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Mark Brader

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Sep 18, 2016, 5:35:57 AM9/18/16

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-07-04,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

I wrote both of these rounds.

* Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves

We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each
question will be about a city or country that has lost *two* teams
in the *same* major sports league, sometimes because the franchise
was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.

In this round, when we say that a team "kept its name", we mean
that the non-geographical part stayed the same, like when the
Minnesota Lakers became the Los Angeles Lakers.

Note: *Answers may repeat*, and sometimes there will be multiple
questions about the same event, so be careful of table talk.

1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
Canadian cities.

2. Sometimes it goes the other way. Which *US city* had two NHL
teams at different times that both moved to Canada? The moves
were 31 years apart, one in the 20th century and one in the 21st.
One team kept its name when it moved; the other didn't.

3. What city saw its first NBA basketball team move away in the
1970s, later got another team, then saw that team move away for 2
years before returning? The two teams moved away 26 years apart.
Both teams went to cities whose names end in the word "City",
although one did not take on that city's name. Name the city
that the two teams moved away *from*.

4. What city had two NFL football teams and lost them *both in
the same year* as they each moved to other cities? Both teams
kept their names when they moved. One of them was returning
to a city where it had played previously; the other wasn't.

5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
Gur Enzf, bs pbhefr, unir abj zbirq onpx gb Ybf Natryrf.
Ohg jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gung gur Enzf naq gur
Envqref obgu cynlrq gurer?

6. Back to hockey now. This Canadian city had two NHL teams at
different times, but they both moved away. The first team went
to another Canadian city, and later to the US; then, 75 years
after that first move, their second team moved directly to
the US. There is no NHL team there today. Name the Canadian
city that lost these two teams.

7. This Canadian city had three NHL teams in the 20th century,
though they never had more than two at a time. One of the
three teams is still around today, but they lost the other two
when they each shut down, 20 years apart, in both cases before
World War II. Name the city.

8. Finally, baseball. This city lost two American League teams
when they each moved away to other cities. The first one moved
in the 1960s and was immediately replaced by an expansion
team with the *same name*; but 11 years later, that team in
turn moved away. Today the city has a National League team.
Name the city.

9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
they moved to were in the same state as each other?

10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
(But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)
Jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gur Tvnagf naq gur Qbqtref
cynlrq va Arj Lbex?

* Game 7, Round 8 - History - The Franchise

Another meaning of "franchise" is the right to vote. This round
is about elections, and specifically, dates of elections. Note:
even if we talk about events before or after a particular election,
you will always have to give the date of the election itself.

*This is a precision round*. Each question (except one, which
will be self-explanatory when you get to it) asks for a year and
specifies the leeway you have to answer within. You can do that
and get the normal points, but *if you give the exact answer,
you get a bonus*.

In this medium I'll specify that the bonus will be 2 points and
will be available only on your first answer. So if you answer
only once, you can score:

6 - exact
4 - close enough
0 - wrong

but if you give two guesses, you can score:

6 - first guess exact, second guess close enough
5 - first guess exact, second guess wrong
4 - first guess close enough, second guess exact or close enough
3 - first guess close enough, second guess wrong
2 - first guess wrong, second guess exact or close enough
0 - both guesses wrong.

And as usual on this type of round, if no one answers within the
allowed range then I'll score answers within double the range as
"almost correct", so if your opponents do badly enough then you
can also get 3, 2, or 1 that way.

Got it? Then here we go.

1. In Ontario, Frank Miller was the last of six consecutive
Progressive Conservative premiers. He lost power when his
party was reduced to a minority of seats, and after a vote of
no confidence, David Peterson became premier instead. In what
year, within 1, was the election that led to this result?

2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

3. The National Socialist German Workers' Party (to give it
its full name in English) never had a majority of seats in the
Reichstag, but in each of three separate elections in less than a
year they won more seats than any other party, and their leader,
some guy named Adolf Hitler, did become chancellor. Within 1,
in what year was the *last* of these three rapid-fire elections?

4. Elections in Britain were suspended for some years while
Winston Churchill was prime minister in wartime. When was the
election where Clement Attlee replaced him? For this one we
need the *month* and year; answer within 4 months for normal
score or within 1 month for the bonus.

5. What year was the first federal election in Canada where most
adult Canadian women were allowed to vote? It was also the first
election where women could be candidates. Answer within 3 years.

