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Tetragrammaton

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Jun 29, 2008, 11:38:13 AM6/29/08
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Hello, some clarifications needed with new and old cards:

#1 - Nephandus vs Catatonic Fear

Does Nephandus damage reduction works against
after-combat catatonic fear damage ?


#2 -Steely Tenacity vs Direct intervention

If Steely Tenacity is get D'Ied (or similar effect, say Louhi's special),
is the ST "replace"effect (from the ash heap) still possible , or DI cancels
the "When you would replace this card, you may take this card from your ash
heap instead." as well ?


#3 - Piper and ally performing action in the same turn

If an anarch recruits via Piper, can that ally act
in the same turn ?


thanks in advance

Emiliano, NC Italy

The Lasombra

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Jun 29, 2008, 5:20:38 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:38:13 +0200, "Tetragrammaton" wrote:

>#1 - Nephandus vs Catatonic Fear
>Does Nephandus damage reduction works against
>after-combat catatonic fear damage ?

No.

Pertinent card text on Nephandus: "during combat"

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=cardlist


>#2 -Steely Tenacity vs Direct intervention
>If Steely Tenacity is get D'Ied (or similar effect, say Louhi's special),
>is the ST "replace"effect (from the ash heap) still possible , or DI cancels
>the "When you would replace this card, you may take this card from your ash
>heap instead." as well ?

The card is completely cancelled and none of its card text can be
used.


>#3 - Piper and ally performing action in the same turn
>If an anarch recruits via Piper, can that ally act
>in the same turn ?

No.

Any "recruit" effect follows the standard rules, see Section 6.1.5.

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/

The ally is placed in your uncontrolled region, even though it is
controlled, to indicate that it cannot act this turn (and the cost, if
any, is paid).

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=cardlist

Piper [TR:R]
Cardtype: Master
Master. Requires a ready anarch.
A ready untapped anarch you control employs a retainer or recruits an
ally from your hand (requirements and cost apply as normal). This is
not an action and cannot be blocked. Tap that anarch.
Artist: Andrew Trabbold


LSJ

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Jun 29, 2008, 9:44:43 PM6/29/08
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The Lasombra wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:38:13 +0200, "Tetragrammaton" wrote:
>
>> #1 - Nephandus vs Catatonic Fear
>> Does Nephandus damage reduction works against
>> after-combat catatonic fear damage ?
>
> No.
>
> Pertinent card text on Nephandus: "during combat"
>
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=cardlist

Yes. Pertinent card text: "Each strike". "During combat" modifies strike, not
damage, and the strike was indeed made in combat (as all strikes are).

>> #2 -Steely Tenacity vs Direct intervention
>> If Steely Tenacity is get D'Ied (or similar effect, say Louhi's special),
>> is the ST "replace"effect (from the ash heap) still possible , or DI cancels
>> the "When you would replace this card, you may take this card from your ash
>> heap instead." as well ?
>
> The card is completely cancelled and none of its card text can be
> used.

Correct. Both the delayed replacement and the redirection of the replacement
supply source are canceled.

>> #3 - Piper and ally performing action in the same turn
>> If an anarch recruits via Piper, can that ally act
>> in the same turn ?
>
> No.
>
> Any "recruit" effect follows the standard rules, see Section 6.1.5.

Correct.

Tetragrammaton

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Jun 30, 2008, 4:37:14 AM6/30/08
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Thanks for the answers.

About the last one (#3) on piper, by section 6.1.5 however, text indicates
that

"If the *action* is successful, the ally is placed in your uncontrolled

region, even though it is controlled, to indicate that it cannot act this
turn"

that seems to link the *action* thing (and not the "recruit") to the "put in
your uncontrolled region" thing
But piper specifies that isn't an *action* - maybe card text needs to be
clearer


Emiliano


suolir...@gmail.com

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Jun 30, 2008, 8:20:54 AM6/30/08
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That part of the rule is the only part that mentions placing the ally
anywhere at all. If "recruit" isn't linked to "put in your
uncontrolled" then Piper will recruit your ally but you won't actually
get to put it in play.

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