[LSJ] Psyche!
Emmit Svenson
eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat
is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
Relevant card text:
Psyche! [Jyhad, V:TES, FN, CE]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
[cel] Press.
[CEL] Only usable at the end of a combat when both combatants are
still ready. Enter combat with the opposing minion. This is a new
combat.
John P.
"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:75bdf7ed.02111...@posting.google.com...
> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat
> is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
Taste of Vitae?
Cardtype: Combat
Only usable at the end of a round of combat. Not usable by a vampire
going into torpor. This vampire gains an amount of blood equal to the
amount lost by the opposing vampire to damage during this round of
combat. A vampire can play only 1 Taste of Vitae each round.
Taste of Vitae is played at the end of a round of combat, not the end of
combat (though if there are no presses I guess it is technically the
end of combat). Psyche is played after combat. So Taste of Vitae can
be played, followed by Psyche, without affecting the Taste in any way.
Other "as combat is ending cards" ? None use that phrase exactly, perhaps you
mean "after combat". Need more info
Psyche will halt effects such as Rostrecht go to torpor effect, Form of Mist and other
continue action effects, and effects like Hidden lurker and fast reactions.
-JTP
LSJ
>
> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as combat
> is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
No.
Psyche! superior is played after combat.
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reyda
> Emmit Svenson wrote:
>>
>> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
>> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as
>> combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
>
> No.
> Psyche! superior is played after combat.
Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ?
After presses ? Before presses ?
LSJ
At the end of a round.
After presses.
Flux
> reyda wrote:
>
>>LSJ wrote:
>>
>>>Emmit Svenson wrote:
>>>
>>>>By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
>>>>eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as
>>>>combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
>>>
>>>No.
>>>Psyche! superior is played after combat.
>>
>>Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ?
>>After presses ? Before presses ?
>
>
> At the end of a round.
> After presses.
...if combat ends at the normal phase (after presses).
However, Taste can be played whenever combat ends, and that can happen
before presses. For example, if one of the minions goes to torpor during
strike resolution, if a S:CE is played, or from a superior Anesthetic Touch.
Flux
reyda
> reyda wrote:
>>
>> LSJ wrote:
>>> Emmit Svenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
>>>> eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as
>>>> combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
>>>
>>> No.
>>> Psyche! superior is played after combat.
>>
>> Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of
>> Vitae ? After presses ? Before presses ?
>
> At the end of a round.
> After presses.
So if you play ToV you automatically decline your opportunity to use a press
you gained from an earlier card ?
Flux
No. You can only play a Taste of Vitae after the press step (if combat
has not ended before that). That means you must have already declared if
you are using any presses you gained earlier, and given your opponent
the oportunity to use his own presses.
You can not skip the press step.
Flux
Micah
... Does this mean that if you send a vampire to torpor, immediatly
ending combat, then you cannot play a ToV?... If true that really
undermines the value of the card and also that my playgroup has been
playing it wrong for a long time.
Flux
See my other reply to the original post (and note that above I wrote 'if
combat has not ended before that').
You can play Taste whenever combat ends. That will usually happen after
presses, but if combat ends (by whatever reason) the round ends, and
therefore there's an opportunity to play 'end of round' effects
(including Taste)
Flux
Markus Schlein
LSJ schrieb:
> reyda wrote:
>
>>LSJ wrote:
>>
>>>Emmit Svenson wrote:
>>>
>>>>By playing Psyche at superior, can the acting minion in a combat
>>>>eliminate the opposing minion's window to play other "play as
>>>>combat is ending" cards, such as Taste of Vitae?
>>>
>>>No.
>>>Psyche! superior is played after combat.
>>
>>Excuse me but what exactly is the timing for playing Taste Of Vitae ?
>>After presses ? Before presses ?
>
>
> At the end of a round.
> After presses.
This means, that I can play Tast of Vitae after superior Telepathic
Tracking. Correct?
LSJ
Before or after - they have the same timing window.