6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
1 year.

8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
4 years.

9. As we all know, in the US the presidency is not directly
determined by the public voting, but rather by the Electoral
College, whose members meet in each state and send messages
to Congress reporting the electoral votes from the state.
Once, though, this system failed badly in four states where
both major parties claimed to have won and both submitted to
Congress what they claimed were true electoral-vote counts.
Subsequent events showed party politics at their worst, but
eventually Rutherford B. Hayes was declared the winner over
Samuel Tilden. Within 8 years, when was this botched election?

10. Party politics also caused a problematic US election when
they ran head-on into the original idea that the presidential
vote would be *non-partisan* and so the logical person to be
vice-president would be *the presidential candidate who finished
second*. In this case, the Democratic Party ran Aaron Burr
and Thomas Jefferson as running mates, and they tied for first
place in the electoral vote. So the House of Representatives
had to decide which one would be president and which would
be vice-president -- but it took them 36 ballots to settle
the question. Within 8 years, when was *this* botched election?

--
Mark Brader | "Life is mundane until it is not,
Toronto | and then the mundane can look serene."
m...@vex.net | --David Maraniss

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Peter Smyth

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Sep 18, 2016, 5:49:48 AM9/18/16

Mark Brader wrote:

> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves
>
> We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
> More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each

> question will be about a city or country that has lost two teams
> in the same major sports league, sometimes because the franchise

> was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.
>
> In this round, when we say that a team "kept its name", we mean
> that the non-geographical part stayed the same, like when the
> Minnesota Lakers became the Los Angeles Lakers.
>
> Note: *Answers may repeat*, and sometimes there will be multiple
> questions about the same event, so be careful of table talk.
>
> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them

> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name both

> Canadian cities.
>
> 2. Sometimes it goes the other way. Which *US city* had two NHL
> teams at different times that both moved to Canada? The moves
> were 31 years apart, one in the 20th century and one in the 21st.
> One team kept its name when it moved; the other didn't.
>
> 3. What city saw its first NBA basketball team move away in the
> 1970s, later got another team, then saw that team move away for 2
> years before returning? The two teams moved away 26 years apart.
> Both teams went to cities whose names end in the word "City",
> although one did not take on that city's name. Name the city

> that the two teams moved away from.

>
> 4. What city had two NFL football teams and lost them *both in
> the same year* as they each moved to other cities? Both teams
> kept their names when they moved. One of them was returning
> to a city where it had played previously; the other wasn't.

Los Angeles

> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.

> The Rams, of course, have now moved back to Los Angeles.
> But within 2, what was the last year that the Rams and the
> Raiders both played there?
1993

Toronto

> 8. Finally, baseball. This city lost two American League teams
> when they each moved away to other cities. The first one moved
> in the 1960s and was immediately replaced by an expansion
> team with the *same name*; but 11 years later, that team in
> turn moved away. Today the city has a National League team.
> Name the city.

Washington DC

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York

> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)

> Within 2, what was the last year the Giants and the Dodgers
> played in New York?
1973

1993

> 3. The National Socialist German Workers' Party (to give it
> its full name in English) never had a majority of seats in the
> Reichstag, but in each of three separate elections in less than a
> year they won more seats than any other party, and their leader,
> some guy named Adolf Hitler, did become chancellor. Within 1,

> in what year was the last of these three rapid-fire elections?
1935

> 4. Elections in Britain were suspended for some years while
> Winston Churchill was prime minister in wartime. When was the
> election where Clement Attlee replaced him? For this one we

> need the month and year; answer within 4 months for normal

> score or within 1 month for the bonus.

Sep 1945

> 5. What year was the first federal election in Canada where most
> adult Canadian women were allowed to vote? It was also the first
> election where women could be candidates. Answer within 3 years.

1937
> 6. What year was the last provincial election in Canada where
> women were not allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.
1950

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

1970
> 8. What was the last year when the mayor and city council of

> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1970

> 9. As we all know, in the US the presidency is not directly
> determined by the public voting, but rather by the Electoral
> College, whose members meet in each state and send messages
> to Congress reporting the electoral votes from the state.
> Once, though, this system failed badly in four states where
> both major parties claimed to have won and both submitted to
> Congress what they claimed were true electoral-vote counts.
> Subsequent events showed party politics at their worst, but
> eventually Rutherford B. Hayes was declared the winner over
> Samuel Tilden. Within 8 years, when was this botched election?

