,851 (#13)
6. Phoenix 4,192,887 (#14)
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
Buffalo, Rochester, Albany. 6 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.
The top 10 cities are unchanged between the two censuses:
[2000] [2010]
New York 8,008,278 8,175,133 (#1 in state)
1. Buffalo 292,648 261,310 (#2)
2. Rochester 219,773 210,565 (#3)
Yonkers 196,086 195,976 (#4)
Syracuse 147,306 145,170 (#5)
3. Albany 95,658 97,856 (#6)
New Rochelle 72,182 77,062 (#7)
Mount Vernon 68,381 67,292 (#8)
Schenectady 61,821 66,135 (#9)
4. Utica 60,651 62,235 (#10)
5th of the possible answers is Niagara Falls with 55,593 in 2000
(#11 in state), 50,193 in 2010 (#12). 6th is Ithaca with 29,287
in 2000 (#21), 30,014 in 2010 (#20).
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
China, Australia, India. 6 for Joshua, Erland, and Da Tilque.
4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Pete.
For questions #3-4, areas in km² are shown according to the CIA
World Factbook. This source erroneously includes offshore water
claims for the the US to make it appear larger than China, but the
question didn't ask about the US.
[circa 2007] [2020]
Russia 17,075,200 17,098,242 (#1 in world)
Canada 9,984,670 9,984,670 (#2)
United States 9,631,420 9,833,517 (#3)
1. China 9,596,960 9,596,960 (#4)
Brazil 8,511,965 8,515,770 (#5)
2. Australia 7,686,850 7,741,220 (#6)
3. India 3,287,590 3,287,263 (#7)
Argentina 2,766,890 2,780,400 (#8)
Kazakhstan 2,717,300 2,724,900 (#9)
4->6. Sudan 2,505,810 1,861,484 (was #10, now #15)
5->4. Algeria 2,381,740 2,381,740 (#11 -> #10)
Dem. Rep. Congo 2,345,410 2,344,858 (#12 -> #11)
Saudi Arabia 2,149,690 2,149,690 (#13 -> #12)
6->5. Mexico 1,972,550 1,964,375 (#14 -> #13)
Indonesia 1,919,440 1,904,569 (#15 -> #14)
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
Vatican City, Monaco, San Marino. 6 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Pete.
5 for Bruce. 4 for Dan Blum and Erland.
Here I'm only showing the data from 2020. There's been no change
that comes close to affecting the answer.
1. Vatican City 0.44 (#1 in world)
2. Monaco 2 (#2)
Nauru 21 (#3)
Tuvalu 26 (#4)
3. San Marino 61 (#5)
Liechtenstein 160 (#6)
Marshall Is. 181 (#7)
St. Kitts & Nevis 261 (#8)
Maldives 298 (#9)
4. Malta 316 (#10)
...
5. Andorra 468 (#16)
...
6. Luxembourg 2,586 (#27)
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
First Canadian Place, Scotia Plaza, Commerce Court.
For questions 5-6: Heights are shown in meters; the number of floors
is shown after that for interest. Data according to www.emporis.com,
but this source lists only the top 20 tallest buildings in Toronto and
the ones that were #7-10 in the city are no longer on their list.
1. First Canadian Place 298 72 (#1 in city)
2. Scotia Plaza 275 68 (was #2, now #3)
BCE Place - Canada Trust Tower 261 53 (#3 -> #5)
3. Commerce Court West 239 57 (#4 -> #7)
4. TD Centre - TD Bank Tower 223 56 (#5 -> #14)
BCE Place - Bay Wellington Tower 208 49 (#6 -> #19)
TD Centre - Royal Trust Tower 183 46 (was #7)
5. Royal Bank Plaza South 180 40 (was #8)
1 King St. W. 176 51 (was #9)
6. Manulife Centre - 44 Charles St. W. 166 51 (was #10)
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
5 for Joshua.
The emporis.com site lists only the top 200 tallest in the world.
First Canadian Place no longer makes that list at all, and the top 10
have completely changed since this game was written.
