LSJ: The Oath on someone else's Taste of Vitae?
OldFan
cut answer.
Which may be because it's a dumb question, but here goes anyways:
"Dear LSJ,
Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both)
of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath
as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires,
neither of which I control?
Sincerely, gamer on crack in Ithaca, NY"
My thinking being - the text on the Oath doesn't specify that Taste of
Vitae must be played against one of your vampires (unlike the blood
theft, which expressly DOES specify that).
As a plain red/combat card, The Oath wouldn't have to do so - you only
play red cards during your own vampires' combats (with a few
exceptions that say so in their text box).
But being playable as a reaction means that lack of text (along with
the "or" that separates the taste of vitae from "steals blood from
this vampire") has the "play as written/PaW" side of my gamer brain
wondering. But that could be the crack talking....
The Oath
combat
reaction
Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood
from this vampire. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire
may put another oath counter on that vampire as a (D) action. A
vampire with 2 oath counters from this vampire cannot block or enter
combat with this vampire. A vampire can play only one Oath each round.
The Lasombra
>So - I did Google-fu on the web site and really didn't find a clear
>cut answer.
Card text is pretty clear from here.
Blood must be tasted or stolen from the vampire playing the card.
> Meth A and Meth B both have vampires in combat. One (or both)
>of the vampires play Taste of Vitae. Can I, as Meth C, play The Oath
>as a reaction card to put an oath counter on one of those 2 vampires,
>neither of which I control?
No.
Card text of first sentence of the card.
>The Oath
>combat
>reaction
>Play when a vampire gains blood from a Taste of Vitae or steals blood
>from THIS VAMPIRE. Put an oath counter on that vampire. This vampire
Haze
ah, I see what you're trying to do here. I think you might be right,
they're two different conditions, and taste of vitae isn't played
"from" a vampire. however, even if that's true...
rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat
cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like
"power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during
combat. too bad.
LSJ
> rulebook states you can not play any minion cards other than combat
> cards during a combat, unless card text says otherwise. so just like
> "power of all" you can never play The Oath as a reaction during
> combat. too bad.
Correct.
Taste, being playable only in combat, means that The Oath would be
played in combat (and could thus only be played by a combatant).
Stealing blood may occur in combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
a combat card) or outside of combat (allowing The Oath to be played as
a reaction).
OldFan
Thanks for the answers gentlemen - that's all I needed to know!
(picks up pile of The Oath, and puts them back in the box of "these
are useless cards")
*whistling* :