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Mark Brader

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Nov 6, 2012, 12:41:53 PM11/6/12
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Looks like I got distracted last night and failed to post this.
Here is it now.

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* Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English

The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
called a "French press".

We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.

1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
advantage of a situation.

3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

4. High waistline style.

5. Large colorful sea slug.

6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
simultaneously.

7. A childhood disease.

8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
shaped like a star.

10. Cheese sauce over toast.


* Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game

We give you the objective; you name the game.

1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
falling over.

4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
opponent's armies.

5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
paintings have been sold.

6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
and who did it.

7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
home board.

8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
opponent to solve your code.

10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

--
Mark Brader "Poor spelling does not prove poor knowledge,
Toronto but is fatal to the argument by intimidation."
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Dan Blum

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Nov 6, 2012, 12:49:54 PM11/6/12
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English

> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff

> 4. High waistline style.

Empire waist
(The French Empire WAS a country.)

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan

> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game

> We give you the objective; you name the game.

> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candyland

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

Jenga

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk
(although this is somewhat obsolete)

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

Masterpiece

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue (aka Cluedo)

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Chutes & Ladders (aka Snakes & Ladders)

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Mancala
(not a good question, as there are lots of mancala games with
different names - I know, not your question)

--
_______________________________________________________________________
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"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

John Masters

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Nov 6, 2012, 1:40:43 PM11/6/12
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On 2012-11-06 17:41:53 +0000, Mark Brader said:
>
> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
> often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
> in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
> called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
> called a "French press".
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian Roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican stand off

>
> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.
>
> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

>
> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish pastry

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese chequers

>
> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit

>
> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.
>
> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary

>
> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

>
> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

Pictionary

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Cluedo

>
> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

>
> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Snakes & Ladders

>
> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

>
> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Mancala
--
John Masters

Of those who say nothing, few are silent.
- Thomas Neill

Marc Dashevsky

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Nov 6, 2012, 1:53:51 PM11/6/12
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In article <5M6dnaUygIt81gTN...@vex.net>, m...@vex.net says...
> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
> often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
> in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
> called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
> called a "French press".
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.
Russian roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.
Mexican standoff

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.
>
> 7. A childhood disease.
German measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.
Danish

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.
Chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.
Welsh rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.
Candy Land

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.
>
> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
Jango

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.
Risk

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.
>
> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.
Clue

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.
Chinese checkers

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.
Chutes and Ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.
>
> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.
Mancala

Mark Brader

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Nov 6, 2012, 2:37:55 PM11/6/12
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Dan Blum:
> Risk
> (although this is somewhat obsolete)

I understand that the version I posted was the first one to be published
in English, but there have been both earlier and later versions with
other rules. As a matter of interested, what did you have in mind?

> (not a good question, as there are lots of mancala games with
> different names - I know, not your question)

I'm prepared to accept multiple answers.
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Joachim Parsch

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Am 06.11.2012 18:41, schrieb Mark Brader:
>
> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
> often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
> in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
> called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
> called a "French press".
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan

> 7. A childhood disease.
>
> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.
>
> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Sounds like that halma version, but I have no idea how you
call that in Canada.

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.
>
>
> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.

I actually played a lot of board games when younger. But
of course we had other games or a bit different games
than you...

> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.
>
> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.
>
> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk
(it's called "Risiko" over here, so I translated that)

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.
>
> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Cluedo

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

There must be lots of games with this objective...
The Goose Game has less squares IIRC, but this ladder game
(where you gain or lose ground whenever you reach a ladder)
has 100 of them, I think.


> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Kalaha

Joachim

Dan Blum

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:04:45 PM11/6/12
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Dan Blum:
> > Risk
> > (although this is somewhat obsolete)

> I understand that the version I posted was the first one to be published
> in English, but there have been both earlier and later versions with
> other rules. As a matter of interested, what did you have in mind?

Versions of Risk published in the US since approximately 1993 (and
I think earlier in Europe) have had other possible objectives. I
said "somewhat" because conquering all territories is still one
way to win, so it's not that bad a question.

>
> > (not a good question, as there are lots of mancala games with
> > different names - I know, not your question)

> I'm prepared to accept multiple answers.

I should probably also note here that not all mancala-family games
necessarily have the same objective. I don't know that much about
them.

swp

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:22:14 PM11/6/12
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On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:41:53 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:
> Looks like I got distracted last night and failed to post this.

congratulations Mr. Brader

> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

russian roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.

opportunism ?

