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Chris F.A. Johnson
Nov 18, 2016, 5:09:07 PM11/18/16
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Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
This is Rotating Quiz #240.
Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
gets to create the next RQ.
The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
They are not in alphabetical order
1. A brood (as of pheasants)
2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
5. A support for a ball
6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
sentence, turning it into a question.
13. To form a line
14. Turn to the off side
15. Feminine suffix
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
This is Rotating Quiz #240.
Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
gets to create the next RQ.
The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
They are not in alphabetical order
1. A brood (as of pheasants)
2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
5. A support for a ball
6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
sentence, turning it into a question.
13. To form a line
14. Turn to the off side
15. Feminine suffix
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
Dan Blum
Nov 18, 2016, 5:38:42 PM11/18/16
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pea
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
bee
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
Wye
> 5. A support for a ball
tee
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
em
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Kaye
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
Ell
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
see
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
eh
> 13. To form a line
queue
> 15. Feminine suffix
ess
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 15. Feminine suffix
ess
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."
Peter Smyth
Nov 18, 2016, 6:16:35 PM11/18/16
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Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
Bee
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English
> Channel
Ex
> Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
>
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
En
>
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
>
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
Wye
>
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
See
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
>
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
>
> 13. To form a line
Queue
>
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
>
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
>
> 15. Feminine suffix
Ess
>
> 15. Feminine suffix
Peter Smyth
Pete
Nov 18, 2016, 7:11:07 PM11/18/16
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"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@cfaj.ca> wrote in news:rg94gd-f8d.ln1
@cfajohnson.ca:
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Ayr
>
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
>
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English
Channel
>
> 5. A support for a ball
Tee
>
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
Em
>
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Kaye
>
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
>
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay
>
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
See
>
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
You
>
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
Eh
>
> 13. To form a line
Queue
>
> 14. Turn to the off side
>
> 15. Feminine suffix
Ess
>
>
>
Pete Gayde
@cfajohnson.ca:
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
>
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
>
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English
Channel
>
> 5. A support for a ball
>
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
>
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
>
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
>
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
>
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
>
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
>
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
>
> 13. To form a line
>
> 14. Turn to the off side
>
> 15. Feminine suffix
>
>
>
Pete Gayde
Mark Brader
Nov 18, 2016, 11:21:54 PM11/18/16
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Chris Johnson:
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
No idea. An aitch?
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee.
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
Bee.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
Exe.
> 5. A support for a ball
Tee.
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
I believe you want the em. This is normally a relative unit: when
12-point type is in use, em is correct, but with 24-point type, en
is correct. But I think it is also occasionally used in the manner
described. A better answer is to the question as written is pica.
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Kaye.
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
Wye.
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay.
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
See.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
You?
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
Eh (what's up, doc?).
> 13. To form a line
Queue.
> 14. Turn to the off side
Gee.
> 15. Feminine suffix
-elle.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "The truth will set you free,
m...@vex.net | but first it will make you miserable."
My text in this article is in the public domain.
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
This was a category on "Jeopardy!" this week!
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
12-point type is in use, em is correct, but with 24-point type, en
is correct. But I think it is also occasionally used in the manner
described. A better answer is to the question as written is pica.
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
> 15. Feminine suffix
-elle.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "The truth will set you free,
m...@vex.net | but first it will make you miserable."
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Gareth Owen
Nov 19, 2016, 2:48:37 AM11/19/16
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Gee???
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
Bee
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
Exe
> 5. A support for a ball
Tee
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
Em? (Could be En or Ell, of course)
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Kaye
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
Wye
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay? -- couldn't choose between that or Gee as most likely
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
See
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
You
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
"Eh?"
> 13. To form a line
Queue
> 14. Turn to the off side
Gee???
Can't get past the cricket meaning of this, and can't think of a cricket
answer that make sense.
> 15. Feminine suffix
-ee
Good quiz Chris - lots of opportunity for elimination and guessing.
