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QFTCIUA Game 4, Rounds 2-3: duplicate places, bestseller covers

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Mark Brader

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Oct 23, 2014, 5:58:02 AM10/23/14
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These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-10-06,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of Unnatural Axxxe, and are
used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


* Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking

Be careful booking your next vacation. In a world of possible
place names, there's considerable duplication. In this round,
we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
You give that shared name.

For example, if we said, "345 km NW of Paris; 170 km SW of Toronto",
you would realize that we must mean the Paris in France and the
Toronto in Ontario, and you'd give the answer "London".

The round as used in the original game contained many errors; I've
recalculated all distances using great-circle distances (which
I'm giving rounded to the nearest 5 km) and directions (given to
the nearest semi-cardinal point) using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com.

1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.
2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.
6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.


* Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers

We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
cover. Please see the handout:

http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf

On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
(No need to name the author.)

For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
but for no points.

1. A (1962).
2. B (1987).
3. (decoy) C.
4. D (2005).
5. E (1966).
6. F (1969).
7. G (1937).
8. H (circa 300 BC).
9. I (2011).
10. J (2001).
11. K (1983).

--
Mark Brader | "...Backwards Compatibility, which, if you've made as
m...@vex.net | many mistakes as Intel and Microsoft have in the past,
Toronto | can be very Backwards indeed." -- Steve Summit

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Dan Blum

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Oct 23, 2014, 10:15:48 AM10/23/14
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking

> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St. Petersburg

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.

La Paz

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Calais

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth

> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield

> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers

> 1. A (1962).

A Clockwork Orange

> 2. B (1987).

Communion; Majestic

> 3. (decoy) C.

Charlotte's Web

> 4. D (2005).

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo

> 6. F (1969).

The Godfather

> 7. G (1937).

The Hobbit

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).

Kama Sutra

> 10. J (2001).

Life of Pi

> 11. K (1983).

The Witches

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum to...@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

Marc Dashevsky

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Oct 23, 2014, 10:32:20 AM10/23/14
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In article <psKdnUMt8bu0TNXJ...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
>
> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
>
> Be careful booking your next vacation. In a world of possible
> place names, there's considerable duplication. In this round,
> we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
> You give that shared name.
>
> For example, if we said, "345 km NW of Paris; 170 km SW of Toronto",
> you would realize that we must mean the Paris in France and the
> Toronto in Ontario, and you'd give the answer "London".
>
> The round as used in the original game contained many errors; I've
> recalculated all distances using great-circle distances (which
> I'm giving rounded to the nearest 5 km) and directions (given to
> the nearest semi-cardinal point) using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com.
>
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.
St. Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
Ottawa

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
Calais

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.
> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.
Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.
>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.
Springfield, my home town

> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).
A Clockwork Orange

> 2. B (1987).
> 3. (decoy) C.
Charlotte's Web

> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).
Valley of the Dolls

> 6. F (1969).
The Godfather

> 7. G (1937).
The Hobbit

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).
Kama Sutra

> 9. I (2011).
Fifty Shades of Grey

Peter Smyth

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Oct 23, 2014, 2:13:59 PM10/23/14
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St Petersburg
> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
Topeka
> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
La Paz
> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
Calais
> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.
Sydney
> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
Memphis
> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.
Athens
> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.
Perth
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).
> 2. B (1987).
> 3. (decoy) C.
> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).
> 6. F (1969).
> 7. G (1937).
> 8. H (circa 300 BC).
Kama Sutra
> 9. I (2011).
Fifty Shades of Grey
> 10. J (2001).
The Life of Pi
> 11. K (1983).
The Witches

Peter Smyth

Erland Sommarskog

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Oct 23, 2014, 2:52:40 PM10/23/14
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.

Topeka

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.

La Paz

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Folkestone

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Dunedin

> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield



--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se

Joshua Kreitzer

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Oct 23, 2014, 8:53:58 PM10/23/14
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:psKdnUMt8bu0TNXJnZ2dnUU7-
ded...@vex.net:

> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
>
> In this round,
> we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
> You give that shared name.
>
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St. Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.

Ottawa

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.

La Paz

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Calais

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth

> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield

> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> 1. A (1962).

"A Clockwork Orange"

> 2. B (1987).

"Communion"

> 3. (decoy) C.

"Charlotte's Web"

> 4. D (2005).

"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"

> 5. E (1966).