1834

> 10. Party politics also caused a problematic US election when
> they ran head-on into the original idea that the presidential
> vote would be *non-partisan* and so the logical person to be
> vice-president would be *the presidential candidate who finished
> second*. In this case, the Democratic Party ran Aaron Burr
> and Thomas Jefferson as running mates, and they tied for first
> place in the electoral vote. So the House of Representatives
> had to decide which one would be president and which would
> be vice-president -- but it took them 36 ballots to settle

> the question. Within 8 years, when was this botched election?
1812

Peter Smyth

Erland Sommarskog

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Sep 18, 2016, 8:23:38 AM9/18/16

Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves

> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

Winneipeg and Ottawa

> 2. Sometimes it goes the other way. Which *US city* had two NHL
> teams at different times that both moved to Canada? The moves
> were 31 years apart, one in the 20th century and one in the 21st.
> One team kept its name when it moved; the other didn't.

Atlanta

> 3. What city saw its first NBA basketball team move away in the
> 1970s, later got another team, then saw that team move away for 2
> years before returning? The two teams moved away 26 years apart.
> Both teams went to cities whose names end in the word "City",
> although one did not take on that city's name. Name the city
> that the two teams moved away *from*.

Seattle (Which is likely to be wrong. They had a basket team in Seattle
that moved to Oklahoma City some 5-10 years ago, but I have not heard
anything about a return.)

Winnipeg

> 7. This Canadian city had three NHL teams in the 20th century,
> though they never had more than two at a time. One of the
> three teams is still around today, but they lost the other two
> when they each shut down, 20 years apart, in both cases before
> World War II. Name the city.

Montréal

> 1. In Ontario, Frank Miller was the last of six consecutive
> Progressive Conservative premiers. He lost power when his
> party was reduced to a minority of seats, and after a vote of
> no confidence, David Peterson became premier instead. In what
> year, within 1, was the election that led to this result?

1873

> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1979

1933

> 4. Elections in Britain were suspended for some years while
> Winston Churchill was prime minister in wartime. When was the
> election where Clement Attlee replaced him? For this one we
> need the *month* and year; answer within 4 months for normal
> score or within 1 month for the bonus.

Octorber 1945

1921

> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1930

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

1862

> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1972

1848

1796

--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se

Dan Blum

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Sep 18, 2016, 10:39:38 AM9/18/16

Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves

> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

Ottawa and Halifax

Columbus; Buffalo

New Orleans; Denver

> 4. What city had two NFL football teams and lost them *both in
> the same year* as they each moved to other cities? Both teams
> kept their names when they moved. One of them was returning
> to a city where it had played previously; the other wasn't.

Los Angeles

> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> Gur Enzf, bs pbhefr, unir abj zbirq onpx gb Ybf Natryrf.
> Ohg jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gung gur Enzf naq gur
> Envqref obgu cynlrq gurer?

1983; 1993

Winnipeg; Vancouver

Toronto

Washington DC

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York City

> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)
> Jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gur Tvnagf naq gur Qbqtref
> cynlrq va Arj Lbex?

1959

> * Game 7, Round 8 - History - The Franchise

1980; 1990

> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament

> and made Jean Chr?tien the prime minister?

1996; 2000

1933

November 1945

1922; 1912

> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1946

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

1970; 1980

> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1990; 2000

1872

1800

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

Joshua Kreitzer

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Sep 18, 2016, 12:29:44 PM9/18/16

m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:0K6dnaf27qJlwkPKnZ2dnUU7-
KHN...@giganews.com:

> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves
>
> We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
> More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each
> question will be about a city or country that has lost *two* teams
> in the *same* major sports league, sometimes because the franchise
> was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.
>

> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

Quebec, Winnipeg

Atlanta

New Orleans

Los Angeles

1994; 1999

Quebec

Toronto

Washington

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York City

1956

> * Game 7, Round 8 - History - The Franchise
>
> Another meaning of "franchise" is the right to vote. This round
> is about elections, and specifically, dates of elections. Note:
> even if we talk about events before or after a particular election,
> you will always have to give the date of the election itself.
>

1965; 1968

> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1994

1933

June 1945

1920

> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1930

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

1985

> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1980

1876

1800

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Marc Dashevsky

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Sep 19, 2016, 5:42:59 AM9/19/16

In article <0K6dnaf27qJlwkPK...@giganews.com>, m...@vex.net says...