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

mexican standoff

> 4. High waistline style.

empire ?

> 5. Large colorful sea slug.

nudibranch ?

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

virus ; malware ?

> 7. A childhood disease.

german measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

swiss roll

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

welsh rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

candy land

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

pictionary

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

jenga

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

risk

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

masterpiece

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

clue ; cluedo

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

chutes and ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

mancala ; kalah


swp, who could swear he knows more from round 4 and has heard them on this newsgroup before in a similar puzzle/game circumstance.

Peter Smyth

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"Mark Brader" wrote in message
news:5M6dnaUygIt81gTN...@vex.net...

>* Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
>The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
>often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
>in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
>called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
>called a "French press".
>
>We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
>the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
>former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
>1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.
Russian Roulette
>2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
>3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.
Spanish Duel
>4. High waistline style.
>
>5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
>6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.
Trojan Horse
>7. A childhood disease.
German Measles
>8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.
Danish Pastry
>9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.
Chinese Checkers
>10. Cheese sauce over toast.
Welsh Rarebit
>
>* Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
>We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
>1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.
Game of Life
>2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.
Pictionary
>3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
Jenga
>4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.
Risk
>5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.
>
>6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.
Cluedo
>7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.
Backgammon
>8. Be the first person to reach square #100.
Snakes and Ladders
>9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.
Mastermind
>10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.
Nine Mens Morris

Peter Smyth

Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 6, 2012, 9:45:00 PM11/6/12
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Mark Brader (m...@vex.net) writes:
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian Roulette

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican Standoff

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan Horse

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Swiss Roll

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

China chesss

[I'm on a conference this week, so my answers are very rashed. I did not
even look at the second set; seemed to complicated.]i

--
Erland Sommarskog, Stockholm, esq...@sommarskog.se

Mark Brader

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Joachim Parsch:
> There must be lots of games with this objective...
> The Goose Game has less squares IIRC, but this ladder game
> (where you gain or lose ground whenever you reach a ladder)
> has 100 of them, I think.

"This" ladder game?
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Joshua Kreitzer

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:35:07 AM11/7/12
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in
news:5M6dnaUygIt81gTN...@vex.net:

> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan horse

> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish pastry

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candy Land

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

Jenga

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Chutes and Ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

--
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com

Joachim Parsch

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Nov 7, 2012, 1:43:15 AM11/7/12
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Mark Brader schrieb:
>
> Joachim Parsch:
> > There must be lots of games with this objective...
> > The Goose Game has less squares IIRC, but this ladder game
> > (where you gain or lose ground whenever you reach a ladder)
> > has 100 of them, I think.
>
> "This" ladder game?

Well, errr, this game, you know, with the ladders, I mean
this ladder game, don't you know, what I mean?

I simply had no idea how it's "officially" called, I have
only seen it as a part of "Spielesammlungen" (compilations of
several board games, normally chess, checkers, Mensch ärgere
dich nicht, etc.)

And our current variation has only ladders, no snakes (you
go down, when you hit the top end of a ladder). And I don't
claim any points fro thsi answer, of course :-)

Joachim

Dan Tilque

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:57:38 AM11/7/12
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Mark Brader wrote:
>
> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
> often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
> in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
> called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
> called a "French press".
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette

>
> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff

>
> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.

Portuguese man-o-war ??

>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan horse

>
> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

>
> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish pastry

>
> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers

>
> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit

>
>
> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candyland

>
> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary?

>
> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

>
> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.
>
> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue

>
> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

backgammon

>
> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Concentration?

>
> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

>
> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Go

--
Dan Tilque

Human history becomes more and more a race between education and
catastrophe.
-- H G Wells

Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:58:33 AM11/7/12
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Erland Sommarskog (esq...@sommarskog.se) writes:
> China chesss

For information: a direct translation of the Swedish name.

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> > "This" ladder game?

Joachim Parsch:
> Well, errr, this game, you know, with the ladders, I mean
> this ladder game, don't you know, what I mean?

Okay, you meant "the". I suspected as much. Thanks.
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"Forget it, Louis. No Civil War picture ever made a nickel."

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Erland Sommarskog:
> > China chesss
>
> For information: a direct translation of the Swedish name.

