(LSJ) Set's Call questions
floppyzedolfin
* It seems that if a vampire with superior Serpentis blocks a recruit
action and plays Set's Call, the stolen ally is put in the ready
reagion (and could therefore attempt to block an action before the end
of the turn). Is this correct ?
- Suppose a vampire tries to recruit a Cry Wolf and gets blocked by a
vampire with Serpentis superior.
* Can the blocking vampire play Set's Call ?
* Is the acting vampire in torpor at the end of the action?
- I'm not really sure about Set's Call timing window.
In this topic http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6da1397de23aecc0
you say Set's Call can only be played before a Slave minion decides to
enter combat instead of the acting minion.
In this post http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/3d6826146c7201a2
you explain that the acting Methuselah gets the impulse to do things
as he declares the action blocked - including activating the Slave
rule.
I don't see how Set's Call can squeeze in there. Does it have its own
window?
Thanks
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Set's Call
Cardtype: Reaction
Discipline: Serpentis
[ser] Only usable when this vampire successfully blocks an employ
retainer action (play before combat). The action is successful (and
the cost is paid), but this reacting vampire takes control of the
retainer. Combat does not occur.
[SER] As above, but usable when a recruit ally action is blocked. You
take control of the ally.
Cry Wolf
Cardtype: Ally
Unique werewolf with 3 life. 2 strength, 0 bleed. Requires a ready
anarch.
If the action to recruit this ally is blocked, the acting anarch goes
to torpor. This werewolf must enter combat with any minion controlled
by another Methuselah as a (D) action. He gets one optional press each
combat. This werewolf does not untap as normal during your untap
phase. If he is tapped during your untap phase, burn him.
LSJ
> * It seems that if a vampire with superior Serpentis blocks a recruit
> action and plays Set's Call, the stolen ally is put in the ready
> reagion (and could therefore attempt to block an action before the end
> of the turn). Is this correct ?
No. The action is successful (card text). The ally is recruited. Which means he
is in the uncontrolled region.
> - Suppose a vampire tries to recruit a Cry Wolf and gets blocked by a
> vampire with Serpentis superior.
> * Can the blocking vampire play Set's Call ?
Yes. "usable when a recruit ally action is blocked"
> * Is the acting vampire in torpor at the end of the action?
Yes. "If the action to recruit this ally is blocked"
> - I'm not really sure about Set's Call timing window.
> In this topic http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6da1397de23aecc0
> you say Set's Call can only be played before a Slave minion decides to
> enter combat instead of the acting minion.
No. I say after. Acting minion goes first.
(That's 3 and 4 of the listed steps in that article)
I also note that the Set's Call will be played before that slave-combat is
begun, however. It has the same timing window.
And then, to be perfectly clear (TBPC), I say:
The block combat does not occur either way, due to card text on Set's Call and
rules text for Slaves.
The Slave combat will occur as normal, if the Tremere's Meth chose to use the
Slave mechanic.
> In this post http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/3d6826146c7201a2
> you explain that the acting Methuselah gets the impulse to do things
> as he declares the action blocked - including activating the Slave
> rule.
Yes, as per the earlier thread as well.
> I don't see how Set's Call can squeeze in there. Does it have its own
> window?
No.