Los Angeles

> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.

> The Rams, of course, have now moved back to Los Angeles.
> But within 2, what was the last year that the Rams and the
> Raiders both played there?
>

> 6. Back to hockey now. This Canadian city had two NHL teams at
> different times, but they both moved away. The first team went
> to another Canadian city, and later to the US; then, 75 years
> after that first move, their second team moved directly to
> the US. There is no NHL team there today. Name the Canadian
> city that lost these two teams.
>
> 7. This Canadian city had three NHL teams in the 20th century,
> though they never had more than two at a time. One of the
> three teams is still around today, but they lost the other two
> when they each shut down, 20 years apart, in both cases before
> World War II. Name the city.
>
> 8. Finally, baseball. This city lost two American League teams
> when they each moved away to other cities. The first one moved
> in the 1960s and was immediately replaced by an expansion
> team with the *same name*; but 11 years later, that team in
> turn moved away. Today the city has a National League team.
> Name the city.

Washington D.C.

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York City

> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)

> Within 2, what was the last year the Giants and the Dodgers
> played in New York?

1958

> * Game 7, Round 8 - History - The Franchise

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swp

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Sep 19, 2016, 9:05:52 PM9/19/16

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 5:35:57 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-07-04,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.

noted

> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers to the newsgroup in a single followup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of the Usual Suspects and
> are used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may
> have been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information
> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
> I wrote both of these rounds.

its been a busy week for you

>
> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves
>
> We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
> More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each
> question will be about a city or country that has lost *two* teams
> in the *same* major sports league, sometimes because the franchise
> was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.
>
> In this round, when we say that a team "kept its name", we mean
> that the non-geographical part stayed the same, like when the
> Minnesota Lakers became the Los Angeles Lakers.
>
> Note: *Answers may repeat*, and sometimes there will be multiple
> questions about the same event, so be careful of table talk.
>
> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

winnipeg, quebec

atlanta

san diego

los angeles

> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.

> The Rams, of course, have now moved back to Los Angeles.
> But within 2, what was the last year that the Rams and the
> Raiders both played there?

1995

quebec

ottawa

washington, d.c.

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

new york

> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)

> Within 2, what was the last year the Giants and the Dodgers
> played in New York?

1958

um ... tl;dr ... but I trust you to follow your own rules.

1985

> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1993

1930

july 1945

1918

> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1939

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

2006

> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1982

1876

1800

swp

Dan Tilque

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Sep 20, 2016, 3:45:10 AM9/20/16

Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves
>
> We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
> More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each
> question will be about a city or country that has lost *two* teams
> in the *same* major sports league, sometimes because the franchise
> was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.
>
> In this round, when we say that a team "kept its name", we mean
> that the non-geographical part stayed the same, like when the
> Minnesota Lakers became the Los Angeles Lakers.
>
> Note: *Answers may repeat*, and sometimes there will be multiple
> questions about the same event, so be careful of table talk.
>
> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

Quebec, Ottawa

>
> 2. Sometimes it goes the other way. Which *US city* had two NHL
> teams at different times that both moved to Canada? The moves
> were 31 years apart, one in the 20th century and one in the 21st.
> One team kept its name when it moved; the other didn't.

Houston

>
> 3. What city saw its first NBA basketball team move away in the
> 1970s, later got another team, then saw that team move away for 2
> years before returning? The two teams moved away 26 years apart.
> Both teams went to cities whose names end in the word "City",
> although one did not take on that city's name. Name the city
> that the two teams moved away *from*.

Seattle

Los Angeles

>
> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> Gur Enzf, bs pbhefr, unir abj zbirq onpx gb Ybf Natryrf.
> Ohg jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gung gur Enzf naq gur
> Envqref obgu cynlrq gurer?

1994

>
> 6. Back to hockey now. This Canadian city had two NHL teams at
> different times, but they both moved away. The first team went
> to another Canadian city, and later to the US; then, 75 years
> after that first move, their second team moved directly to
> the US. There is no NHL team there today. Name the Canadian
> city that lost these two teams.

Ottawa

>
> 7. This Canadian city had three NHL teams in the 20th century,
> though they never had more than two at a time. One of the
> three teams is still around today, but they lost the other two
> when they each shut down, 20 years apart, in both cases before
> World War II. Name the city.

