Blood Weakens Empty Hand Multiple Times

Jeff Kuta

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Oct 12, 2008, 10:52:22 PM10/12/08

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Name: Blood Weakens
[Gehenna:R]
Cardtype: Event
Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
Cards that (a minion plays that) require any Disciplines to play are
not replaced until the end of the current action or until any
Methuselah's hand is empty (whichever comes first). Any vampire who
commits diablerie is immune to this effect until the next Gehenna card
is played.
Artist: Jeff Holt

Blood Weakens is in play. Two vampires, R and S neither who have
diablerized since BW was played, enter combat. Vampire R has 4 Raptors
at ANI. Meth R discards down to three hand size. Vampires R and S each
play two cards requiring disciplines. Meth R has 1 card in hand and
Meth S has 5 cards in hand. Vampire R plays another card requiring
disciplines.

Who draws up to maximum hand size? Both Meth R and S or just Meth R?

Jeff

Jeff Kuta

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Oct 12, 2008, 10:54:26 PM10/12/08

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Whoops, forgot my follow on question.

The additional discipline-requiring card Vampire R played was a press
to continue combat. In round 2 of combat, Vampire R plays additional
cards requiring disciplines. Are those replaced as normal, or must
Meth R's hand be empty before redrawing those. Thanks.

Jeff

RocketEddy

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Oct 13, 2008, 3:43:39 AM10/13/08

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The answer lies in your own post: "until *any* Methuselah's hand is
empty". Thus both meths can redraw to their current hand size (7 and 3
respectively) in your example.

LSJ

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Oct 13, 2008, 8:28:43 AM10/13/08

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Jeff Kuta wrote:
> On Oct 12, 7:52 pm, Jeff Kuta <jeff.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Name: Blood Weakens
>> [Gehenna:R]
>> Cardtype: Event
>> Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
>> Cards that (a minion plays that) require any Disciplines to play are
>> not replaced until the end of the current action or until any
>> Methuselah's hand is empty (whichever comes first). Any vampire who
>> commits diablerie is immune to this effect until the next Gehenna card
>> is played.
>> Artist: Jeff Holt
>>
>> Blood Weakens is in play. Two vampires, R and S neither who have
>> diablerized since BW was played, enter combat. Vampire R has 4 Raptors
>> at ANI. Meth R discards down to three hand size. Vampires R and S each
>> play two cards requiring disciplines. Meth R has 1 card in hand and
>> Meth S has 5 cards in hand. Vampire R plays another card requiring
>> disciplines.
>>
>> Who draws up to maximum hand size? Both Meth R and S or just Meth R?

Both.

> Whoops, forgot my follow on question.
>
> The additional discipline-requiring card Vampire R played was a press
> to continue combat. In round 2 of combat, Vampire R plays additional
> cards requiring disciplines. Are those replaced as normal, or must
> Meth R's hand be empty before redrawing those. Thanks.

They are not replaced until someone's hand (R's or otherwise) is empty.

Salem

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Oct 13, 2008, 6:04:27 PM10/13/08

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LSJ wrote:
> Jeff Kuta wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 7:52 pm, Jeff Kuta <jeff.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Name: Blood Weakens
>>> [Gehenna:R]
>>> Cardtype: Event
>>> Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
>>> Cards that (a minion plays that) require any Disciplines to play are
>>> not replaced until the end of the current action or until any
>>> Methuselah's hand is empty (whichever comes first). Any vampire who
>>> commits diablerie is immune to this effect until the next Gehenna card
>>> is played.
>>> Artist: Jeff Holt
>>>
>>> Blood Weakens is in play. Two vampires, R and S neither who have
>>> diablerized since BW was played, enter combat. Vampire R has 4 Raptors
>>> at ANI. Meth R discards down to three hand size. Vampires R and S each
>>> play two cards requiring disciplines. Meth R has 1 card in hand and
>>> Meth S has 5 cards in hand. Vampire R plays another card requiring
>>> disciplines.
>>>
>>> Who draws up to maximum hand size? Both Meth R and S or just Meth R?
>
> Both.

i think the original poster mixed up who's got the raptors and who's
hand size is reduced (R has raptors...R discards down to 3 cards...?)

Assuming R has the Raptors, note that while R has the 4 Raptors and is
in combat with S, S's 'maximum hand size' (for what they should draw up
to) is 3.

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