"The Group"

> 6. F (1969).

"The Godfather"

> 7. G (1937).

"The Hobbit"

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).

"Kama Sutra"

> 9. I (2011).

"Fifty Shades of Gray"

> 10. J (2001).

"Life of Pi"

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Jason Kreitzer

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Oct 23, 2014, 8:59:49 PM10/23/14
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Memphis
> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.
Athens
> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.
>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.
>
> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).
> 2. B (1987).
Communion
> 3. (decoy) C.
Charlotte's Web
> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).
> 6. F (1969).
The Godfather
> 7. G (1937).
> 8. H (circa 300 BC).
> 9. I (2011).
Fifty Shades of Grey

Bruce Bowler

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Oct 24, 2014, 8:03:36 AM10/24/14
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St Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.
>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield

>
> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its cover.
> Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller. (No
> need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into handout
> order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put in sequence
> with the others; answer that one if you like for fun, but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).

A Clockwork Orange

> 2. B (1987).
> 3. (decoy) C.

Charlotte's Web

> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).

|Valley of the Dolls

> 6. F (1969).

The Godfather

> 7. G (1937).

The Hobbit

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).

The Kama Sutra

> 9. I (2011).
> 10. J (2001).

Jeffrey Turner

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Oct 24, 2014, 9:34:00 PM10/24/14
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On 10/23/2014 5:58 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
>
> Be careful booking your next vacation. In a world of possible
> place names, there's considerable duplication. In this round,
> we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
> You give that shared name.
>
> For example, if we said, "345 km NW of Paris; 170 km SW of Toronto",
> you would realize that we must mean the Paris in France and the
> Toronto in Ontario, and you'd give the answer "London".
>
> The round as used in the original game contained many errors; I've
> recalculated all distances using great-circle distances (which
> I'm giving rounded to the nearest 5 km) and directions (given to
> the nearest semi-cardinal point) using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com.
>
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.
St. Petersburg
> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.
> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
Paris
> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.
Athens
>
> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.
>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.
Springfield
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).
A Clockwork Orange
> 2. B (1987).
> 3. (decoy) C.
> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).
> 6. F (1969).
The Godfather
> 7. G (1937).
The Hobbit
> 8. H (circa 300 BC).
Kama Sutra
> 9. I (2011).
50 Shades of Grey
> 10. J (2001).
The Life of Pi
> 11. K (1983).
>

robpparker SPAM @foroptusnet.com.aume Rob Parker

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Oct 25, 2014, 8:37:32 AM10/25/14
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> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
>
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.
> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Calais

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth

> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield

> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers

pass


Rob


Björn Lundin

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:04:35 PM10/25/14
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On 2014-10-23 11:58, Mark Brader wrote:

> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.
S:t Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.
Peterborough

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.
Calais

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.
S:t Johns; Charlottetown

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas
Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.
Giza

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.
Athens

>
> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth

>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Hamburg


> 2. B (1987).

Close encounter of third degree?

> 6. F (1969).
The God father

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).
Kama Sutra

--
Björn

Mark Brader

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I'm starting this set now, but Rounds 2-3 are not yet closed as
I post; you still have some hours to enter.


These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-10-06,
and should be interpreted accordingly.

On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
the correct answers in about 3 days.

All questions were written by members of Unnatural Axxxe, and are
used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (QFTCI*)".



* Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't Know

Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
area of expertise.

1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.

2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.

4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
never managed one nomination. Name that band.

5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
Name him.

8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
got a Best Director Oscar nomination.

9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
Name him.

10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
a domineering mother and her fearful children.


* Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds

As the Monsanto slogan says, "Without chemicals, life itself
would be impossible." Notwithstanding the fact behind that it is
impossible *with* some chemicals too, here's a round on household
chemical compounds. In each case, where we give the formula for
a compound, you give the everyday term for it.

1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
kind of a Canadian thing.

2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
of PO4.

4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
more on holiday weekends.

5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
some of it as "food grade". Name it.

6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
whose active ingredient is NH3.

7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?