1. Taipei 101, Taipei 509 101 (was #1 in world, now #11)
2. Petronas Tower 1, Kuala Lumpur 452 88 (#2/3 -> #20/21)
Petronas Tower 2, Kuala Lumpur 452 88 (#2/3 -> #20/21)
3. Sears (now Willis) Tower, Chicago 442 108 (#4 -> #23)
Jin Mao Tower, Shanghai 421 88 (#5 -> #33)
2 International Finance, Hong Kong 415 88 (#6 -> #34)
CITIC Plaza, Guangzhou 391 80 (#7 -> #42)
Shun Hing Square, Shenzhen 384 69 (#8 -> #47)
4. Empire State Building, New York City 381 102 (#9 -> #50)
Central Plaza, Hong Kong 374 78 (#10 -> #53)
...
5. Chrysler Building, New York City 319 77 (#23 -> #136)
...
6. First Canadian Place, Toronto 298 72 (was #37)
For your interest, the top 10 in the world are now:
Burj Khalifa, Dubai 828 163 (#1)
Shanghai Tower, Shanghai 632 128 (#2)
Makkah Clock Royal Tower, Makkah 601 120 (#3)
Ping An Int'l Finance Ctr., Shenzhen 599 116 (#4)
Goldin Finance 117, Tianjin 597 117 (#5)
Lotte World Tower, Seoul 554 123 (#6)
1 World Trade Center, New York City 541 104 (#7)
CTF Finance Centre, Guangzhou 530 111 (#8)
Tianjin CTF Finance Centre, Tianjin 530 97 (#9)
CITIC Tower, Beijing 528 108 (#10)
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
New Guinea, Baffin I., Honshu. 6 for Joshua and Pete. 4 for
Dan Blum, Erland, and Dan Tilque.
For questions #7-8: areas in km² are shown according to Wikipedia
as it read at the time we constructed the round, and as it read
when I was updating the round in 2020 for reposting.
[2007] [2020]
Greenland 2,130,800 2,130,800 (#1 in world)
1. New Guinea 785,753 785,753 (#2)
Borneo 748,168 748,168 (#3)
Madagascar 587,713 587,041 (#4)
2. Baffin I. 507,451 507,451 (#5)
Sumatra 443,066 443,065 (#6)
3. Honshu 225,800 225,800 (#7)
Great Britain 218,595 209,331 (was #8, now #9)
Victoria I. 217,291 217,291 (#9 -> #8)
Ellesmere I. 196,236 196,236 (#10)
...
4. Newfoundland 108,860 108,860 (#16)
...
5. Tasmania 64,519 65,022 (#26)
...
6. Sicily 25,662 25,711 (#45)
No, I don't know why Wikipedia shrank Great Britain by over 3,500
square miles. Looking at the edit history, it changed in 2008 and
no source was cited for the old area, so probably it had been wrong
for some time before that and is now right.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
L. Huron, Great Bear L., Great Slave L. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum,
Erland, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Joshua.
The right-hand column shows the rank of the whole lake area among
those natural lakes that are wholly or partly in Canada.
L. Superior 82,414 82,100 (#1)
1. L. Huron 59,596 59,600 (#2)
L. Michigan 58,016 58,000
2. Great Bear L. 31,153 31,000 (#3)
3. Great Slave L. 28,400 27,000 (#4)
4. L. Erie 25,745 25,700 (#5)
5. L. Winnipeg 24,514 24,514 (#6)
L. Ontario 18,529 18,960 (#7)
6. L. Athabasca 7,850 7,850 (#8)
Reindeer L. 6,500 6,330 (#9)
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
Copenhagen, Edmonton, London (England). 5 for Bruce. 4 for Joshua,
Dan Blum, and Erland.
For questions #9-10: City centers are typically several minutes
wide; we selected a representative point in each city center
and the coordinates are as shown by Google Maps for those points.
1. Copenhagen 55°40' N
2. Edmonton 53°32' N
3. London, England 51°30' N
4. Halifax 44°39' N
5. London, Ontario 42°59' N
6. Lisbon 38°43' N
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia. 6 for Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Dan Tilque. 4 for Bruce, Erland, and Pete.
