Q- LSJ. Vessel vs Secure Haven
SteveHarris
controlled by Meth B, and Vampire 1 has a Secure Haven, does Meth A
pay 1 more pool for Vessel?
Name: Vessel
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: trifle.
Put this card on a vampire, and you may burn a Blood Doll in play (if
any). During this vampire's controller's untap phase, he or she may
move 1 blood from this vampire to his or her pool or from his or her
pool to this vampire.
Name: Secure Haven
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: unique location. Haven.
Put this card on a minion you control. This minion cannot be -{the
target of other Methuselahs' actions}-. Any Methuselah burns an
additional pool when playing master cards on (or that target) this
minion. Burn this card if this minion enters torpor. A minion may have
only one haven.
Dasein
No I don't think so. Vessel targets the Blood Doll card, not the
minion.
Same with say Tier of Souls. If I have a Tier of Souls on my guy, and
you try to burn it, I can't play Detect Authority at ani, nor would I
be able to get +1 intercept from Communal Haven: Temple. Targeting
cards placed on a minion != targeting the minion itself.
At least I'm pretty sure.
LSJ
> On Aug 11, 11:32 pm, SteveHarris <steveharris1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If Meth A plays a Vessel and decides to burn a blood doll on Vampire 1
>> controlled by Meth B, and Vampire 1 has a Secure Haven, does Meth A
>> pay 1 more pool for Vessel?
>>
> minion.
Correct. Similarly, a minion can use Arson to burn the Secure Haven.
> Same with say Tier of Souls. If I have a Tier of Souls on my guy, and
> you try to burn it, I can't play Detect Authority at ani, nor would I
> be able to get +1 intercept from Communal Haven: Temple. Targeting
> cards placed on a minion != targeting the minion itself.
> At least I'm pretty sure.
Correct.
SteveHarris
> Dasein wrote:
> > On Aug 11, 11:32 pm, SteveHarris <steveharris1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If Meth A plays a Vessel and decides to burn a blood doll on Vampire 1
> >> controlled by Meth B, and Vampire 1 has a Secure Haven, does Meth A
> >> pay 1 more pool for Vessel?
>
> > No I don't think so. Vessel targets the Blood Doll card, not the
> > minion.
>
> Correct. Similarly, a minion can use Arson to burn the Secure Haven.
Thanks. What about a card like Mesmerize? Does that target the
minion or the equipment?
Mesmerize
+1 stealth action. [dom] (D) Steal equipment from an ally. [DOM] (D)
Steal equipment from a younger vampire.
LSJ
> Thanks. What about a card like Mesmerize? Does that target the
> minion or the equipment?
>
> Mesmerize
> +1 stealth action. [dom] (D) Steal equipment from an ally. [DOM] (D)
> Steal equipment from a younger vampire.
It targets equipment.