8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Tools, not solutions. :-)"
m...@vex.net -- Henry Spencer

Dan Tilque

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Oct 26, 2014, 3:41:26 AM10/26/14
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Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking
>
> Be careful booking your next vacation. In a world of possible
> place names, there's considerable duplication. In this round,
> we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
> You give that shared name.
>
> For example, if we said, "345 km NW of Paris; 170 km SW of Toronto",
> you would realize that we must mean the Paris in France and the
> Toronto in Ontario, and you'd give the answer "London".
>
> The round as used in the original game contained many errors; I've
> recalculated all distances using great-circle distances (which
> I'm giving rounded to the nearest 5 km) and directions (given to
> the nearest semi-cardinal point) using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com.
>
> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St Petersburg

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.

Montreal

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.

La Paz

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Calais

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens

>
> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth

>
> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield

>
>
> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers
>
> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:
>
> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf
>
> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)
>
> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.
>
> 1. A (1962).

The Spy Who Came in from the Cold

> 2. B (1987).

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial

> 3. (decoy) C.
> 4. D (2005).
> 5. E (1966).

The Valley of the Dolls

> 6. F (1969).

The Godfather

> 7. G (1937).

The Hobbit

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).

Oedipus Rex

> 9. I (2011).
> 10. J (2001).
> 11. K (1983).
>


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Dan Tilque

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> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't Know
>
> Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
> legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
> area of expertise.
>
> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.
Christopher Nolan

> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?
Desi Arnaz

> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.
Matthew Perry

> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.
Kinks

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".
Talking Heads

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.
Andy Griffith

> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.
Richard Gere

> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.
Sam Peckinpah

> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.
Andy Something

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.
Cat On A Hot Tin Roof

> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> As the Monsanto slogan says, "Without chemicals, life itself
> would be impossible." Notwithstanding the fact behind that it is
> impossible *with* some chemicals too, here's a round on household
> chemical compounds. In each case, where we give the formula for
> a compound, you give the everyday term for it.
>
> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.
vinegar

> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?
alcohol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.
phosphate

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.
propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.
To me this is a poorly worded question. Soap is traditionally made
with lye and fat. KOH and NaOH do not have to be rendered into lye;
they are lyes. Potash is a variable mixture of potassium salts many of
which are alkaline. It can be processed to make it more alkaline
or to be converted to lye. Anyway, my answer is "lye".

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.
ammonia

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?
acetone

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.
lime

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.
hydrogen peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.
chalk

Erland Sommarskog

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> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

Kinks

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads

Sometimes they wonder if they too have made a similar mistake.

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.

Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?


> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.

Acethyelne

> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

Alcohol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

Phosphate

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

Propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

Caustic soda

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

Ammonium

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's
> that?

Aceton

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

The last sentence indicates that the English word might be "Soda",
but in Swedish they are known as "put-out chalk" and "non-put-out
chalk". ("Put out" in the sense "put out a fire".)

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

Hydrogen peroxide.

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.
>

Chalk

Joshua Kreitzer

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> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I
> Wouldn't Know
>
> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.

Christopher Nolan

> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

Desi Arnaz

> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.

David Schwimmer; Matt LeBlanc

> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

The Kinks

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffith

> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.

Richard Gere

> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.

Sam Peckinpah

> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.

Andy Serkis

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.

"The Glass Menagerie"

> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

ethanol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

phosphate

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

lye

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

ammonia

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

chalk

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Dan Blum

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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't Know

> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.

Christopher Nolan

> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

Ricardo

> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.

Matt LeBlanc; David Schwimmer

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffith

> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.

Richard Gere

> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.

Sam Peckinpah

> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.

Andy Serkis

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.

The Glass Menagerie

> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds

> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

ethanol

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

butane

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

ammonia

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?

acetone

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

lime

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

hydrogen peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

chalk

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-10-06,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".

Note: the following set, Rounds 4 and 6, has already been posted.
It's under the correct Subject line but, posting while asleep,
I accidentally put it in this thread instead of starting a new one.


> * Game 4, Round 2 - Geography - Double Booking

> Be careful booking your next vacation. In a world of possible
> place names, there's considerable duplication. In this round,
> we'll give the locations of two different places that share a name.
> You give that shared name.

> For example, if we said, "345 km NW of Paris; 170 km SW of Toronto",
> you would realize that we must mean the Paris in France and the
> Toronto in Ontario, and you'd give the answer "London".

> The round as used in the original game contained many errors; I've
> recalculated all distances using great-circle distances (which
> I'm giving rounded to the nearest 5 km) and directions (given to
> the nearest semi-cardinal point) using http://www.gpsvisualizer.com.