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
Can't get past the cricket meaning of this, and can't think of a cricket
answer that make sense.
> 15. Feminine suffix
-ee
Good quiz Chris - lots of opportunity for elimination and guessing.
Dan Tilque
Nov 19, 2016, 3:05:02 AM11/19/16
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Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
>
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
bee
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
>
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
>
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
>
> 5. A support for a ball
>
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
>
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
>
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
>
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
>
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
>
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
>
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
>
> 13. To form a line
>
> 14. Turn to the off side
>
> 15. Feminine suffix
-ess
--
Dan Tilque
Erland Sommarskog
Nov 19, 2016, 5:19:20 AM11/19/16
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Chris F.A. Johnson (cfajo...@cfaj.ca) writes:
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Key
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
> 15. Feminine suffix
-a
--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se
Calvin
Nov 20, 2016, 5:43:19 PM11/20/16
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On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 8:09:07 AM UTC+10, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
> 15. Feminine suffix
Elle
cheers,
calvin
Marc Dashevsky
Nov 22, 2016, 3:07:27 AM11/22/16
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In article <rg94gd-...@cfajohnson.ca>, cfajo...@cfaj.ca says...
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
bee
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
Wye
> 5. A support for a ball
tee
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
pica
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Kaye
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
Wye
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
Jay
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
see
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
you
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
eh
> 13. To form a line
queue
> 14. Turn to the off side
gee
> 15. Feminine suffix
-enne
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
>
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dee
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
>
> Usual rules: no looking anything up, no discussion, etc. The winner
> gets to create the next RQ.
>
> The answers in this round aren't letters of the alphabet, but they
> sound like them. For example, A female sheep is a ewe (U)
>
> They are not in alphabetical order
>
> 1. A brood (as of pheasants)
>
> 2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
> now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
> 3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
> 4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
> 5. A support for a ball
> 6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
> 7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
> 8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
> 9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
> 10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
> 11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
> 12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
> sentence, turning it into a question.
> 13. To form a line
> 14. Turn to the off side
> 15. Feminine suffix
-enne
--
Replace "usenet" with "marc" in the e-mail address.
Chris F.A. Johnson
Nov 28, 2016, 1:08:03 PM11/28/16
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On 2016-11-18, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
Results will be posted shortly, probably tomorrow.
> Thanks to Dan for RQ#239.
>
> This is Rotating Quiz #240.
>
> Please post your answers to all questions in a single followup in the
> newsgroup, quoting the questions and placing your answer below each
> one. Only one answer is allowed per question.
>
> Entries must be posted by Friday, November 25, 2016.
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
Chris F.A. Johnson
Dec 9, 2016, 12:09:48 AM12/9/16
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feeling great. (Mark, that's the only thing that would keep me away
from the Final.)
I hope to have the results up in a day or two.
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
Mark Brader
Dec 9, 2016, 1:39:39 AM12/9/16
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Chris Johnson:
figure out who had won, but as I mentioned to him in email, it's
going to depend on some judgement calls (and perhaps on tiebreaking),
so I can't provide a definitive answer. If Chris hadn't turned up
I was going to suggest seeing what others in the group thought.
However -- in case Chris finds it more useful to start from this
posting than to score the contest from scratch -- here's what I
worked out. (Posted and emailed.)
1. A brood (as of pheasants)
Dan Blum said pea; I said aitch; Gareth guessed gee. As far as
I can tell all three are wrong and the correct answer is "eye".
(This is not the same word as the visual organ, but an alteration
of an older word "nie" or "nye".)
2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
The city of Aberdeen is centered between the Don and the Dee.
Dan Blum, Peter, I, Gareth, Calvin, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were Ayr and Key, neither of which sounds like
a letter of the alphabet.
3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
Hymenoptera include bees, wasps, ants, ichneumon flies, and sawflies,
but obviously the one we want here is the bee. Dan Blum, Peter, I,
Gareth, Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Marc got this.
