[LSJ] Echo of Harmonies

[Denalex]

Hi,

The superior melpominee version of Echo of Harmonies from LoB doesn't
say the vampire has to burn the card in order to call the referendum. I
assume he still has to, but to me, the card doesn't explicitly says so.
So what's the deal?

Alexander

[Daneel]

On 18 Nov 2005 05:38:05 -0800, Denalex <alexander....@gmail.com>
wrote:

The deal is that the new interpretation of Echo is that you actually play
the card from the Echo in the normal fashion. The Legacies page has this
info:

Echo of Harmonies: The Political Action card is played as if from hand.
(Giving a vote in the referendum, able to be canceled as played, and
so on.)

So it follows the standard procedure - e.g. after the referendum is is
placed in the ash heap for most Political Actions.

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Bye,

Daneel

[LSJ]

Correct.

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[Charles Lechasseur]

In article <MRuff.1826$wf....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
LSJ <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote:

> Daneel wrote:
> > The deal is that the new interpretation of Echo is that you actually play
> > the card from the Echo in the normal fashion. The Legacies page has this
> > info:
> >
> > Echo of Harmonies: The Political Action card is played as if from hand.
> > (Giving a vote in the referendum, able to be canceled as played, and
> > so on.)
> >
> > So it follows the standard procedure - e.g. after the referendum is is
> > placed in the ash heap for most Political Actions.
>
> Correct.

<nitpicking>
You previously ruled that equipping with Filchware's Pawn Shop was not
"playing" the card. This lead to a ruling that said Flaming Candle could
be re-equipped via the Pawn Shop:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/b909a8e3
ece85f24?dmode=source

But almost immediately, a parallel was drawn with Echo of Harmonies
which, at the time, used the term "burn" instead of "play". This lead to
a reversal of the Filchware's/Candle ruling:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/f2db39fb
160073a0?dmode=source

Now that Echo has changed and is actually playing the card, the parallel
no longer works. Is it time to revisit the Candle ruling and allow the
Candle to be played again with Filchware's Pawn Shop, or should we
always interpret text like Filchware's as needing to meet the
requirements, even if it's not "played" per card text?
</nitpicking>

[LSJ]

Charles Lechasseur wrote:
> Now that Echo has changed and is actually playing the card, the parallel
> no longer works. Is it time to revisit the Candle ruling and allow the
> Candle to be played again with Filchware's Pawn Shop, or should we
> always interpret text like Filchware's as needing to meet the
> requirements, even if it's not "played" per card text?

Filchware uses "equip", which means that the requirements need be met,
a fact it re-iterates explicitly in parentheses.