1. Boston 71° 4' W
2. Montreal 73°34' W
3. Philadelphia 75°10' W
4. Washington 77° 0' W
5. Buffalo 78°53' W
6. Toronto 79°23' W
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
> At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
> this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
> to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
> knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
> it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
> of picking a category.
> * A. Gray Coach
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
The Toronto Transportation Commission (accepting TTC; treating the
present name Toronto Transit Commission as "almost correct").
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
Stagecoach, or the thematic answer, Greyhound Lines of Canada
("Greyhound" was sufficient). 4 for Joshua, Bruce, Dan Blum,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
> In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
> pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
> of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
> On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
> term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
> *or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
> In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
> but the others still apply.
> B1. Where in the body would you find this?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
Temporomandibular joint. (Or temporal mandibular joint; the joint
at the rear of the jawbone that flexes when you chew or talk.
That's a tooth on top of the bone at the bottom right of the image.
Any description referring to the jaw, mandible, or mouth would do,
but I thought the head was too large for full points.) 4 for Bruce,
Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Erland.
Sternum (breastbone, vertical bone in center of chest). The numbered
notches down each side are where the ribs meet it, and I accepted
"ribs" as almost correct. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.
> * C. "Grey's Anatomy"
> C1. Who """plays""" the title character on "Grey's Anatomy"?
Ellen Pompeo. (Still true, now about to go into the 17th season.)
> C2. What's the name of the character who """is""" played by
> Sandra Oh?
Cristina Yang. (Still true.) 4 for Pete.
> * D. Grey Cup
> D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
> *other* than the Argonauts.
Balmy Beach (1927, 1930); Royal Canadian Air Force Hurricanes (1942);
University of Toronto (1909, 1910, 1911, 1920). Still true.
> D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
> their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
> Who won?
2007 answer: British Columbia Lions (1994). 2020 answer: Saskatchewan
Roughriders (2013, when the losing team was Hamilton).
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
Yousuf Karsh. 4 for Joshua.
See:
http://karsh.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Yousuf-Karsh-Winston-Churchill-1941-1557x1960.jpg
This is my favorite portrait photo of all time. (Still true.)
> E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
> was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
> being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
> believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
> graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
> Vietnam. Name him.
Robert Capa. 4 for Joshua.
See:
http://dujye7n3e5wjl.cloudfront.net/photographs/1080-tall/time-100-influential-photos-robert-capa-falling-soldier-24.jpg
While editing this round for Usenet in 2007, I tried a Google Images
search on the single word "Capa", just to see if the photo would be
the top hit. It was, and specifically the hit was on this article
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html which
makes a strong argument that it is genuine.
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
Charleston (South Carolina). 4 for Joshua, Bruce, Erland, Dan Tilque,
and Pete.
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
Robert E. Lee; Ulysses S. Grant; Appomattox Court House, Virginia
("Appomattox" was sufficient, though technically wrong). 4 for
Joshua, Bruce, Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, and Pete.
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAME 10 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 BEST
TOPICS-> Mis Ent Spo Can Lit His Geo Cha SIX
Joshua Kreitzer 36 28 28 20 28 40 48 20 208
Dan Blum 28 12 24 28 20 24 36 16 160
Dan Tilque 15 0 24 28 12 28 38 20 153
Pete Gayde 8 12 36 16 4 20 30 16 130
Stephen Perry 40 36 -- -- -- -- -- -- 76
Erland Sommarskog -- -- 8 0 0 20 38 7 73
Bruce Bowler -- -- -- -- -- -- 32 20 52
--
Mark Brader | "This is a moral that runs at large;
Toronto | Take it. -- You're welcome. -- No extra charge."
m...@vex.net | -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2007-03-26,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information...
> see my 2020-06-23 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
> the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
Now Game 10 is over and the winner is JOSHUA KREITZER! Hearty
> the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".
congratulations, eh?
> I wrote both of these rounds.
> ** Game 10, Round 9 - Geography - Rank These
> Just in case you're way behind in the game at this point, don't
> worry, you may still be able to win -- because this is a bonus round.
was the easiest round after the current-events round, and was the
fourth-easiest of the entire season if current-events rounds are
ignored.