4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
According to Google Maps, the river Exe begins somewhere northwest of
Simonsbath in Exmoor National Park, near the western tip of Somerset,
and flows south to the English Channel at Exmouth. I and Gareth
got this.
Peter and Calvin said "Ex" and considering the nature of this contest,
I don't know whether this should be considered acceptable.
Dan Blum and Marc said Wye; this is the answer to #8 and if there's
another river of that name that would answer this question then
I'm not aware of it.
Other answers given were Channel and Key, neither of which sounds
like a letter of the alphabet.
5. A support for a ball
Obviously a tee, as in golf or football. Dan Blum, Pete, I, Gareth,
Dan Tilque, Erland, Calvin, and Marc got this.
6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
I explained: "I believe you want the em. This is normally a relative
Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Calvin got this.
Peter and Erland said "en", which I don't think should be accepted.
Marc said "pica", which is correct but does not sound like a letter
of the alphabet.
7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Danny Kaye. Dan Blum, Pete, I, Gareth, Calvin, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were Oh and Dee. Nobody with those surnames was
in the movie according to the IMDB. They do list as an uncredited
cast member a Chad Block, whose middle name was Dee (and curiously
the IMDB lists him as "Chad Dee Block" even though they show no
screen credits with the middle name), but he clearly didn't star in
the movie.
8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
This is the Wye. Google Maps shows it beginning somewhere northwest
of Pant Mawr in Wales, and it does flow into the Severn at Chepstow.
Peter, I, Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given include Ell, Ex, and again, Key, which does not
sound like a letter of the alphabet.
9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
SCOTUS means the Supreme Court of the United States, whose first
chief justice was John Jay. Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, I, Gareth,
Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were Aitch and Dee.
10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
A see. everyone -- Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, I, Gareth, Dan Tilque,
Erland, Calvin, and Marc -- got this.
11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
You. Pete, I, Gareth, Erland, and Marc got this.
Another answer given was "why". Google finds *no* hits where the
words "never find another why" occur consecutively within a single
sentence, so I think we can rule that one out.
12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
sentence, turning it into a question.
Eh. Dan Blum, Pete, I, Gareth, Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Marc got this.
Another answer given was "are", which is not placed at the end of
a sentence to turn it into a question.
13. To form a line
Queue. Everyone got this.
14. Turn to the off side
"The off side" is the right, in what's primarily a British usage; and
"gee" can mean to turn to the right. Both terms are used with horses.
I, Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were "eye", which does not seem to be correct,
and "veer", which does not sound like a letter of the alphabet.
15. Feminine suffix
This one is the most problematic -- 5 different answers were givne
and there is a case for each of them.
Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, and Dan Tilque said "-ess". This is clearly
a correct answers, as in "hostess", and I'm guessing it was the
intended answer.
Marc said "-enne". This is mostly a French suffix, but the question
was not explicitly limited to English, and it notably occurs in the
English word "comedienne".
I and Calvin said "-elle". This is also mostly French, and it's
clearly a feminine suffix in French; it also occurs in a few English
words such as "organelle", but is not feminine in those words.
Gareth said "-ee". English has feminine words such as "fiancee"
and "divorcee" that end in -ee, but it's really only the second E
that's a suffix making them feminine. These words come directly
from French and the same applies in that language.
Finally, Erland said "-a", which is certainly a feminine ending in
Latin and some languages derived from it, and shows up in English
in Latin-based words like "alumna".
So counting only the points that are clearly correct, we have:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
Mark Brader 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 11
Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 11
Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 10
Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 7
Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 7
"Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 7
Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 6
Erland Sommarskog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 4
0 6 7 2 8 0 6 5 7 9 5 7 9 0 0
Several entrants have chances at additional points depending on what's
accepted, but as to the three leading scorers:
* I could rise to 12 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
* Gareth could rise to 12 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
* And Marc could rise to 11 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
there is a river Wye in England that meets the criteria of #4,
or to 12 if both of thiese apply.