Interesting. *This* is the game I know as Chinese chess:

http://www.yangshuo-travel-guide.com/images/guangzhou04.jpg
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Gareth Owen

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Nov 7, 2012, 4:46:06 AM11/7/12
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:

> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian Roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican Standoff

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan Horse

> 7. A childhood disease.

German Measels

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish Pastry

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese Chequers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh Rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candyland

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

Jenga

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk (boring, vanilla, non "secret mission" version)

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

????

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Cluedo

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Snakes & Ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Go??

Bruce Bowler

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:15:52 AM11/7/12
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Russian Roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican Stand Off

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.
>
> 7. A childhood disease.

German Measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese Checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welch Rarebit (some say rabbit, but I say they're wrong :-)

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.
>
> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary?

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.
>
> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.
>
> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

That old Egyptian game who's name escapes me at the momemt

Bruce

Dan Blum

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:05:27 AM11/7/12
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:
> Erland Sommarskog:
> > > China chesss
> >
> > For information: a direct translation of the Swedish name.
>
> Interesting. *This* is the game I know as Chinese chess:

> http://www.yangshuo-travel-guide.com/images/guangzhou04.jpg

Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
game in Sweden?

Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:08:10 AM11/7/12
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Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
> Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
> game in Sweden?
>

No idea. I've not seen it before.

Dan Blum

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:13:20 AM11/7/12
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Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> > Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
> > Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
> > game in Sweden?
> >

> No idea. I've not seen it before.

Google Translate (which may or may not be reliable on this point)
says "Chinese chess" is "Kinesiskt schack" whereas "Chinese checkers"
is "Kinaschack," which is nothing if not confusing. "Schack" is
obviously cognate to "chess." "Checkers" is "damspel," as might
be expected.

Joachim Parsch

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:13:50 AM11/7/12
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Erland Sommarskog schrieb:
>
> Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> > Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
> > Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
> > game in Sweden?
> >
>
> No idea. I've not seen it before.

According to Wikipedia it is called Xiangqi in Sweden and Germany.

Joachim

Joachim Parsch

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:19:39 AM11/7/12
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Dan Blum schrieb:
>
> Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> > Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> > > Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
> > > Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
> > > game in Sweden?
> > >
>
> > No idea. I've not seen it before.
>
> Google Translate (which may or may not be reliable on this point)
> says "Chinese chess" is "Kinesiskt schack" whereas "Chinese checkers"
> is "Kinaschack," which is nothing if not confusing.

Obviously Google knows, that "Chinese checkers" is called "Kinaschack"
in Swedish, while Google doesn't know, how the Swedish call "Chinese Chess",
so it uses the literal translation of the two single words.

The Swedish WP article for "Chinese Chess" remarks, that you should
not confuse it with "Kinaschack", so you're not the only one who is
confused by all this :-)

> "Schack" is
> obviously cognate to "chess." "Checkers" is "damspel," as might
> be expected.

Checkers is "Dame" (i.e. "Lady") in German, Swedish "damspel"
translates literally to "Ladygame".

Joachim

Dan Blum

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Nov 7, 2012, 1:08:33 PM11/7/12
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Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de> wrote:


> Dan Blum schrieb:
> >
> > Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
> > > Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
> > > > Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
> > > > Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
> > > > game in Sweden?
> > > >
> >
> > > No idea. I've not seen it before.
> >
> > Google Translate (which may or may not be reliable on this point)
> > says "Chinese chess" is "Kinesiskt schack" whereas "Chinese checkers"
> > is "Kinaschack," which is nothing if not confusing.

> Obviously Google knows, that "Chinese checkers" is called "Kinaschack"
> in Swedish, while Google doesn't know, how the Swedish call "Chinese Chess",
> so it uses the literal translation of the two single words.

> The Swedish WP article for "Chinese Chess" remarks, that you should
> not confuse it with "Kinaschack", so you're not the only one who is
> confused by all this :-)

So what does the Swedish WP article say the Swedish name is?

> > "Schack" is
> > obviously cognate to "chess." "Checkers" is "damspel," as might
> > be expected.

> Checkers is "Dame" (i.e. "Lady") in German, Swedish "damspel"
> translates literally to "Ladygame".

IIRC most European languages except English call checkers by a name
related to "dame" (also except the Slavic languages, apparently -
Russian uses "shaski"). Not sure how English ended up with "checkers" and
"draughts" instead of something French-derived.

Dan Blum

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I'm pretty sure Germans do not use that (Chinese) name any more than
English-speakers do (which is to say, occasionally). I have certainly
seen it called "Chinesisches Schach" in German.