> This is a geography round, and the way it works is that in each
> question we will name six places. We'll list them in alphabetical
> order, and we'll ask you for the largest, or the tallest, or some
> such extreme. Of course that means the extreme *among the six
> places on the list*.
> In fact, we don't just want the most extreme, we want the *three*
> most extreme, if you can do it.
> For each question you should give 3 answer-parts in order --
> naming what you think are the #1, #2, and #3 ranked entries from
> the we give list. *But only the #1 part of the answer counts for
> the regular score* -- the others are attempts at a 2-point bonus.
> (You could choose to omit #2 and #3, but there's no advantage to
> that, and it is a multiple-choice round.)
> In addition, you have the usual opportunity to give a second guess.
> To avoid any confusion, on your second guess you should also give
| #1, #2, and #3 answers in order. The scoring will depend on whether
> or not the #1 part of your answer is the same in the two guesses, as
> follows (view the table in a monospaced font for proper alignment):
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | | all 3 parts | #1 part correct |
> | | correct | but not both |
> | | and in order | #2 & #3 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | Only one 3-part answer | | |
> | given | 6 | 4 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | Either of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part the same in both | 5 | 4 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | 1st of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part different | 5 | 3 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
> | 2nd of two guesses with | | |
> | #1 part different | 4 | 2 |
> +------------------------------+--------------+-----------------+
you think I got it wrong.
> Got all that? Okay, here we go.
tables that this round was constructed from. On questions #1-8, I'll
show the top 10 or so places from the complete list in each ranking,
plus any ones used in the question that don't rank that high.
Obviously, in each case the numbering on the left is the one we
asked about.
> *Note*: For some questions the order of the list may have changed.
> If you want to give the answer as of 2020, then *you must say*
> you are doing that. If you make a second guess then it must be
> for the same time period.
But in fact none of the answers have changed except that one building
was renamed, and I'm not worrying about that; some of the supporting
details shown below have changed, though.
> 1. Largest population, based on metropolitan areas """in the 2000
> census""". Atlanta; Chicago; Los Angeles; Miami (including
> Ft. Lauderdale); Phoenix; San Francisco (including San Jose and
> Oakland). To repeat, name the three largest of these six places
> in order (largest first), or two guesses at the three largest.
> *Note*: For questions #1-2, if you are giving the answer for
> 2020, then the 2010 census is the relevant one.
and Dan Tilque. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Pete.
The US Census Bureau actually uses long names like "New York -
Northern New Jersey - Long Island"; we'll keep them short here.
In the 2010 census they put San Jose and San Francisco into two
separate metropolitan answers, but since the question specified
"including San Jose", I've totaled the two metropolitan populations.
2007 details (based on 2000):
New York 21,199,865 (#1 in USA)
1. Los Angeles 16,373,645 (#2)
2. Chicago 9,157,540 (#3)
Washington - Baltimore 7,608,070 (#4)
3. San Francisco - San Jose 7,039,362 (#5)
Philadelphia 6,188,463 (#6)
Boston 5,819,100 (#7)
Detroit 5,456,428 (#8)
Dallas 5,221,801 (#9)
Houston 4,669,571 (#10)
4. Atlanta 4,112,198 (#11)
5. Miami - Ft. Lauderdale 3,876,380 (#12)
Seattle 3,554,760 (#13)
6. Phoenix 3,251,876 (#14)
2020 details (based on 2010):
New York 18,897,109 (#1)
1. Los Angeles 12,828,837 (#2)
2. Chicago 9,461,105 (#3)
Dallas 6,366,542 (#4)
3. San Francisco - San Jose 6,172,302 (#11+#34)
Philadelphia 5,965,343 (#5)
Houston 5,920,416 (#6)
Washington 5,649,540 (#7)
4. Miami - Ft. Lauderdale 5,564,635 (#8)
5. Atlanta 5,286,728 (#9)
Boston 4,552,402 (#10)
San Francisco - Oakland 4,335,391 (#11)
Detroit 4,296,250 (#12)
Riverside - San Bernardino 4,224,851 (#13)
6. Phoenix 4,192,887 (#14)
> 2. Largest population, based on city proper and *not* metropolitan
> areas, """in the 2000 census""". These are cities in New York
> State: Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Niagara Falls, Rochester, Utica.