Toronto

>
> 8. Finally, baseball. This city lost two American League teams
> when they each moved away to other cities. The first one moved
> in the 1960s and was immediately replaced by an expansion
> team with the *same name*; but 11 years later, that team in
> turn moved away. Today the city has a National League team.
> Name the city.

Philadelphia

>
> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York

>
> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)
> Jvguva 2, jung jnf gur ynfg lrne gur Tvnagf naq gur Qbqtref
> cynlrq va Arj Lbex?

1958

1992

>
> 3. The National Socialist German Workers' Party (to give it
> its full name in English) never had a majority of seats in the
> Reichstag, but in each of three separate elections in less than a
> year they won more seats than any other party, and their leader,
> some guy named Adolf Hitler, did become chancellor. Within 1,
> in what year was the *last* of these three rapid-fire elections?

1933

November 1945

>
> 5. What year was the first federal election in Canada where most
> adult Canadian women were allowed to vote? It was also the first
> election where women could be candidates. Answer within 3 years.

1922

>
> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1937

>
> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.
>
> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.
>
> 9. As we all know, in the US the presidency is not directly
> determined by the public voting, but rather by the Electoral
> College, whose members meet in each state and send messages
> to Congress reporting the electoral votes from the state.
> Once, though, this system failed badly in four states where
> both major parties claimed to have won and both submitted to
> Congress what they claimed were true electoral-vote counts.
> Subsequent events showed party politics at their worst, but
> eventually Rutherford B. Hayes was declared the winner over
> Samuel Tilden. Within 8 years, when was this botched election?

1876

>
> 10. Party politics also caused a problematic US election when
> they ran head-on into the original idea that the presidential
> vote would be *non-partisan* and so the logical person to be
> vice-president would be *the presidential candidate who finished
> second*. In this case, the Democratic Party ran Aaron Burr
> and Thomas Jefferson as running mates, and they tied for first
> place in the electoral vote. So the House of Representatives
> had to decide which one would be president and which would
> be vice-president -- but it took them 36 ballots to settle
> the question. Within 8 years, when was *this* botched election?

1800

--
Dan Tilque

Björn Lundin

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On 2016-09-18 11:35, Mark Brader wrote:

>
> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1978

1933

March 1946

>
> 9. As we all know, in the US the presidency is not directly
> determined by the public voting, but rather by the Electoral
> College, whose members meet in each state and send messages
> to Congress reporting the electoral votes from the state.
> Once, though, this system failed badly in four states where
> both major parties claimed to have won and both submitted to
> Congress what they claimed were true electoral-vote counts.
> Subsequent events showed party politics at their worst, but
> eventually Rutherford B. Hayes was declared the winner over
> Samuel Tilden. Within 8 years, when was this botched election?

1876

1802

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Björn

Pete

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:0K6dnaf27qJlwkPKnZ2dnUU7-
KHN...@giganews.com:

Quebec and Winnipeg

Atlanta

New Orleans

Los Angeles

1991; 1996

Quebec

Montreal

Washington, DC

>
> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York

1958

1976; 1979

>
> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1980; 1983

1934

>
> 4. Elections in Britain were suspended for some years while
> Winston Churchill was prime minister in wartime. When was the
> election where Clement Attlee replaced him? For this one we
> need the *month* and year; answer within 4 months for normal
> score or within 1 month for the bonus.
>
> 5. What year was the first federal election in Canada where most
> adult Canadian women were allowed to vote? It was also the first
> election where women could be candidates. Answer within 3 years.

1930; 1937

>
> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1920; 1931

>
> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

1955; 1958

>
> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1950; 1959

1884

1804

>

Pete Gayde

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:

> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2016-07-04,

> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information

> see my 2016-05-31 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

> I wrote both of these rounds.

> * Game 7, Round 7 - Sports - Franchise Moves

> We just did franchise movies; this round is about franchise moves.
> More precisely, it's about franchise losses -- in pairs. Each
> question will be about a city or country that has lost *two* teams
> in the *same* major sports league, sometimes because the franchise
> was moved but also sometimes because the team simply shut down.

> In this round, when we say that a team "kept its name", we mean
> that the non-geographical part stayed the same, like when the
> Minnesota Lakers became the Los Angeles Lakers.

> Note: *Answers may repeat*, and sometimes there will be multiple
> questions about the same event, so be careful of table talk.