* And, of course, I could have missed something.
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> My continued apologies. I have been under the weather and am still not
> feeling great. (Mark, that's the only thing that would keep me away
> from the Final.)
While Chris was posting the above, I was attempting to see if I could
> feeling great. (Mark, that's the only thing that would keep me away
> from the Final.)
figure out who had won, but as I mentioned to him in email, it's
going to depend on some judgement calls (and perhaps on tiebreaking),
so I can't provide a definitive answer. If Chris hadn't turned up
I was going to suggest seeing what others in the group thought.
However -- in case Chris finds it more useful to start from this
posting than to score the contest from scratch -- here's what I
worked out. (Posted and emailed.)
1. A brood (as of pheasants)
I can tell all three are wrong and the correct answer is "eye".
(This is not the same word as the visual organ, but an alteration
of an older word "nie" or "nye".)
2. A city on the east coast of Scotland, once known for fishing, but
now for oil, sits at the mouth of two rivers, the Don and the ?
Dan Blum, Peter, I, Gareth, Calvin, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were Ayr and Key, neither of which sounds like
a letter of the alphabet.
3. A member of the order Hymenoptera.
but obviously the one we want here is the bee. Dan Blum, Peter, I,
Gareth, Dan Tilque, Calvin, and Marc got this.
4. A river that rises in Somerset and flows south to the English Channel
Simonsbath in Exmoor National Park, near the western tip of Somerset,
and flows south to the English Channel at Exmouth. I and Gareth
got this.
Peter and Calvin said "Ex" and considering the nature of this contest,
I don't know whether this should be considered acceptable.
Dan Blum and Marc said Wye; this is the answer to #8 and if there's
another river of that name that would answer this question then
I'm not aware of it.
Other answers given were Channel and Key, neither of which sounds
like a letter of the alphabet.
5. A support for a ball
Dan Tilque, Erland, Calvin, and Marc got this.
6. In printing, 1/6 of an inch
unit: when 12-point type is in use, em is correct, but with 24-point
type, en is correct. But I think it is also occasionally used in
the manner described. A better answer is to the question as written
is pica." Taking "em" as the correct answer, Dan Blum, Pete, I,
type, en is correct. But I think it is also occasionally used in
the manner described. A better answer is to the question as written
Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Calvin got this.
Peter and Erland said "en", which I don't think should be accepted.
Marc said "pica", which is correct but does not sound like a letter
of the alphabet.
7. Star of the 1955 movie, "The Court Jester"
Other answers given were Oh and Dee. Nobody with those surnames was
in the movie according to the IMDB. They do list as an uncredited
cast member a Chad Block, whose middle name was Dee (and curiously
the IMDB lists him as "Chad Dee Block" even though they show no
screen credits with the middle name), but he clearly didn't star in
the movie.
8. A river that rises in Wales and joins the River Severn at Chepstow
of Pant Mawr in Wales, and it does flow into the Severn at Chepstow.
Peter, I, Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given include Ell, Ex, and again, Key, which does not
sound like a letter of the alphabet.
9. The first chief justice of SCOTUS
chief justice was John Jay. Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, I, Gareth,
Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were Aitch and Dee.
10. The jurisdiction of a bishop.
Erland, Calvin, and Marc -- got this.
11. What The Seekers knew they would never find another of
Another answer given was "why". Google finds *no* hits where the
words "never find another why" occur consecutively within a single
sentence, so I think we can rule that one out.
12. This typically though not exclusively Canadian word ends a
sentence, turning it into a question.
Another answer given was "are", which is not placed at the end of
a sentence to turn it into a question.
13. To form a line
14. Turn to the off side
"gee" can mean to turn to the right. Both terms are used with horses.
I, Gareth, Dan Tilque, and Marc got this.
Other answers given were "eye", which does not seem to be correct,
and "veer", which does not sound like a letter of the alphabet.
15. Feminine suffix
This one is the most problematic -- 5 different answers were givne
and there is a case for each of them.
Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, and Dan Tilque said "-ess". This is clearly
a correct answers, as in "hostess", and I'm guessing it was the
intended answer.
Marc said "-enne". This is mostly a French suffix, but the question
was not explicitly limited to English, and it notably occurs in the
English word "comedienne".
I and Calvin said "-elle". This is also mostly French, and it's
clearly a feminine suffix in French; it also occurs in a few English
words such as "organelle", but is not feminine in those words.
Gareth said "-ee". English has feminine words such as "fiancee"
and "divorcee" that end in -ee, but it's really only the second E
that's a suffix making them feminine. These words come directly
from French and the same applies in that language.
Finally, Erland said "-a", which is certainly a feminine ending in
Latin and some languages derived from it, and shows up in English
in Latin-based words like "alumna".
So counting only the points that are clearly correct, we have:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
Mark Brader 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 11
Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 11
Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 10
Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 7
Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 7
"Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 7
Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 6
Erland Sommarskog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 4
0 6 7 2 8 0 6 5 7 9 5 7 9 0 0
Several entrants have chances at additional points depending on what's
accepted, but as to the three leading scorers:
* I could rise to 12 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
* Gareth could rise to 12 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
* And Marc could rise to 11 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
there is a river Wye in England that meets the criteria of #4,
or to 12 if both of thiese apply.
* And, of course, I could have missed something.
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Dan Tilque
Dec 9, 2016, 3:39:56 AM12/9/16
to
Mark Brader wrote:
>
> * And, of course, I could have missed something.
You mean besides not giving credit for #6 and #14?
>
> * And, of course, I could have missed something.
--
Dan Tilque
Mark Brader
Dec 9, 2016, 4:32:40 AM12/9/16
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Mark Brader:
correct "-ess" on #15. Sorry about that -- basically this was the
result of carelessness as I jammed someone else's contest into my
scoring mechanisms.
Sorry about that, Chief. Here's the corrected score table:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
Mark Brader 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11
Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 10
Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 10
Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 9
"Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 7
Now,
* I could rise to 14 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
* Gareth could rise to 14 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
* And Marc could rise to 12 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
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> > * And, of course, I could have missed something.
Dan Tilque:
> You mean besides not giving credit for #6 and #14?
Yes, in fact! I also missed that I didn't give credit for the clearly
correct "-ess" on #15. Sorry about that -- basically this was the
result of carelessness as I jammed someone else's contest into my
scoring mechanisms.
Sorry about that, Chief. Here's the corrected score table:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11
Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 10
Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 10
Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 9
"Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 7
Erland Sommarskog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 4
0 6 7 2 8 6 6 5 7 9 5 7 9 4 4
Now,
* I could rise to 14 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
* Gareth could rise to 14 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
* And Marc could rise to 12 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
there is a river Wye in England that meets the criteria of #4,
or to 13 if both of thiese apply.
--
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m...@vex.net | Or perhaps just mad!" -- Robert L. Biddle
Erland Sommarskog
Dec 9, 2016, 12:31:38 PM12/9/16
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> Other answers given include Ell, Ex, and again, Key, which does not
> sound like a letter of the alphabet.
It was a collossal nagging about this! In the case of Ellen Key it certainly
> Other answers given include Ell, Ex, and again, Key, which does not
> sound like a letter of the alphabet.
sounds like a letter. OK, so she has nothing to with any of the questions
in the quiz, but I assumed there could be other names spelt Key that could
be pronounced that way. Nevermind that Ellen Key was Swedish, that I was not
really aware of that at the time. And given the irregularities of English
that pronunciation of Key seems perfectly plausible.
> Dan Blum, Peter, Pete, and Dan Tilque said "-ess". This is clearly
> a correct answers, as in "hostess", and I'm guessing it was the
> intended answer.
> Marc said "-enne". This is mostly a French suffix, but the question
> was not explicitly limited to English, and it notably occurs in the
> English word "comedienne".
vowel change in the English spelling.)