Dan Tilque, and Pete.
The top 10 cities are unchanged between the two censuses:
[2000] [2010]
New York 8,008,278 8,175,133 (#1 in state)
1. Buffalo 292,648 261,310 (#2)
2. Rochester 219,773 210,565 (#3)
Yonkers 196,086 195,976 (#4)
Syracuse 147,306 145,170 (#5)
3. Albany 95,658 97,856 (#6)
New Rochelle 72,182 77,062 (#7)
Mount Vernon 68,381 67,292 (#8)
Schenectady 61,821 66,135 (#9)
4. Utica 60,651 62,235 (#10)
5th of the possible answers is Niagara Falls with 55,593 in 2000
(#11 in state), 50,193 in 2010 (#12). 6th is Ithaca with 29,287
in 2000 (#21), 30,014 in 2010 (#20).
> 3. Largest area. Algeria, Australia, China, India, Mexico, Sudan.
4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Pete.
For questions #3-4, areas in km² are shown according to the CIA
World Factbook. This source erroneously includes offshore water
claims for the the US to make it appear larger than China, but the
question didn't ask about the US.
[circa 2007] [2020]
Russia 17,075,200 17,098,242 (#1 in world)
Canada 9,984,670 9,984,670 (#2)
United States 9,631,420 9,833,517 (#3)
1. China 9,596,960 9,596,960 (#4)
Brazil 8,511,965 8,515,770 (#5)
2. Australia 7,686,850 7,741,220 (#6)
3. India 3,287,590 3,287,263 (#7)
Argentina 2,766,890 2,780,400 (#8)
Kazakhstan 2,717,300 2,724,900 (#9)
4->6. Sudan 2,505,810 1,861,484 (was #10, now #15)
5->4. Algeria 2,381,740 2,381,740 (#11 -> #10)
Dem. Rep. Congo 2,345,410 2,344,858 (#12 -> #11)
Saudi Arabia 2,149,690 2,149,690 (#13 -> #12)
6->5. Mexico 1,972,550 1,964,375 (#14 -> #13)
Indonesia 1,919,440 1,904,569 (#15 -> #14)
> 4. Smallest area. (So give the *smallest one first*.) Andorra,
> Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City.
5 for Bruce. 4 for Dan Blum and Erland.
Here I'm only showing the data from 2020. There's been no change
that comes close to affecting the answer.
1. Vatican City 0.44 (#1 in world)
2. Monaco 2 (#2)
Nauru 21 (#3)
Tuvalu 26 (#4)
3. San Marino 61 (#5)
Liechtenstein 160 (#6)
Marshall Is. 181 (#7)
St. Kitts & Nevis 261 (#8)
Maldives 298 (#9)
4. Malta 316 (#10)
...
5. Andorra 468 (#16)
...
6. Luxembourg 2,586 (#27)
> 5. Tallest building. These are buildings in Toronto. We figure
> building complexes are better known than the individual building
> names, so if we refer here to a complex, we mean the tallest
> building in it. Commerce Court, First Canadian Place, Manulife
> Centre, Royal Bank Plaza, Scotia Plaza, Toronto-Dominion Centre.
For questions 5-6: Heights are shown in meters; the number of floors
is shown after that for interest. Data according to www.emporis.com,
but this source lists only the top 20 tallest buildings in Toronto and
the ones that were #7-10 in the city are no longer on their list.
1. First Canadian Place 298 72 (#1 in city)
2. Scotia Plaza 275 68 (was #2, now #3)
BCE Place - Canada Trust Tower 261 53 (#3 -> #5)
3. Commerce Court West 239 57 (#4 -> #7)
4. TD Centre - TD Bank Tower 223 56 (#5 -> #14)
BCE Place - Bay Wellington Tower 208 49 (#6 -> #19)
TD Centre - Royal Trust Tower 183 46 (was #7)
5. Royal Bank Plaza South 180 40 (was #8)
1 King St. W. 176 51 (was #9)
6. Manulife Centre - 44 Charles St. W. 166 51 (was #10)
> 6. Please decode the rot13 for this question only after you have
> finished with the previous one. Tallest building. Some of these
> have a main structure that includes a decorative extension above
> the highest floor; as usual, these do count, but antennas do not.