Joachim Parsch

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Am 07.11.2012 19:12, schrieb Dan Blum:
> Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de> wrote:
[Chinese Chess]
>> According to Wikipedia it is called Xiangqi in Sweden and Germany.
>
> I'm pretty sure Germans do not use that (Chinese) name any more than
> English-speakers do (which is to say, occasionally). I have certainly
> seen it called "Chinesisches Schach" in German.

You are right, the WP article mentions it. I have never played
the game, nor have I seen someone playing it. So I don't know,
which name is actually used, but probably it is "chinesisches
Schach".

The Swedish WP mentions "Kinesiskt Schack" as well, so maybe
that's just the usual name of the game.

Joachim

Stan Brown

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:18:17 PM11/7/12
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:41:53 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian Roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff

> 4. High waistline style.

Empire waist

> 5. Large colorful sea slug.

Portuguese man-o'-war

(Is it really a sea slug? Or else you were thinking of a different
animal.)

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan horse

(The original Trojan horse was of course Greek, not Trojan, as
Bernard Woolley delighted to point out.)

> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish pastry would be the phrase, but I always call it Danish

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rabbit

You forgot:

French leave
Dutch courage
Dutch uncle
Fine Italian hand

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candyland

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

Jenga

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

Art World?

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Chutes and Ladders (US) or I believe Snakes and Ladders (UK, CDN)

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.
>
> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.



--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

robpparker SPAM @foroptusnet.com.aume Rob Parker

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> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican stand-off

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.

Spanish Dancer

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

trojan horse

> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish pastry

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit

> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Cluedo

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Snakes & Ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Go (?)


Rob


calvin

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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 03:41:53 +1000, Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:


> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English
>
> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian Roulette

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.
>
> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican Standoff

> 4. High waistline style.
>
> 5. Large colorful sea slug.
>
> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Java

> 7. A childhood disease.

German Measles

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Danish

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese Checkers

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit


> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game
>
> We give you the objective; you name the game.
>
> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

The Game of Life?

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary?

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.
>
> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

Tycoon?

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Cluedo

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Snakes & Ladders

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

I played this plenty of times as a kid but can't recall the name...

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Dunno

You sunk my battleship.

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cheers,
calvin

calvin

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Nov 7, 2012, 7:12:02 PM11/7/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:19:39 +1000, Joachim Parsch <s...@bunuel.franken.de>
wrote:

>
>
> Dan Blum schrieb:
>>
>> Erland Sommarskog <esq...@sommarskog.se> wrote:
>> > Dan Blum (to...@panix.com) writes:
>> > > Yes, that is called Chinese chess in English. And it's actually
>> > > Chinese, unlike Chinese checkers. I wonder what they call this
>> > > game in Sweden?
>> > >
>>
>> > No idea. I've not seen it before.
>>
>> Google Translate (which may or may not be reliable on this point)
>> says "Chinese chess" is "Kinesiskt schack" whereas "Chinese checkers"
>> is "Kinaschack," which is nothing if not confusing.
>
> Obviously Google knows, that "Chinese checkers" is called "Kinaschack"
> in Swedish, while Google doesn't know, how the Swedish call "Chinese
> Chess",
> so it uses the literal translation of the two single words.
>
> The Swedish WP article for "Chinese Chess" remarks, that you should
> not confuse it with "Kinaschack", so you're not the only one who is
> confused by all this :-)

My brain is starting to hurt :-)


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calvin

Mark Brader

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Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-04-30,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information
> see my companion posting on "Questions from the Canadian Inquisition
> (QFTCI*)".


> * Game 1, Round 4 - Geography - Foreign references in English

> The names of foreign countries, or a corresponding adjective,
> often appear as part of an expression in English -- and not always
> in a good sense. For example, a prostitute or sex doll has been
> called a "Dutch wife"; a modern style of coffee maker has been
> called a "French press".

> We will give you the definition; you give us the phrase involving
> the country. Countries may repeat. *Note*: Answers may involve
> former countries or may only indirectly use the country's name.

> 1. A dangerous game involving revolvers.

Russian roulette. 4 for everyone -- Dan Blum, John, Marc, Joachim,
Stephen, Peter, Erland, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan,
Rob, and Calvin.

> 2. Opportunity for an individual or a party to very easily take
> advantage of a situation.

