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Tetragrammaton

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Nov 2, 2007, 12:41:00 PM11/2/07
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Hello,
need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership::

scenario #1

Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity
(say, 5)
1- all of them gain 2 pool
or
2 - none of them gain pools

scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity,
C controls just one of 4 capacity.

1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool
or
2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't
control any of the "oldest
ready assamite")

thanks in advance

Emiliano


crispyfloss

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Nov 2, 2007, 1:05:39 PM11/2/07
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On Nov 2, 9:41 am, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership::

Haqim's Law: Leadership [LotN:C/PA]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Assamite
+1 stealth action.
Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2
pool.
Artist: Eric Lofgren

> scenario #1
>
> Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity
> (say, 5)
> 1- all of them gain 2 pool
> or
> 2 - none of them gain pools

1. The card says "Each...any of the" rather than "The...the", so it
clearly contemplates more than one Methuselah being able to gain pool.

> scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity,
> C controls just one of 4 capacity.
>
> 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool
> or
> 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't
> control any of the "oldest
> ready assamite")

2. The only way I see 1 making any sense at all is if you think to
yourself "C has an Assamite of capacity 4, and that is his oldest
Assamite, so he gets 2 pool." But then the card would effectively
mean "Any Methuselah who controls a ready Assamite gains 2 pool," and
then you'd have to wonder why they didn't write that. And the best
answer is that they didn't want the card to do that.

Emiliano Imeroni

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Nov 2, 2007, 1:06:33 PM11/2/07
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On Nov 2, 5:41 pm, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership::

IANLSJ, but the answers are obvious from card text.
---
Haqim's Law: Leadership
Type: Action
Requires: Assamite
+1 stealth action.
Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2
pool.
---

> scenario #1
>
> Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity
> (say, 5)
> 1- all of them gain 2 pool
> or
> 2 - none of them gain pools

1. All of them gain 2 pool (provided nobody else controls
an older Assamite)

> scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity,
> C controls just one of 4 capacity.
>
> 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool
> or
> 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't
> control any of the "oldest
> ready assamite")

2. A and B gain 2 pool each, and C gains nothing
(provided nobody else controls an older Assamite).

Ciao,
the other Emiliano ;-)

LSJ

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Nov 2, 2007, 2:09:44 PM11/2/07
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crispyfloss wrote:
> On Nov 2, 9:41 am, "Tetragrammaton" <nos...@none.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> need answer on this, in front of a succesful haqim's law leadership::
>
> Haqim's Law: Leadership [LotN:C/PA]
> Cardtype: Action
> Clan: Assamite
> +1 stealth action.
> Each Methuselah who controls any of the oldest ready Assamites gains 2
> pool.
> Artist: Eric Lofgren
>
>> scenario #1
>>
>> Meth A , B , C - all controls one assamite, of same capacity
>> (say, 5)
>> 1- all of them gain 2 pool
>> or
>> 2 - none of them gain pools
>
> 1. The card says "Each...any of the" rather than "The...the", so it
> clearly contemplates more than one Methuselah being able to gain pool.

Correct.

>> scenario #2 - meth A, B control just one assamite each of 5 capacity,
>> C controls just one of 4 capacity.
>>
>> 1 - all of the three meths gain 2 pool
>> or
>> 2 - just meth A and B gain 2 pool (C gains nothing , since he doesn't
>> control any of the "oldest
>> ready assamite")
>
> 2. The only way I see 1 making any sense at all is if you think to
> yourself "C has an Assamite of capacity 4, and that is his oldest
> Assamite, so he gets 2 pool." But then the card would effectively
> mean "Any Methuselah who controls a ready Assamite gains 2 pool," and
> then you'd have to wonder why they didn't write that. And the best
> answer is that they didn't want the card to do that.

Correct.

Who are the oldest ready Assamites? A1 and A2 (at 5 capacity each).
Is A3 (at 4 capacity) one of the oldest? No.

So Meth A controls one of the oldest. She gains 2 pool.
Meth B also.
Meth C does not control any of the oldest, so she gains nothing.

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