> 1. 635 km NW of Moscow; 25 km SW of Tampa.

St. Petersburg. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, Erland, Joshua, Bruce,
Jeff, Rob, Björn, and Dan Tilque.

> 2. The seat of Franklin County KS; 355 km NE of Toronto.

Ottawa. 4 for Marc and Joshua.

> 3. The capital of Baja California Sur; 415 km NW of Sucre.

La Paz. 4 for Dan Blum, Peter, Erland, Joshua, and Dan Tilque.

> 4. 45 km from Dover; across the border from St. Stephen NB.

Calais. ("Callay" in France, "Callus" in Maine.) 4 for Dan Blum,
Marc, Peter, Joshua, Rob, Björn, and Dan Tilque.

> 5. 715 km NE of Melbourne; 315 km NE of Halifax.

Sydney. 4 for Peter, Erland, Joshua, Bruce, Rob, and Dan Tilque.

> 6. 390 km NW of Lyon; 150 km NE of Dallas

Paris. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Erland, Joshua, Jeff, Rob, Björn,
and Dan Tilque.

> 7. A city in ruins, 20 km S of Cairo; 315 km W of Nashville.

Memphis. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, Erland, Joshua, Jason, Rob,
and Dan Tilque.

> 8. 95 km E of Atlanta; 305 km S of Thessaloniki.

Athens. 4 for everyone -- Dan Blum, Marc, Peter, Erland, Joshua,
Jason, Bruce, Jeff, Rob, Björn, and Dan Tilque.

> 9. A city 50 km N of Edinburgh that's home to St. Johnstone FC;
> a state capital 3,295 km W of Sydney.

Perth. 4 for Dan Blum, Peter, Joshua, Rob, Björn, and Dan Tilque.

> 10. One of the most famous cities in pop culture; a city 130 km
> W of Boston that's home to the NBA Hall of Fame.

Springfield. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Erland, Joshua, Bruce, Jeff,
Rob, and Dan Tilque.


> * Game 4, Round 3 - Arts & Lit - Bestseller Covers

> We don't care what they say: we demand you judge a book by its
> cover. Please see the handout:

> http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/4-3/books.pdf

> On each question you get the cover and the year of publication,
> and you'll give us the title of that artfully disguised bestseller.
> (No need to name the author.)

> For convenience in this medium I've sorted the questions into
> handout order. There was one decoy on the handout, which I've put
> in sequence with the others; answer that one if you like for fun,
> but for no points.

> 1. A (1962).

"A Clockwork Orange", by Anthony Burgess. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc,
Joshua, Bruce, and Jeff.

> 2. B (1987).

"Communion", by Whitley Streiber. 4 for Joshua and Jason.
3 for Dan Blum.

Yes, this book did come up on "Jeopardy!" about 2 days after the
original game.

> 3. (decoy) C.

"Charlotte's Web", by E.B. White. Dan Blum, Marc, Joshua, Jason,
and Bruce got this.

> 4. D (2005).

"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo", by Stieg Larsson. 4 for Dan Blum
and Joshua.

> 5. E (1966).

"Valley of the Dolls", by Jacqueline Susann. 4 for Marc, Bruce,
and Dan Tilque.

> 6. F (1969).

"The Godfather", by Mario Puzo. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Joshua, Jason,
Bruce, Jeff, Björn, and Dan Tilque.

> 7. G (1937).

"The Hobbit", by J.R.R. Tolkien. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Joshua,
Bruce, Jeff, and Dan Tilque.

It's a Polish edition; the letter in the subtitle that looks like
a ligature of "my" is actually "z".

> 8. H (circa 300 BC).

"The Kama Sutra", by Vatsyayana. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Peter,
Joshua, Bruce, Jeff, and Björn.

> 9. I (2011).

"Fifty Shades of Grey", by E.L. James. 4 for Marc, Peter, Joshua,
Jason, and Jeff.

> 10. J (2001).

"The Life of Pi", by Yann Martell. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Peter,
Joshua, Bruce, and Jeff.

> 11. K (1983).