> I and Calvin said "-elle". This is also mostly French, and it's
> clearly a feminine suffix in French; it also occurs in a few English
> words such as "organelle", but is not feminine in those words.
> Finally, Erland said "-a", which is certainly a feminine ending in
> Latin and some languages derived from it, and shows up in English
> in Latin-based words like "alumna".
although it has been weakened to -e in German and become mute in French.
And in English it is difficult to find at all(*). But since Chris only said
"feminie suffix", but did not specify the language, I think -a still
qualifies from that perspectiv. However, reasonably, there has to be
a pronunciation which coincides with an English letter, and this is where
it gets difficult.
(*) As also in Hittite! Hittite is a very old Indo-European language, but
some words are still understandable. You can all figure out what "watr"
means. But what happened to the -a? Maybe the lost it. Or maybe the
Hittites left the Indo-European home before the feminie suffix had
developed?
Mark Brader
Dec 9, 2016, 3:10:50 PM12/9/16
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Mark Brader:
This sort of reasoning could also save the answer of -ee.
> > I and Calvin said "-elle"....
> > Finally, Erland said "-a", which is certainly a feminine ending in
> > Latin and some languages derived from it, and shows up in English
> > in Latin-based words like "alumna".
>
> Not only Latin, but but this suffix appears in most Indo-European
> languages...
Yeah, yeah.
> However, reasonably, there has to be a pronunciation which coincides
> with an English letter, and this is where it gets difficult.
Good point.
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> > Marc said "-enne". This is mostly a French suffix, but the question
> > was not explicitly limited to English, and it notably occurs in the
> > English word "comedienne".
Erland Sommarskog:
> > was not explicitly limited to English, and it notably occurs in the
> > English word "comedienne".
> The suffix is really only -e, as the male word is "Comedian" (nevermind the
> vowel change in the English spelling.)
I disagree; I see the suffix is -an (masculine) or -enne (feminine).
> vowel change in the English spelling.)
This sort of reasoning could also save the answer of -ee.
> > I and Calvin said "-elle"....
> I suspect that this falls under the same catetory as -elle.
(Chuckle)
> > Finally, Erland said "-a", which is certainly a feminine ending in
> > Latin and some languages derived from it, and shows up in English
> > in Latin-based words like "alumna".
>
> Not only Latin, but but this suffix appears in most Indo-European
Yeah, yeah.
> However, reasonably, there has to be a pronunciation which coincides
> with an English letter, and this is where it gets difficult.
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Mark Brader
Dec 19, 2016, 5:39:07 AM12/19/16
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We are now on the 24th day since RQ #240 closed, and it's been almost
10 days since the moderator, Chris Johnson, explained that he'd been
ill and still wasn't feeling entirely better. I emailed him on Friday
and haven't heard back.
I previously tabulated:
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
>
> Mark Brader 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
> Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
> Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11
> Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 10
> Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 10
> Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 9
> "Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
> Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 7
> Erland Sommarskog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 4
>
> 0 6 7 2 8 6 6 5 7 9 5 7 9 4 4
>
> Now,
>
> * I could rise to 14 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
> * Gareth could rise to 14 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
> * And Marc could rise to 12 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
> there is a river Wye in England that meets the criteria of #4,
> or to 13 if both of thiese apply.
On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
I actually do have an RQ ready to post, if needed, but I don't think
it'll be one that people will like, so I'm reluctant to offer it
directly after this long time lag.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "If it's on TV, it has to be true!
m...@vex.net (I read that on the Internet.)"
10 days since the moderator, Chris Johnson, explained that he'd been
ill and still wasn't feeling entirely better. I emailed him on Friday
and haven't heard back.
I previously tabulated:
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 TOTALS
>
> Mark Brader 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
> Gareth Owen 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 13
> Marc Dashevsky 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11
> Dan Blum 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 10
> Dan Tilque 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 10
> Pete Gayde 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 9
> "Calvin" 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 8
> Peter Smyth 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 7
> Erland Sommarskog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 4
>
> 0 6 7 2 8 6 6 5 7 9 5 7 9 4 4
>
> Now,
>
> * I could rise to 14 if "-elle" is accepted for #15.