> Chrysler Building, Empire State Building, First Canadian Place,
> Petronas Towers (in Kuala Lumpur), Sears Tower, Taipei 101.
Taipei 101, Petronas Towers, Sears (now Willis) Tower. 6 for Bruce.
> have a main structure that includes a decorative extension above
> the highest floor; as usual, these do count, but antennas do not.
> Chrysler Building, Empire State Building, First Canadian Place,
> Petronas Towers (in Kuala Lumpur), Sears Tower, Taipei 101.
5 for Joshua.
The emporis.com site lists only the top 200 tallest in the world.
First Canadian Place no longer makes that list at all, and the top 10
have completely changed since this game was written.
1. Taipei 101, Taipei 509 101 (was #1 in world, now #11)
2. Petronas Tower 1, Kuala Lumpur 452 88 (#2/3 -> #20/21)
Petronas Tower 2, Kuala Lumpur 452 88 (#2/3 -> #20/21)
3. Sears (now Willis) Tower, Chicago 442 108 (#4 -> #23)
Jin Mao Tower, Shanghai 421 88 (#5 -> #33)
2 International Finance, Hong Kong 415 88 (#6 -> #34)
CITIC Plaza, Guangzhou 391 80 (#7 -> #42)
Shun Hing Square, Shenzhen 384 69 (#8 -> #47)
4. Empire State Building, New York City 381 102 (#9 -> #50)
Central Plaza, Hong Kong 374 78 (#10 -> #53)
...
5. Chrysler Building, New York City 319 77 (#23 -> #136)
...
6. First Canadian Place, Toronto 298 72 (was #37)
For your interest, the top 10 in the world are now:
Burj Khalifa, Dubai 828 163 (#1)
Shanghai Tower, Shanghai 632 128 (#2)
Makkah Clock Royal Tower, Makkah 601 120 (#3)
Ping An Int'l Finance Ctr., Shenzhen 599 116 (#4)
Goldin Finance 117, Tianjin 597 117 (#5)
Lotte World Tower, Seoul 554 123 (#6)
1 World Trade Center, New York City 541 104 (#7)
CTF Finance Centre, Guangzhou 530 111 (#8)
Tianjin CTF Finance Centre, Tianjin 530 97 (#9)
CITIC Tower, Beijing 528 108 (#10)
> 7. Largest area. Note: This question is asking about the six
> islands, *not* any political units of the same names that may
> include additional land such as secondary islands. Baffin I.,
> Honshu, New Guinea, Newfoundland, Sicily, Tasmania.
Dan Blum, Erland, and Dan Tilque.
For questions #7-8: areas in km² are shown according to Wikipedia
as it read at the time we constructed the round, and as it read
when I was updating the round in 2020 for reposting.
[2007] [2020]
Greenland 2,130,800 2,130,800 (#1 in world)
1. New Guinea 785,753 785,753 (#2)
Borneo 748,168 748,168 (#3)
Madagascar 587,713 587,041 (#4)
2. Baffin I. 507,451 507,451 (#5)
Sumatra 443,066 443,065 (#6)
3. Honshu 225,800 225,800 (#7)
Great Britain 218,595 209,331 (was #8, now #9)
Victoria I. 217,291 217,291 (#9 -> #8)
Ellesmere I. 196,236 196,236 (#10)
...
4. Newfoundland 108,860 108,860 (#16)
...
5. Tasmania 64,519 65,022 (#26)
...
6. Sicily 25,662 25,711 (#45)
No, I don't know why Wikipedia shrank Great Britain by over 3,500
square miles. Looking at the edit history, it changed in 2008 and
no source was cited for the old area, so probably it had been wrong
for some time before that and is now right.
> 8. Largest area. L. Athabasca, L. Erie, Great Bear L.,
> Great Slave L., L. Huron, L. Winnipeg.