"The Witches", by Roald Dahl. 4 for Dan Blum and Peter.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 2 3 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Geo Lit
Joshua Kreitzer 40 32 72
Dan Blum 32 31 63
Marc Dashevsky 28 28 56
Dan Tilque 36 12 48
Peter Smyth 28 16 44
Jeff Turner 16 24 40
Bruce Bowler 16 24 40
Rob Parker 32 0 32
Björn Lundin 20 8 28
Erland Sommarskog 28 0 28
Jason Kreitzer 8 12 20

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Mark Brader "Outside of nearly having two head-on collisions,
m...@vex.net we found driving in England to be fairly easy."
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Björn Lundin

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>
> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.

David Schwimmer

>
> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

Van Halen ? (guess by 'really got me' and David? (le Roth))

>
> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Seinfelt

>
> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.

Richard Gere


>
> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

Benzene

>
> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

Phosfor


>
> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?
Aceton

--
Björn

Jason Kreitzer

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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:51:12 AM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
> I'm starting this set now, but Rounds 2-3 are not yet closed as
> I post; you still have some hours to enter.
>
>
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-10-06,
> and should be interpreted accordingly.
>
> On each question you may give up to two answers, but if you give
> both a right answer and a wrong answer, there is a small penalty.
> Please post all your answers in a single followup to the newsgroup,
> based only on your own knowledge. (In your answer posting, quote
> the questions and place your answer below each one.) I will reveal
> the correct answers in about 3 days.
>
> All questions were written by members of Unnatural Axxxe, and are
> used here by permission, but have been reformatted and may have
> been retyped and/or edited by me. For further information see
> my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian
> Inquisition (QFTCI*)".
>
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't Know
>
> Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
> legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
> area of expertise.
>
> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.
Christopher Nolan
> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?
Desi Arnaz
> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.
Jennifer Aniston
> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.
The Kinks
> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".
Talking Heads
> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.
Andy Griffith
> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.
Richard Gere
> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.
Sam Peckinpah
Chalk

Bruce Bowler

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 23:51:10 -0500, Mark Brader wrote:

> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I
> Wouldn't Know
>

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffith

>
> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
>
> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.

Acetic Acid

> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

Ethanol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

Phosphate

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

Propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

Lye

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

Ammonia

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's
> that?

Acetone

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

Lime

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

Hydrogen Peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

Chalk (AKA Calcium Carbonate)

Peter Smyth

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Mark Brader wrote:

> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I
> Wouldn't Know
> Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
> legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
> area of expertise.
>
> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.
>
> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?
>
> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.
Schneider, Perry
> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.
The Kinks
> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".
Talking Heads
> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.
>
> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.
Richard Gere
> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.
>
> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.
Andy Serkis
> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
>
> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> As the Monsanto slogan says, "Without chemicals, life itself
> would be impossible." Notwithstanding the fact behind that it is
> impossible with some chemicals too, here's a round on household
> chemical compounds. In each case, where we give the formula for
> a compound, you give the everyday term for it.
>
> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.
>
> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?
Ethanol
> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.
Phosphate
> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.
Propane
> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.
>
> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.
Ammonia
> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O.
> What's that?
>
> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.
Lime
> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.
Hydrogen Peroxide
> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.
Chalk

Peter Smyth

Rob Parker

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> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't
> Know
>
> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

Desi Arnaz

> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

The Kinks

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffiths

> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

ethanol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

phosphate

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

lye

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

ammonia

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's
> that?

acetone

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

lime

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

hydrogen peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

chalk


Rob

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2014-10-06,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my 2014-09-15 companion posting on "Questions from the
> Canadian Inquisition (QFTCI*)".


> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated?
> I Wouldn't Know

> Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
> legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
> area of expertise.

> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.

Christopher Nolan. (Nominated for writing "Memento" and "Inception".)
4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan, and Jason.

> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

Desi Arnaz. ("I Love Lucy".) 4 for Marc, Joshua, Jason, and Rob.

Ricky Ricardo was his *character* on the show.

> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.

Courteney Cox.

Almost every *other* main cast member was guessed.

> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

The Kinks. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Jason, Peter, and Rob.

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Dan, Jason, Peter,
and Rob.

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffith. 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan, Jason, Bruce, and Rob.

> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.

Richard Gere. ("Pretty Woman".) 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan, Björn,
Jason, and Peter.

> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.

Sam Peckinpah. 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan, and Jason.

> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.

Andy Serkis. No points for "Andy Something"! 4 for Joshua, Dan,
and Peter.

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.

"The Glass Menagerie". 4 for Joshua and Dan.


> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds

> As the Monsanto slogan says, "Without chemicals, life itself
> would be impossible." Notwithstanding the fact behind that it is
> impossible *with* some chemicals too, here's a round on household
> chemical compounds. In each case, where we give the formula for
> a compound, you give the everyday term for it.

This was the easiest round in the original game.

> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.

Vinegar. 4 for Marc.

Acetic acid is not an "everyday term".

I missed this one myself in the original game, by the way; I'd never
realized that the stuff has such a simple formula.

> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

Ethanol (accepting ethyl alcohol or just alcohol). 4 for Marc,
Erland, Joshua, Dan, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

Phosphate. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

Propane. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

Lye or caustic soda. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Bruce, and Rob.

I believe Marc's complaints about the question are entirely correct.
I didn't want to figure out a good way to fix it.

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

Ammonia. 4 for Marc, Joshua, Dan, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.
3 for Erland.

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?

Acetone. 4 for Marc, Erland, Dan, Björn, Bruce, and Rob.

> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.

Lime. 4 for Marc, Dan, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.

> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

(Hydrogen) peroxide. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Dan, Bruce,
Peter, and Rob.

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

Chalk. 4 for Marc, Erland, Joshua, Dan, Jason, Bruce, Peter, and Rob.


Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Geo Lit Ent Sci
Joshua Kreitzer 40 32 36 28 136
Marc Dashevsky 28 28 28 40 124
Dan Blum 32 31 28 24 115
Peter Smyth 28 16 16 28 88
Rob Parker 32 0 16 36 84
Bruce Bowler 16 24 4 36 80
Erland Sommarskog 28 0 8 31 67
Jason Kreitzer 8 12 28 4 52
Dan Tilque 36 12 -- -- 48
Jeff Turner 16 24 -- -- 40
Björn Lundin 20 8 4 4 36

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Toronto more than a rich, powerful Canada...."
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Marc Dashevsky

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In article <E56dnc508Jej6s3J...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
> > 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> > kind of a Canadian thing.
>
> Vinegar. 4 for Marc.
>
> Acetic acid is not an "everyday term".
>
> I missed this one myself in the original game, by the way; I'd never
> realized that the stuff has such a simple formula.

It took me a while to get it because acetic acid
is usually writen as CH3COOH.

Erland Sommarskog

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Yeah, I was looking at the formula and I was not even able to piece the
atoms together to a molcecule.

With the correct formula I would have answered acetic acid anyway, which
translated to Swedish at least has to count as an everyday term. (Well,
"ättika" is. But you can buy "ättiksyra" in the stor. And, yes, "vinäger"
is a Swedish word to.)

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
>> I missed this one myself in the original game, by the way; I'd never
>> realized that the stuff has such a simple formula.

Marc Dashevsky:
> It took me a while to get it because acetic acid
> is usually writen as CH3COOH.

Ah, right, I've seen that. Which is why in the back of my mind somewhere
I had classified it as a compound made up of more than the two subunits
that the C2 in C2H4O2 suggests, but to get to "more than two", you need
to count OH as a separate subunit. It's

H
|
H-C-H
|
C=O
|
O
|
H

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m...@vex.net | --Washington Post, January 13, 2001

Jeffrey Turner

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On 10/26/2014 12:51 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 4 - Entertainment - An Honor to be Nominated? I Wouldn't Know
>
> Showbiz is a cruel mistress. The following people are considered
> legends, but were never even nominated for the big award in their
> area of expertise.
>
> 1. His films are cerebral and challenging and box-office hits.
> One of them, "Inception", was nominated for the Best Picture
> Oscar, and he has a couple of writing nominations as well.
> But he's never been nominated for Best Director. Name him.
>
> 2. He is considered the inventor of the three-camera sitcom,
> and co-starred with his wife in the biggest sitcom of the '50s.
> Yet he never received an Emmy nomination. Who he?

Desi Arnaz

> 3. I'll be there for you, except on awards night. Name the only
> cast member of "Friends" who never received an Emmy nomination.
>
> 4. They really got me, but these Rock'n'Roll Hall of Famers were
> not well-respected men by the Grammys. The Davies brothers
> never managed one nomination. Name that band.

The Kinks

> 5. And you may find yourself, without a Grammy nomination.
> And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did Justin Bieber get one?"
> Name that seminal New Wave band, with albums like "Remain in
> Light" and "More Songs about Buildings and Food".