> 1. In the 1990s, two Canadian cities that had NHL teams lost them
> when they each moved to the US just one year apart. Name *both*
> Canadian cities.

Quebec, Winnipeg. 4 for Joshua, Stephen, and Pete.

(Quebec Nordiques became Colorado Avalanche in 1995, original Winnipeg
Jets became Phoenix Coyotes in 1996. Ottawa did not have a team in
the 1990s.)

Atlanta. 4 for Erland, Joshua, Stephen, and Pete.

(Atlanta Flames moved to Calgary in 1980; Atlanta Thrashers became
the new Winnipeg Jets in 2011.)

New Orleans. 4 for Joshua and Pete. 3 for Dan Blum.

(Jazz moved in 1979 to Salt Lake City as the Utah Jazz; Hornets
moved to Oklahoma City in 2005 after Hurricane Katrina, but returned
in 2007 and later became the Pelicans.)

Los Angeles. 4 for Peter, Dan Blum, Joshua, Marc, Stephen,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.

(L.A. Raiders returned to Oakland; L.A. Rams moved to St. Louis.)

> 5. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.

> The Rams, of course, have now moved back to Los Angeles.
> But within 2, what was the last year that the Rams and the
> Raiders both played there?

1994 (accepting 1992-96). 4 for Peter, Stephen, and Dan Tilque.
3 for Joshua. 2 for Dan Blum and Pete.

Quebec. 4 for Joshua, Stephen, and Pete.

(Bulldogs became Hamilton Tigers in 1920, later New York Americans;
and as noted above, Nordiques became Colorado Avalanche in 1995).

Montreal. 4 for Erland and Pete.

(Montreal Wanderers folded 1918, Montreal Maroons folded 1938,
Montreal Canadiens are still there. Toronto has only had the one
team, though it had other names before they settled on Maple Leafs.)

Washington. 4 for Peter, Dan Blum, Joshua, Marc, Stephen, and Pete.

(In the AL, the original Senators last played there 1960, became
Minnesota Twins; the new Senators last played there 1971, became
Texas Rangers. In the NL, the Montreal Expos became the Washington
Nationals in 2004.)

> 9. Which US city had two National League baseball teams that both
> moved away in the *same year* -- and the two new cities that
> they moved to were in the same state as each other?

New York. 4 for Peter, Dan Blum, Joshua, Marc, Stephen, Dan Tilque,
and Pete.

(N.Y. Giants to San Francisco, Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles.)

> 10. Please answer the previous question before decoding the rot13.
> (But you've guessed the question this time already, haven't you?)

> Within 2, what was the last year the Giants and the Dodgers
> played in New York?

1957 (accepting 1955-59). 4 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Marc, Stephen,
Dan Tilque, and Pete.

> * Game 7, Round 8 - History - The Franchise

> Another meaning of "franchise" is the right to vote. This round
> is about elections, and specifically, dates of elections. Note:
> even if we talk about events before or after a particular election,
> you will always have to give the date of the election itself.

> *This is a precision round*. Each question (except one, which
> will be self-explanatory when you get to it) asks for a year and
> specifies the leeway you have to answer within. You can do that
> and get the normal points, but *if you give the exact answer,
> you get a bonus*.

In the original game, this round was of middling difficulty if the
bonus points are ignored, but if they are counted then this was the
easiest round in the game and was tied (with the monochrome flags
round from Game 2) for the easiest of the entire season.

> In this medium I'll specify that the bonus will be 2 points and
> will be available only on your first answer. So if you answer
> only once, you can score:

> 6 - exact
> 4 - close enough
> 0 - wrong

> but if you give two guesses, you can score:

> 6 - first guess exact, second guess close enough
> 5 - first guess exact, second guess wrong
> 4 - first guess close enough, second guess exact or close enough
> 3 - first guess close enough, second guess wrong
> 2 - first guess wrong, second guess exact or close enough
> 0 - both guesses wrong.

> And as usual on this type of round, if no one answers within the
> allowed range then I'll score answers within double the range as
> "almost correct", so if your opponents do badly enough then you
> can also get 3, 2, or 1 that way.

This never happened; in fact, considering that the round was 60%
Canadiana, I was pleasantly surprised to see at least one score of
6 on every question, and not all from the same entrant, either.

> Got it? Then here we go.