Turkey shoot.

> 3. Confrontation between three opponents facing each other.

Mexican standoff. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Joachim, Stephen,
Erland, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

The term is also used for situations not involving three opponents
that are in some way analogous; Wikipedia has a decent discussion.

> 4. High waistline style.

French (Empire) cut. I think "Empire" alone was accepted in the
original game; anyway, I'm accepting it. 4 for Dan Blum, Stephen,
and Stan.

> 5. Large colorful sea slug.

Spanish dancer. 4 for Rob.

See: http://www.ukdivers.net/life/rs/spanish_dancer.jpg

> 6. Software that performs a desirable and a covert effect
> simultaneously.

Trojan horse. 4 for Dan Blum, Joachim, Peter, Erland, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Stan, and Rob.

> 7. A childhood disease.

German measles. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Stephen, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

> 8. A sweet roll, often for breakfast.

Toasted Danish. I accepted Danish (the usual term in my experience)
or Danish pastry. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

I don't think Swiss rolls are particularly associated with breakfast.

> 9. A board game for 2-6 players where the playing surface is
> shaped like a star.

Chinese checkers. I did not accept "China chess" as a translation
from Swedish; I would have if this question had occurred in the
following round, but this round asked specifically for expressions
used in English. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Stephen, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

> 10. Cheese sauce over toast.

Welsh rarebit (or rabbit). 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Stephen,
Peter, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.


> * Game 1, Round 6 - Sports & Leisure - Object of the Game

> We give you the objective; you name the game.

As well as other names for the given games, which some people gave,
I was prepared to accept additional answers if there were other
games fitting the descriptions, but there weren't any. Sheesh --
didn't *anybody* ever play Blockhead?

> 1. Be the first person to get around the board, through the
> Molasses Swamp, and reach Home Sweet Home.

Candyland. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Stephen, Joshua, Dan Tilque,
Gareth, and Stan.

> 2. When you reach the final square, identify the image being
> drawn by your teammate before your opponents do the same.

Pictionary. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Stephen, Peter, Joshua, Dan Tilque,
Gareth, Bruce, Stan, and Calvin.

> 3. Be the last person to stack a block without the tower
> falling over.

Jenga. 4 for Dan Blum, Marc, Stephen, Peter, Joshua, Gareth,
and Stan.

> 4. Occupy all 42 territories on the board by eliminating your
> opponent's armies.

Risk. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Joachim, Stephen, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

> 5. To be the person who has acquired the largest fortune in
> paintings and cash at the end of the game when all the bank's
> paintings have been sold.

Masterpiece. 4 for Dan Blum and Stephen.

> 6. Be the first to determine how and where the victim was killed,
> and who did it.

Clue (aka Cluedo). 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Joachim, Stephen,
Peter, Joshua, Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

> 7. Be the first person to bear off all 15 of your men from your
> home board.

Backgammon. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Joachim, Stephen, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, Stan, Rob, and Calvin.

> 8. Be the first person to reach square #100.

Snakes and ladders (aka chutes and ladders, etc.). 4 for Dan Blum,
John, Marc, Joachim, Stephen, Peter, Joshua, Gareth, Stan, Rob,
and Calvin.

> 9. Solve your opponent's code in fewer moves than it takes your
> opponent to solve your code.

Mastermind. 4 for Dan Blum, John, Joachim, Stephen, Peter, Joshua,
Dan Tilque, Gareth, Bruce, and Rob.

> 10. Once there are no more stones in the hollows, to have more
> stones in your store than your opponent has in their store.

Mancala (aka kalah, etc.). 4 for Dan Blum, John, Marc, Joachim,
and Stephen.


Scores, if there are no errors:

ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> His Lit Geo Spo
Stephen Perry 28 32 24 40 124
Dan Blum 10 40 32 40 122
Joshua Kreitzer 13 40 28 32 113
Gareth Owen 2 36 28 32 98
Marc Dashevsky 12 32 24 24 92
Dan Tilque 12 28 28 24 92
Stan Brown 0 28 32 28 88
John Masters 8 24 24 28 84
Rob Parker 9 20 32 20 81
Peter Smyth 11 12 24 28 75
Joachim Parsch 8 24 12 24 68
"Calvin" 11 12 24 20 67
Bruce Bowler -- -- 24 20 44
Pete Gayde 8 12 -- -- 20
Erland Sommarskog 4 3 12 0 19

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