Drew Tucker!
Sprint
I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good! Unless you
can draw better than him, don't complain! One of my favorites is his
Necrite; faceless, humanoid creatures that fight eachother and smell
funny are just what I thought of when I heard the name!
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Kevincron <Kevi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
>>better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>>Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>>Both he and Tucker look like they sneezed on a canvas and tried to
>>reshape it into something recognizable.
>That's nice that you have such a strong opinion.
>But I have a question:
>Where did you get your Drew Tucker *drawings*?
>I've only seen his *paintings* on some of my game cards and magazines.
>:)
>Kevin
No, you only saw printings of his paintings, if you want to get
absurdly technical about it.
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> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
> >Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
Richard Kane Ferguson Sucks?!?!?!?!
Well that's a new one....
You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
Ha!
ReD
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'cause you arse belongs to me!!"
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TymTnnl
Okay, but just what IS Holy Light?
A naked guy puking over a bannister doesn't evoke "holy light" in my
mind's eye.
PWD
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Brian Roberts
Sprint (Spr...@hotmail.com) wrote:
: I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good! Unless you
: can draw better than him, don't complain! One of my favorites is his
: Necrite; faceless, humanoid creatures that fight eachother and smell
: funny are just what I thought of when I heard the name!
Drew Tucker is one of my favorite artists....
Dandan and Arjoldns Ascent (Whatever way it is spelt) has some of the
deepest artwork on them that I have ever seen...
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Sprint wrote:
>
> I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good! Unless you
> can draw better than him, don't complain! One of my favorites is his
> Necrite; faceless, humanoid creatures that fight eachother and smell
> funny are just what I thought of when I heard the name!
scares me. :)
-Paul T.
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tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk wrote:
>> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
>> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>> >Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>Richard Kane Ferguson Sucks?!?!?!?!
>Well that's a new one....
>You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
>Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
I like Snoddy's Boomerang much better. Desertion is terrible! The
picture makes NO SENSE AT ALL!
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dunv...@mindspring.com (joseph dunville) wrote:
>ryanph@*remove this*mindspring.com (R˙an) wrote:
>>Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
>>better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>>Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>>Both he and Tucker look like they sneezed on a canvas and tried to
>>reshape it into something recognizable.
>>
> I thought illustrators and cartoonists drew and filled in with color
>and artists painted useing oils, acrylics and watercolors.
>Do you draw or paint?
I prefer to use colored pencils.
YoungBeard
I really like the Farrel's Zealot that Drew Tucker did.
But some of his artwork really sucks, too. I hated the Necrite.
Liked Infernal Denizen. Hated Holy Light.
Gosh, is it possible that artists have good and bad days?
chris.
P.S. I think Douglas Shuler's art stinks! All of it!
Adam!!!
> That's nice that you have such a strong opinion.
> But I have a question:
>
> Where did you get your Drew Tucker *drawings*?
>
> I've only seen his *paintings* on some of my game cards and magazines.
>
> :)
>
> Kevin
I've never seen them but I'd bet his drawings are also fabulous. His
abstract/impressionistic work compliments the other work in Magic
beautifully, if you ask me.
I can understand not liking his work, but to slam it is unfair to all
artists that choose not to work with photo-realism. If it was easy to do
what Tucker does, everyone would do it. Most of us are stuck with reality
as the basis for our art and expression. Tucker is not so limited.
Just my opinion.
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Bennett
In article <337C22...@mech.port.ac.uk>
>
>Well that's a new one....
>
>You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
>
>Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
>
Personally, I'm getting sick of RKF's art. It's just too busy. Kind of
reminds me of MTV, something for those with a very very short attention
span. They're okay, but they're getting a little repetitive and annoying.
Bennett Campbell
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Ninety percent of everything is crap (Theodore Sturgeon)
Bennett
In article <5li5fh$7...@camel2.mindspring.com>
ryanph@*remove this*mindspring.com (R an) writes:
>> I thought illustrators and cartoonists drew and filled in with color
>>and artists painted useing oils, acrylics and watercolors.
>
>>Do you draw or paint?
>
>I prefer to use colored pencils.
