Imbued vs Illusions of the Kindred

[floppyzedolfin]

I just want to be sure I've understood what's happening in the Spell
of Life thread.
For that reason, here comes what was a dumb question (because it was
not asked), and is actually a stupid question.

My prey controls a Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande. Suddenly, it happens
that one of my vampires enters combat. I play an Illusions of the
Kindred, and reveal Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande.

Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande is *not* a vampire, so it should contest
my prey's Inez (since nothing is specified about contesting Imbueds on
Illusions of the Kindred). My Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande and my
prey's Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande do contest, and if my prey yields,
I can keep my Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande as long as I want.

Second ex-dumb question : When my Inez "Nurse216" Villagrande enters
play due to my Illusions, does it win a Conviction? Does its special
ability apply ? (cf. Sonja Blue + contest)
When it comes back from the contest, can it gain 1 power, due to its
special ability ?

[Wookie813]

Found on this NG [search: Illusions Imbued]. Note point number three.

The following effects are not imbued-compatible:

* Chain of Command (cannot put imbued into play)
* Clotho's Gift at [tem] (cannot target imbued in uncontrolled
region)
* Illusions of the Kindred (if the bottom card is an imbued, no
new
combat begins and the imbued is removed from play.)
* Might of the Camarilla (won't force a Methuselah to burn an
uncontrolled imbued).
* Recruitment (search as indicated: vampire).

[LSJ]

Wookie813 wrote:
> Found on this NG [search: Illusions Imbued]. Note point number three.
>
> The following effects are not imbued-compatible:
>
> * Chain of Command (cannot put imbued into play)
> * Clotho's Gift at [tem] (cannot target imbued in uncontrolled
> region)
> * Illusions of the Kindred (if the bottom card is an imbued, no
> new
> combat begins and the imbued is removed from play.)
> * Might of the Camarilla (won't force a Methuselah to burn an
> uncontrolled imbued).
> * Recruitment (search as indicated: vampire).

Correct.

That list is also here:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_NightsOfReckoning

(So you don't have to search the NG)

[floppyzedolfin]

Actually, as I read the topic, it sounds that there is no combat
because the Imbued is incapacited. Which means it comes in play,
before being removed.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_frm/thread/b5a2ca7cdc90dca7/95be478917d3fe02?hl=fr&lnk=gst&q=illusions+imbued+author%3Alsj&rnum=1#95be478917d3fe02
discribes how things happen. Imbued is brought to play, not gaining
blood, sent to incapacited, and only then, burnt.

Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I still don't get it: why would the
imbued not contest ? Isn't it burnt from play, hence has been put in
play, and could've trigger any contest ?

[LSJ]

Yeah, that just means I didn't correctly update the official card text for IotK.
Just as the final reference to vampire was changed to "crypt card" (for removing
it from the game), the reference to vampire in the does not contest area should
have been changed as well.

I'll fix that.