> * Gareth could rise to 14 if "-ee" is accepted for #15.
> * And Marc could rise to 12 if "-enne" is accepted for #15, or if
> there is a river Wye in England that meets the criteria of #4,
> or to 13 if both of thiese apply.
feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
I actually do have an RQ ready to post, if needed, but I don't think
it'll be one that people will like, so I'm reluctant to offer it
directly after this long time lag.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "If it's on TV, it has to be true!
m...@vex.net (I read that on the Internet.)"
Gareth Owen
Dec 19, 2016, 1:39:45 PM12/19/16
to
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
> feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
I am happy to do so but only on the grounds that the score was judged as
> On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
> feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
a tie.
Erland Sommarskog
Dec 19, 2016, 1:56:26 PM12/19/16
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
> feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
>
Chris did not state any tie breaker. Since Mark and Gareth has exactly
> On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
> feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
>
the same questions correctly, so the common rule of "he who answers the
most difficult question" cannot be applied. Another common rule is the
order of the answers, and I note that Mark posted his slate a few
hours before Gareth.
Then again, I like the idea of judging the incorrect answers as that
is the principle I usually apply myself. I'm not really keen on
making a statement here, but I will have to confess that I find -ee
flat wrong. In "fiancée" the suffix is really only -e. -ee as a suffix
does indeed exist in English and is productive, but in that case it
is genderless, meaning the person or thing who is the object of some
action. As one example of such a word, which I saw the other day, consider
this: feedbackee.
(It was an internal site for feedback on colleagues at multi-national
corporation with its head office in Finland.)
Mark Brader
Dec 19, 2016, 4:28:02 PM12/19/16
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Mark Brader:
> Then again, I like the idea of judging the incorrect answers...
That was not my intent. My intent was to estimate the likelihood
that the answers given would be ruled as alternative *correct* answers
in the view of the moderator.
> In "fiancée" the suffix is really only -e.
In the masculine forms "divorce" and "fiance" (this is English, we
ain't got no need for accents), the -e is a suffix indicating the
person that an action has been done to, which also occurs in words
like "employee" but spelled as -ee. (In fact the spelling "employe"
has also been used in the past.)
Then you can either take the view that to make the word feminine
you (A) add a second suffix -e, or that (B) you replace the masculine
suffix -e with its feminine version -ee. I think the fact that -ee
also exists as a sexless version of the suffix is evidence in favor
of interpretation B, so there's a strong case for Gareth's answer.
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> > On the grounds that "-ee" (as in "fiancee") is closer to being a
> > feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> > to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
Erland Sommarskog:
> > feminine suffix in English than "-elle" is, I nominate Gareth Owen
> > to run RQ 241, if he's prepared to do it.
> Another common rule is the order of the answers, and I note that Mark
> posted his slate a few hours before Gareth.
I did do that.
> posted his slate a few hours before Gareth.
> Then again, I like the idea of judging the incorrect answers...
That was not my intent. My intent was to estimate the likelihood
that the answers given would be ruled as alternative *correct* answers
in the view of the moderator.
> In "fiancée" the suffix is really only -e.
ain't got no need for accents), the -e is a suffix indicating the
person that an action has been done to, which also occurs in words
like "employee" but spelled as -ee. (In fact the spelling "employe"
has also been used in the past.)
Then you can either take the view that to make the word feminine
you (A) add a second suffix -e, or that (B) you replace the masculine
suffix -e with its feminine version -ee. I think the fact that -ee
also exists as a sexless version of the suffix is evidence in favor
of interpretation B, so there's a strong case for Gareth's answer.
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Toronto | would now be reserved for kicking a ball in a net."
m...@vex.net | --Derrick Beckett
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