Illusions states that titles don't contest... But what if you wanna use
the votes? IE you amaranth with an illusions... Can you use the votes
to burn the illusions rather then have him POOF? Especially if it's a
title you already have? Somebody posted an idea with arika (which I
think I did improve on) If arika sends somebody to torpor and lived...
And you play Amaranth, can you use the illusion's votes... PLUS the
real arika's votes to vote her burnt in the blood hunt?!?
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>Illusions states that titles don't contest... But what if you wanna use
>the votes?
You can't vote during combat.
>IE you amaranth with an illusions... Can you use the votes
>to burn the illusions rather then have him POOF?
No.
As soon as the amaranth resolves, the combat ends and the vampire is
removed. There is no blood hunt opportunity on illusionary vampires.
>If arika sends somebody to torpor and lived...
>And you play Amaranth, can you use the illusion's votes... PLUS the
>real arika's votes to vote her burnt in the blood hunt?!?
No.
Carpe noctem.
Lasombra
The Illusion dissapears before the Blood Hunt vote can be called (you
cant call a vote on a Ghost, or a vampire that doesnt exist for that
matter)... so there is no Blood Hunt.
-- Brian Skelly
Local Player, Adelaide V:EKN
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The blood hunt referendum in the case of Amaranth is handled in combat
(but separate from the combat). Just like the referendum for a blood
hunt from a diablerie action is handled in the action (but separate
from the action).
[LSJ 09-AUG-2001]
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You can use them, even if the title duplicates a contestable one that one
of your other vampires holds. The titles don't contest, as you note.
You can cast them to burn the diablerist or to save him, your choice.
If he burns in the blood hunt, then he doesn't get removed from the game
at the end of combat.
Is there room to play Ritual of the Bitter Rose before the
Blood Hunt is dealt with?
Cheers, Alf
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Yes. Ritual of the Bitter Rose is played prior to the blood hunt.
[LSJ 29-AUG-2002]
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