>
Personally, he's one of the best watercolor artists I've ever seen. To test
out what the other guy was saying, get some watercolors, and try to paint
a Necrite yourself. Or, actually, take the Shiavn Dragon. try to paint
something big, mena, evil, relentless... put a feeling into it.
That is Tucker's strong point. He can evoke a feeling thru simple watercolor.
Not mnay people can do that.
Jonathan Cooper
R˙an wrote:
>
> tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk wrote:
>
> >> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
> >> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>
> >Richard Kane Ferguson Sucks?!?!?!?!
>
> >Well that's a new one....
>
> >You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
>
> >Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
>
> picture makes NO SENSE AT ALL!
I agree with you on Desertion. WoTC should never have let RKF near any
type of counterspell. It just doesn't work. I think his work on
creatures tend to be better. He seems to work best when given a specific
focal point. Sol Ka'nar and Dakkon are his to best works, IMHO. His
style is perfect for the legendary types.
Jonathan Cooper
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Kevincron
>>I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good! Unless you
>>can draw better than him, don't complain! One of my favorites is his
>>Necrite; faceless, humanoid creatures that fight eachother and smell
>>funny are just what I thought of when I heard the name!
>
>better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>reshape it into something recognizable.
That's nice that you have such a strong opinion.
Raver Efreet
tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk wrote:
>
> > >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
> > >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
> > >Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>
>
> Well that's a new one....
>
> You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
>
> Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
>
Didnt he do order of the ebon hand? One of my all-time favorites.
raver efreet
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TymTnnl (tym...@aol.com) wrote:
: Okay, but just what IS Holy Light?
: A naked guy puking over a bannister doesn't evoke "holy light" in my
: mind's eye.
The expansion it came from _is_ The Dark, which was supposed to have
cards representing the twisted side of each colors theme. Just because
it's a 'Holy Light' doesn't make it any less painful for the 'unholy.' ;)
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WGuest User wrote:
>
> Sprint wrote:
> >
> > I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good! Unless you
> > can draw better than him, don't complain! One of my favorites is his
> > Necrite; faceless, humanoid creatures that fight eachother and smell
> > funny are just what I thought of when I heard the name!
> scares me. :)
>
Sprint
I dijoseph dunville wrote:
>
> ryanph@*remove this*mindspring.com (R˙an) wrote:
>
> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
> >Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
> >reshape it into something recognizable.
> >
> and artists painted useing oils, acrylics and watercolors.
>
all-time-favorite artist! :) ESPECIALLY on Rage. Too bad I don't like
the game.
joseph dunville
Christian Schulzke
In article <337B91...@hotmail.com>, says...
> I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good!
He sucks, horrible art.
Unless you
> can draw better than him, don't complain!
My cat can draw better than him. Seriously though his work looks like
somone smeared (not painted) water color on canvass and then hung the
finished projet out in the rain for an hour or two. They guys just has
no skill whatsoever which is why he paints abstract, it requires no
skill.
Bennett
In article <MPG.de6ecaea...@news.mind.net>
Oce...@mind.net (Christian Schulzke) writes:
>My cat can draw better than him. Seriously though his work looks like
>somone smeared (not painted) water color on canvass and then hung the
>finished projet out in the rain for an hour or two. They guys just has
>no skill whatsoever which is why he paints abstract, it requires no
>skill.
Uncontrollable. Ask any artist worth his/her salt and they'll tell you
that watercolor is one of the most difficult mediums to paint in. One
reason you don't see many people doing it.
And he has skill, much more than you, I, or many people reading this NG.
To say that impressionism requires no skill only points to you rlack of
understanding of art and your ignorance.
Bennett
In article <wildcard-160...@w11-61.wizards.com>
wild...@wizards.com (Adam!!!) writes:
>I can understand not liking his work, but to slam it is unfair to all
>artists that choose not to work with photo-realism. If it was easy to do
>what Tucker does, everyone would do it. Most of us are stuck with reality
>as the basis for our art and expression. Tucker is not so limited.
>
durnik
In article <337C22...@mech.port.ac.uk>, <tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
>> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
>> >Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
>
>Well that's a new one....
>You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
>Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
To me, the problem with RKF is that they used the same art of his
for Desertion, Boomerang, Dissipate, both Arcane Denials, and Essence
Flare. (Come on... look at 'em... you KNOW it's just a touch-up every
time! <g>)
He's good, but his best work is that which is most off kilter for
him, such as the Thrull he did and Earthquake.
