Spying Mission/Night Moves

[John P.]

Alright, I'm aware that you can play spying mission
after a night moves.

Can you burn the spying mission after a subsequent
night moves to get +2 bleed and would that bleed be reduced
dy the night moves?

-JTP

[Miller Delmardigan]

"John P." <verg...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Night Moves
[obf] (D) Bleed your predator or prey at +3 stealth. If more than 1 pool is
bled with this action, ignore the excess. [OBF] (D) As above, but bleed at
+6 stealth.

So, yes, by card text

Miller Delmardigan
http://sabbatinfrance.free.fr/en

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[Rewy]

you can still burn the Spying missions, but Nightmoves specifically says "If
more than 1 pool is bled with this action, ignore the excess" therefore
Spying missions is useless in this case

-Rewy

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[John P.]

"Miller Delmardigan" <al...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message news:3dc3d2d2$0$261$7a62...@news.club-internet.fr...

> So, yes, by card text
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> Miller Delmardigan
> http://sabbatinfrance.free.fr/en

I'll admit that this is what I thought at first.
But then I read the following Archon Investigation/Spying mission ruling.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=34B0DEA3.41C6%40wizards.com

from it:
"Spying Mission is only burned after all action modifiers/reactions
are played (**when the action finally resolves**)"

(**) my emphasis

Now what I got out of this was that Spying mission's modifier occured
when the action is resolved, after the Night Moves has resolved. If the
action has resolved, then night moves cannot reduce the bleed.

So I'm confused. If someone could point out the flaw in my
reasoning I would appreciate it.

-JTP

[reyda]

John P. wrote:

|| Now what I got out of this was that Spying mission's modifier
|| occured when the action is resolved, after the Night Moves has
|| resolved. If the action has resolved, then night moves cannot
|| reduce the bleed.

The night move can still reduce the bleed =)

[LSJ]

Correct. Night Moves doesn't reduce the bleed. It limits the amount of pool
that will be burned on a successful bleed (of any amount).

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[Jon Stahler]

"John P." <verg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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As others have answered, yes. To be exact, though, you HAVE to burn the
spying mission the next time that minion successfully bleeds. Doesn't
matter how they do it (by declaration of bleed action or Night Moves or any
other type of bleed action), but the spying mission MUST be burned.

Spying Mission
[obf] This acting vampire gets +1 stealth. [OBF] Only usable -when a bleed
is successful-. Instead of removing pool from the Methuselah you're
bleeding, put this card on the acting vampire. *The next time this vampire
successfully bleeds the same Methuselah, burn this card for +2 bleed.

*Relevant text

BTW, this is one drawback to using Spying Mission as a solution to bleed
bounce (altough it is a mainstay for my stealth bleed decks that use OBF
now). If the same minion is deflected again, you bleed your grand prey for
a LOT more than you would have in the original action.