> 1. In Ontario, Frank Miller was the last of six consecutive
> Progressive Conservative premiers. He lost power when his
> party was reduced to a minority of seats, and after a vote of
> no confidence, David Peterson became premier instead. In what
> year, within 1, was the election that led to this result?

1985 (normal score for 1984-86). 6 for Stephen.

Peterson's Liberals, of course, took power under a 2-year
coalition-like agreement with the NDP, and then were elected
to a majority in 1987.

> 2. In what year, within 1, was the election that reduced the
> federal Progressive Conservative Party to 2 seats in Parliament
> and made Jean Chrétien the prime minister?

1993 (normal score for 1992-94). 6 for Peter and Stephen.
4 for Joshua and Dan Tilque.

1933 (normal score for 1932-34). 6 for Erland, Dan Blum, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, and Björn. 4 for Pete.

July 1945 (normal score for March-November 1945, bonus for June-August
1945). 6 for Joshua and Stephen. 4 for Peter, Erland, Dan Blum,
and Dan Tilque.

1921 (normal score for 1918-24). 6 for Erland. 4 for Joshua,
Stephen, and Dan Tilque. 3 for Dan Blum.

Women were allowed to vote in the 1917 election if their husband,
brother, or son was on active military duty. On the other hand,
Canadian citizens who had been born in now-enemy nations lost their
vote in that election (unless they similarly had a relative in the
Canadian army). Both provisions were intended to enhance support
for candidates who would support conscription, and were repealed
before the 1921 election.

> 6. What year was the *last* *provincial* election in Canada where
> women were *not* allowed to vote? Answer within 5 years.

1939 (in Quebec; normal score for 1934-44). 6 for Stephen.
4 for Dan Tilque.

> 7. What was the first year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 4 years? Answer within
> 1 year.

2006 (normal score for 2005-2007). 6 for Stephen.

The electoral term for these offices has changed from 1 year to 2,
to 3, then back to 2 again, back to 3 again, and now 4. Remember,
David Miller was mayor 2003-2010 -- one 3-year and one 4-year term.

> 8. What was the *last* year when the mayor and city council of
> Toronto were elected for a term of 2 years? Answer within
> 4 years.

1980 (normal score for 1976-84). 6 for Joshua. 4 for Stephen.

1876 (normal score for 1868-1884). 6 for Joshua, Stephen, Dan Tilque,
and Björn. 4 for Dan Blum and Pete.

1800 (normal score for 1792-1808). 6 for Dan Blum, Joshua, Stephen,
and Dan Tilque. 4 for Erland, Björn, and Pete.

The party's intent was that after the public vote they would pick
one Democratic member of the Electoral College and ask him to vote
for only one of the two running mates, so there would not be a tie.
But whoever they picked, he either didn't get the message, or
didn't act on it.

The system was changed in 1804, in time for the next election, by
the 12th Amendment, which allowed for the possibility of running
mates by requiring the Electoral College to vote separately for
president and for vice-president.

Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 7 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 7 8 BEST
TOPICS-> Can Lit Mis Ent Spo His FOUR
Stephen Perry -- -- 40 40 32 50 162
Joshua Kreitzer 16 32 36 40 35 38 149
Dan Blum 16 20 20 34 21 23 98
Pete Gayde -- -- 12 23 38 12 85
Dan Tilque 16 8 8 8 16 34 74
Peter Smyth -- -- 8 31 16 10 65
Marc Dashevsky 0 12 16 12 16 0 56
Erland Sommarskog 16 0 8 4 8 20 52
"Calvin" 9 8 12 12 -- -- 41
Bruce Bowler -- -- 12 16 -- -- 28
Björn Lundin -- -- -- -- 0 16 16

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Erland Sommarskog

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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> (Quebec Nordiques became Colorado Avalanche in 1995, original Winnipeg
> Jets became Phoenix Coyotes in 1996. Ottawa did not have a team in
> the 1990s.)

So this thing about Ottawa is highly embarrassing for me. Being
Swedish I should of course know about Québec. But somehow I managed
to confuse it with Ottawa.

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:

> > (Quebec Nordiques became Colorado Avalanche in 1995, original Winnipeg
> > Jets became Phoenix Coyotes in 1996. Ottawa did not have a team in
> > the 1990s.)

Erland Sommarskog:

> So this thing about Ottawa is highly embarrassing for me.

Me too. The new Ottawa Senators have actually been playing since 1992.
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