- Mike Bahr - dur...@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
Alan L Chase
In article <337C22...@mech.port.ac.uk>, <tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
>> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
Too bad he doesn't draw.
He paints.
Dipshit.
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>Hey, how boring would it be if there were none of these "Crappy" artists
>like Drew Tucker, Phil & Kaja, RKF, etc? MY GOD IT'D BE LIKE WYVERN ART!
> *clap clap clap* (Not that it's bad, just repetitive) :)
Hey, I actually kind of like the Foglios...
TymTnnl
>>>Ninety percent of everything is crap
Including Tucker's art.
Timdog
Bennett wrote:
> That is Tucker's strong point. He can evoke a feeling thru simple watercolor.
> Not mnay people can do that.
I'm actually a phenominal fingerpainter.
I still wouldn't want to subject anyone to any of my artwork on a Magic
Card. It just wouldn't fit.
That's the point -- Drew Tucker's art is shit because he uses a medium
that isn't appropriate to his subject matter and audience.
Also, a necrite isn't a feeling. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but a
feeling it isn't.
About RKF's work, the older stuff was better -- I think he's been
churning stuff out on a pretty mechanical basis: "Hey, Rich, toss
together another counterspell pic for us!"
--
Timdog
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"It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, but the size of
the fight in the dog."
Chris Otwell
> >>Richard Kane Ferguson sucks too.
I disagree. Ferguson's work is among my favorites of all time, and include the
art for the 5th EarthQuake, Arcane Denail, and 5th Recall.
Chris
Sprint
justin nicholls
On 20 May 1997, Ralph Ciper wrote:
just following on from the drew tucker thread, I find a lot of his
artwork to be pretty bland/shapeless/ill-defined. while it may be entirely
different to any other current magic artist (and thus unique), it is still
difficult for me to appreciate. some of the worst art in magic has imo
been done by tucker (although any of his art that I feel is substandard is
easily beaten by kathryn rathke's dread specter from mirage). he has,
however, done some good pieces; the first to come to mind would be
repentant blacksmith and harmattan efreet. sadly, the good cards are
definitely out-numbered by the bad (decomposition, musician, etc.).
> My favorite artwork is done by Quinton Hoover, the art I spend the most
> time observing is Drew Tucker's. I never could do watercolors.
my favourite artwork is done by (the dearly departed) robert
bliss, whom I wish wotc would ask back for another expansion. the artwork
I spend most time looking at would probably be rkf, if only because there
is so much there to see. adam rex, however, is soon going to be king of
the magic art universe ;)
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justin nicholls (s32...@student.uq.edu.au) wrote:
: On 20 May 1997, Ralph Ciper wrote:
:
: definitely out-numbered by the bad (decomposition, musician, etc.).
:
I agree that decomposition is not that good at all but I find
Musician fine and moody.
: > My favorite artwork is done by Quinton Hoover, the art I spend the most
: > time observing is Drew Tucker's. I never could do watercolors.
:
: my favourite artwork is done by (the dearly departed) robert
: bliss, whom I wish wotc would ask back for another expansion. the artwork
: I spend most time looking at would probably be rkf, if only because there
: is so much there to see. adam rex, however, is soon going to be king of
: the magic art universe ;)
:
It is all matter of taste. I like Tucker and his style. My all
time personal favourites are Total War, Chaos cards from IA (by
Tucker) and the messiest picture of them all: Leshrac's Sigil.
But nowadays I am bit bored too see RKF:s pictures. They have
started to look same (and lame)....
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Ralph Ciper
Christian Schulzke <Oce...@mind.net> wrote in article
<MPG.de6ecaea...@news.mind.net>...
> In article <337B91...@hotmail.com>, says...
> > I wish people'd stop making fun of Drew Tucker, he's good!
>
> He sucks, horrible art.
>
> Unless you
> > can draw better than him, don't complain!
>
> somone smeared (not painted) water color on canvass and then hung the
> finished projet out in the rain for an hour or two. They guys just has
> no skill whatsoever which is why he paints abstract, it requires no
> skill.