Erland, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Joshua.
The right-hand column shows the rank of the whole lake area among
those natural lakes that are wholly or partly in Canada.
L. Superior 82,414 82,100 (#1)
1. L. Huron 59,596 59,600 (#2)
L. Michigan 58,016 58,000
2. Great Bear L. 31,153 31,000 (#3)
3. Great Slave L. 28,400 27,000 (#4)
4. L. Erie 25,745 25,700 (#5)
5. L. Winnipeg 24,514 24,514 (#6)
L. Ontario 18,529 18,960 (#7)
6. L. Athabasca 7,850 7,850 (#8)
Reindeer L. 6,500 6,330 (#9)
> 9. Most northerly. Copenhagen, Denmark; Edmonton, Alberta; Halifax,
> Nova Scotia; Lisbon, Portugal; London, England; London, Ontario.
> Note: Do not give just "London" as an answer!
Dan Blum, and Erland.
For questions #9-10: City centers are typically several minutes
wide; we selected a representative point in each city center
and the coordinates are as shown by Google Maps for those points.
1. Copenhagen 55°40' N
2. Edmonton 53°32' N
3. London, England 51°30' N
4. Halifax 44°39' N
5. London, Ontario 42°59' N
6. Lisbon 38°43' N
> 10. Most easterly. Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto,
> Washington.
and Dan Tilque. 4 for Bruce, Erland, and Pete.
1. Boston 71° 4' W
2. Montreal 73°34' W
3. Philadelphia 75°10' W
4. Washington 77° 0' W
5. Buffalo 78°53' W
6. Toronto 79°23' W
> ** Game 10, Round 10 - Challenge Round - Grays and Greys
> At the original game, contestants were told: "Two categories in
> this week's challenge round have similar titles. You are expected
> to know the difference between them based on your own trivial
> knowledge of spelling: do not discuss them aloud." In this format
> it doesn't matter, since you're answering all the questions instead
> of picking a category.
> * A. Gray Coach
> A1. For much of the 20th century, a major operator of inter-city
> and suburban buses serving Toronto was Gray Coach Lines.
> It was founded in 1927 as a subsidiary of what organization?
present name Toronto Transit Commission as "almost correct").
> A2. In 1990 when <answer A1> decided to get out of the
> inter-city bus business, Gray Coach was sold to a Scottish
> public transportation company, but retained its name.
> Two years later, it was sold again to the Canadian branch
> of an American-owned company, and now lost its distinct
> identity. Name either buyer.
("Greyhound" was sufficient). 4 for Joshua, Bruce, Dan Blum,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.
> * B. "Gray's Anatomy"
> In the original game, entrants were told: "The handouts for this
> pair are illustrations from the copyright-expired 1918 edition
> of 'Gray's Anatomy' that you can find under www.bartleby.com.
> On each question you may answer by giving the specific medical
> term, or by giving a description (we'll accept anything close),
> *or* ... by pointing to yourself!"
> In this newsgroup format, that last option will not be available,
> but the others still apply.
> B1. Where in the body would you find this?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10/gray1.jpg
at the rear of the jawbone that flexes when you chew or talk.
That's a tooth on top of the bone at the bottom right of the image.
Any description referring to the jaw, mandible, or mouth would do,
but I thought the head was too large for full points.) 4 for Bruce,
Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Erland.
Sternum (breastbone, vertical bone in center of chest). The numbered
notches down each side are where the ribs meet it, and I accepted
"ribs" as almost correct. 4 for Bruce, Dan Blum, and Dan Tilque.
> * C. "Grey's Anatomy"
> C1. Who """plays""" the title character on "Grey's Anatomy"?
> C2. What's the name of the character who """is""" played by
> Sandra Oh?
> * D. Grey Cup
> D1. Name any *Toronto* team that """has won""" the Grey Cup,
> *other* than the Argonauts.
University of Toronto (1909, 1910, 1911, 1920). Still true.
> D2. The """last time""" that a team won the Grey Cup before
> their *own home crowd*, the losing team was Baltimore.
> Who won?
Roughriders (2013, when the losing team was Hamilton).
