[LSJ] rules question ghoul retainer
pallando
vampire strikes hands, the Ghoul Retainer uses the weapon. The opposing
vampire destroys the weapon with first strike. Will the Ghoul retainer now
do his default 1 damage or none?
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Pepijn
> The following situation a vampire has a Ghoul Retainer and a Weapon. The
> vampire strikes hands, the Ghoul Retainer uses the weapon. The opposing
> vampire destroys the weapon with first strike. Will the Ghoul retainer now
> do his default 1 damage or none?
None. The controller declared a strike, which get's cancled by the
destroy weapon with first strike, so no strike then.
Ghoul retainer follows same rulings as a vampire would.
LSJ
> The following situation a vampire has a Ghoul Retainer and a Weapon. The
> vampire strikes hands, the Ghoul Retainer uses the weapon. The opposing
> vampire destroys the weapon with first strike. Will the Ghoul retainer now
> do his default 1 damage or none?
The Retainer cannot use the weapon at strike declaration.
Strike declaration (aka "Choose Strikes"):
A: I strike hands (for 1).
B: I strike steal/destroy weapon at first strike.
Strike resolution:
First Strike:
Resolve the incoming steal/destroy weapon strike against A.
Other strike resolution:
Hands for 1 on B and Ghoul Retainer's effect (for 1 unless A has another
weapon).
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Colin McGuigan
> None. The controller declared a strike, which get's cancled by the
> destroy weapon with first strike, so no strike then.
> Ghoul retainer follows same rulings as a vampire would.
Incorrect. The Ghoul Retainer does not technically declare it's effect
until strike resolution (by card text). So, the weapon gets destroyed
in the first strike resolution, and the Ghoul Retainer is free to hands
for 1.
--Colin McGuigan