>
I personally love some Drew Tucker's work. Some I hate at first, then
later I see the rest of the picture. For example: Dandan at first glance
looks like two boats siting peacefully on the water, THEN you see the giant
fish comming to the surface. When making art (vs. Illustrations), the
viewer is not supposted to see all the picture in a single glance. I will
admit some of Drew Tucker's are harder to see than the stereograms at the
mall.
I like the variation in the art of Magic, but some of the new photo-real
stuff could be taken with a camera, or generated with a computer. Now that
stuff is crap art. IMHO, all magic art should have two qualities: the
first, and most important, it should be reconizable from all other magic
cards artwork, and second, it should convey the spells intention or
subject.
My favorite artwork is done by Quinton Hoover, the art I spend the most
time observing is Drew Tucker's. I never could do watercolors.
Ralph
Stephen B Laird
justin nicholls wrote:
>
> On 20 May 1997, Ralph Ciper wrote:
>
> artwork to be pretty bland/shapeless/ill-defined. while it may be entirely
> different to any other current magic artist (and thus unique), it is still
> difficult for me to appreciate. some of the worst art in magic has imo
> been done by tucker (although any of his art that I feel is substandard is
> easily beaten by kathryn rathke's dread specter from mirage). he has,
> however, done some good pieces; the first to come to mind would be
> repentant blacksmith and harmattan efreet. sadly, the good cards are
>
> > time observing is Drew Tucker's. I never could do watercolors.
>
> bliss, whom I wish wotc would ask back for another expansion. the artwork
> I spend most time looking at would probably be rkf, if only because there
> is so much there to see. adam rex, however, is soon going to be king of
> the magic art universe ;)
Finally, someone else who mentions Robert Bliss as one of the best
artists. I'm the most bitter about him not coming back for the new
sets, as far as I can tell. I think he had the best combination of
technical ability with creativity out of just about anyone in the new
sets. How can anyone not like Skulking Ghost or Ekundu Cyclops?
I'm curious as to why he didn't do anything for 5th or Visions. Maybe
he was a little too ... suggestive?
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> in your real life, treat it like it's special
> in your real life, try to be more kind
> in your real life, think of those that love you
> in this real life, try to be less blind
> words by vernon reid
> ----------------------------------------------
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T. S. Walker
ste...@together.net wrote:
> Finally, someone else who mentions Robert Bliss as one of the best
> artists. I'm the most bitter about him not coming back for the new
> sets, as far as I can tell. I think he had the best combination of
> technical ability with creativity out of just about anyone in the new
> sets. How can anyone not like Skulking Ghost or Ekundu Cyclops?
>
> I'm curious as to why he didn't do anything for 5th or Visions. Maybe
> he was a little too ... suggestive?
Maybe he's working on a XXXenophile expansion? There's nothing
that game needs more than surreal phallic symbols!
Cheers,
Tim(me)
Pooh R You
I agree that decomposition is not that good at all but I find
Musician fine and moody.
: > My favorite artwork is done by Quinton Hoover, the art I spend the
most
: > time observing is Drew Tucker's. I never could do watercolors.
For those keeping a scorecard, Quinton admits to trying to do a Tucker
with his Mistfolk (IA). Didn't work out as well, but he sees the genius
in Drew. (Quinton has his own genius as well)
Peter
Senor Pepe
durnik wrote:
>
> In article <337C22...@mech.port.ac.uk>, <tec9...@mech.port.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >Drew Tucker DOES suck, and not to toot my own horn, but I CAN draw
> >> >better than him (and I'm not that good)!
> >
> >Well that's a new one....
> >You're the first guy I've ever heard that doesn't like RKF drawrings!!
> >Have you seen Pillage??, Jasmine Boreal??, Boomerang???, Desertion??
>
> To me, the problem with RKF is that they used the same art of his
> for Desertion, Boomerang, Dissipate, both Arcane Denials, and Essence
> Flare. (Come on... look at 'em... you KNOW it's just a touch-up every
> time! <g>)
>
> He's good, but his best work is that which is most off kilter for
> him, such as the Thrull he did and Earthquake.
>
> - Mike Bahr - dur...@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
(Although like my friend Chad, I am a bit partial to Néné Thomas.)
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