> * E. Black, White, and Gray
> E1. On 1941-12-30, Winston Churchill was in Ottawa to address
> the Canadian House of Commons, but he wasn't told a portrait
> photographer had been brought in to take his picture.
> His annoyance increased when the photographer plucked the
> cigar from his mouth -- and the resulting expression made
> the photo a classic. Name the Armenian-born photographer.
See:
http://karsh.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Yousuf-Karsh-Winston-Churchill-1941-1557x1960.jpg
This is my favorite portrait photo of all time. (Still true.)
> E2. The most famous photo by this Hungarian-born war photographer
> was taken during the Spanish Civil War and showed a soldier
> being shot. The photo is so perfectly composed that some
> believe it must have been faked. The same man also photo-
> graphed the D-Day landings. He was killed by a mine in
> Vietnam. Name him.
See:
http://dujye7n3e5wjl.cloudfront.net/photographs/1080-tall/time-100-influential-photos-robert-capa-falling-soldier-24.jpg
While editing this round for Usenet in 2007, I tried a Google Images
search on the single word "Capa", just to see if the photo would be
the top hit. It was, and specifically the hit was on this article
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html which
makes a strong argument that it is genuine.
> * F. The Blue and the Gray
> F1. The US Civil War began on 1861-04-12, at Fort Sumter --
> in what *city*?
and Pete.
> F2. The war effectively ended when the Confederacy's Army of
> Northern Virginia surrendered to US forces on 1865-04-09.
> Either name the general who surrendered and the one that
> he surrendered to, or else name the place and one of the
> two men. That is, give *two out of three* answers: person,
> person, place.
("Appomattox" was sufficient, though technically wrong). 4 for
Joshua, Bruce, Dan Blum, Dan Tilque, and Pete.
Scores, if there are no errors:
GAME 10 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 BEST
TOPICS-> Mis Ent Spo Can Lit His Geo Cha SIX
Joshua Kreitzer 36 28 28 20 28 40 48 20 208
Dan Blum 28 12 24 28 20 24 36 16 160
Dan Tilque 15 0 24 28 12 28 38 20 153
Pete Gayde 8 12 36 16 4 20 30 16 130
Stephen Perry 40 36 -- -- -- -- -- -- 76
Erland Sommarskog -- -- 8 0 0 20 38 7 73
Bruce Bowler -- -- -- -- -- -- 32 20 52
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are some parts exiting from the main island piece by piece.
A little more seriously, in my Phillips World Atlas, printed in 1994,
the area is given as 229 880 km², that is even larger.
Times Comprehensive World Atlas, 11th editon of 2003 says 218 476 km².
I also looked in Svensk Uppslagsbok from the mid-fifties. Here the area
for the main island is given as 217 720 km². There is one more titbit
in this article of the interest. The total area for England, Scotland
and Wales is given as 228 255 km², that is less than what Phillips
says, although this number also includes other islands.
It appears to be difficult to measure the area of that island accurately.
Or it is constantly changing in size due to a combination of land-rise,
erosion and sedimentation.
> No, I don't know why Wikipedia shrank Great Britain by over 3,500
> square miles. Looking at the edit history, it changed in 2008 and
> no source was cited for the old area, so probably it had been wrong
> for some time before that and is now right.
>
Brexit, Mark! Brexit! Brexiting is just in their DNA. Apparently, there
> square miles. Looking at the edit history, it changed in 2008 and
> no source was cited for the old area, so probably it had been wrong
> for some time before that and is now right.
>
are some parts exiting from the main island piece by piece.
A little more seriously, in my Phillips World Atlas, printed in 1994,
the area is given as 229 880 km², that is even larger.
Times Comprehensive World Atlas, 11th editon of 2003 says 218 476 km².
I also looked in Svensk Uppslagsbok from the mid-fifties. Here the area
for the main island is given as 217 720 km². There is one more titbit
in this article of the interest. The total area for England, Scotland
and Wales is given as 228 255 km², that is less than what Phillips
says, although this number also includes other islands.
It appears to be difficult to measure the area of that island accurately.
Or it is constantly changing in size due to a combination of land-rise,
erosion and sedimentation.
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