Talking Heads

> 6. Don Knotts, as Barney Fife, got five Emmy nominations for Best
> Supporting Actor in a Comedy. But the guy whose name was in the
> sitcom's title never got an Emmy comedy nomination. Name him.

Andy Griffith

> 7. His co-star in a classic 1990 Cinderella comedy got nominated
> for a Best Actress Oscar for playing a Beverly Hills prostitute.
> But with a long list of classic films, this handsome leading man
> and celebrity Buddhist has never been nominated for Best Actor.
> Name him.

Gere

> 8. One of the most influential directors in history, the master of
> stylized violence, with films like "Straw Dogs", "The Wild
> Bunch", and "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia", also never
> got a Best Director Oscar nomination.

Bunuel

> 9. He is considered the master of motion-capture acting, playing
> Gollum in the "Lord of the Rings" movies, Caesar in the "Planet
> of the Apes" movies, and King Kong. But he is ineligible for
> an Oscar nomination, despite a groundswell of support for one.
> Name him.

Robot

> 10. This Tennessee Williams play has been produced 7 times on
> Broadway since 1945. But until this year -- when Brian J. Smith
> was nominated for playing the Gentleman Caller -- it had never
> received a single Tony Award nomination. Name that play about
> a domineering mother and her fearful children.
>
>
> * Game 4, Round 6 - Science - Household Chemical Compounds
>
> As the Monsanto slogan says, "Without chemicals, life itself
> would be impossible." Notwithstanding the fact behind that it is
> impossible *with* some chemicals too, here's a round on household
> chemical compounds. In each case, where we give the formula for
> a compound, you give the everyday term for it.
>
> 1. Don't go into an American restaurant and ask for C2H4O2: it's
> kind of a Canadian thing.
>
> 2. According to the disclaimer on most pumps, a certain percentage
> of the gas is C2H5OH. What's that?

Ethanol

> 3. Many household detergents advertise themselves as being free
> of PO4.

Phosphates

> 4. A standard tank refill of C3H8 currently runs from $20 to $28 --
> more on holiday weekends.

Propane

> 5. Both KOH and NaOH can be rendered to this stuff, also called
> potash. It's commonly used to make soap, and the USDA classifies
> some of it as "food grade". Name it.

Lye

> 6. Windex is one of the most famous examples of a cleaning solution
> whose active ingredient is NH3.

Ammonia

> 7 Nail polish remover and liquid paper both go heavy on C3H6O. What's that?
>
> 8. CaO or Ca(OH)2, it's used as a binding material in masonry,
> and is mixed with ferrous sulfate as a waste water treatment.
> Do not use this version in your gin and tonics.
>
> 9. Yeah, it hurts. But moms know H2O2 must be poured in painfully
> copious amounts on cuts. Name that stuff.

Peroxide

> 10. A prerequisite to games of hopscotch, CaCO3.

Chalk

--Jeff

Mark Brader

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If Jeff Turner had posted his answers on time, he would have scored
20 points on Round 4 and 28 on Round 6.
--
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m...@vex.net too much of the time." -- James Thurber

Jeffrey Turner

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On 11/1/2014 4:22 AM, Mark Brader wrote:
> If Jeff Turner had posted his answers on time, he would have scored
> 20 points on Round 4 and 28 on Round 6.

If you hadn't hidden it in another thread, I probably would have
seen it in time to answer.

--Jeff

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
>> If Jeff Turner had posted his answers on time, he would have scored
>> 20 points on Round 4 and 28 on Round 6.

Jeff Turner:
> If you hadn't hidden it in another thread, I probably would have
> seen it in time to answer.

Sorry about that. But if you had read the Rounds 2-3 answers posting,
you would have seen where I called attention to my error.
--
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Toronto | phase of the moon, the programmer should be prepared
m...@vex.net | to look out the window as necessary." -- Chris Torek

Jeffrey Turner

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On 11/2/2014 11:56 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
> Mark Brader:
>>> If Jeff Turner had posted his answers on time, he would have scored
>>> 20 points on Round 4 and 28 on Round 6.
>
> Jeff Turner:
>> If you hadn't hidden it in another thread, I probably would have
>> seen it in time to answer.
>
> Sorry about that. But if you had read the Rounds 2-3 answers posting,
> you would have seen where I called attention to my error.

I don't always catch up with the results right away, as they don't
change.

--Jeff
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