Aching Beauty/ Mask of 1000 Faces questions
Stone
A bleeds.
1/ Can B Mask the action (Mask of 1000 Faces) before the block, since AB
isn't an "applied" effect like the effect of Backways would be ?
2/ Can B Mask the action after the block and the pool loss induced by the
Aching Beauty? Is the pool loss considered an applied effect?
thanks,
Stone
LSJ
> Vampire A has Aching Beauty. Vampire B has no Aching Beauty.
>
> A bleeds.
>
> 1/ Can B Mask the action (Mask of 1000 Faces) before the block, since AB
> isn't an "applied" effect like the effect of Backways would be ?
Yes.
> 2/ Can B Mask the action after the block and the pool loss induced by the
> Aching Beauty? Is the pool loss considered an applied effect?
B cannot mask once the pool loss effect is applied.
Similarly, once a vampire attempts to block an Archon, the Archon's effect
is activated (the vampire pays 1 blood to attempt to block), so the action
cannot be masked away from that archon.
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Tom,Mad&Co
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> Stone wrote:
> > Vampire A has Aching Beauty. Vampire B has no Aching Beauty.
> >
> > A bleeds.
> >
> > 1/ Can B Mask the action (Mask of 1000 Faces) before the block, since AB
> > isn't an "applied" effect like the effect of Backways would be ?
>
> Yes.
>
> > 2/ Can B Mask the action after the block and the pool loss induced by
the
> > Aching Beauty? Is the pool loss considered an applied effect?
>
> B cannot mask once the pool loss effect is applied.
Ooops, that modifies slightly my Handsome Devil deck. If then B also got an
Aching beauty, will blocking minion's controller pay an additional pool?
LSJ
> Ooops, that modifies slightly my Handsome Devil deck. If then B also got an
> Aching beauty, will blocking minion's controller pay an additional pool?
No. B still cannot Mask the action. B's Aching Beauty is not A's Aching Beauty.
Tom,Mad&Co
> Tom,Mad&Co wrote:
> > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> escribió en el mensaje
> > >B cannot mask once the pool loss effect is applied.
>
> > Ooops, that modifies slightly my Handsome Devil deck. If then B also got
an
> > Aching beauty, will blocking minion's controller pay an additional pool?
>
> No. B still cannot Mask the action. B's Aching Beauty is not A's Aching
Beauty.
>
Ok, then, sniff. A cute deck to the bin.
On the same topic, but slightly different
Toreador A dancing with a toreador grand ball (unblockable non-bleeding
actions)
Toreador B with obf
A takes an action. Asks prey and predator if they block, boviously, as they
can't they decline blocking
Can B now play MO1000F to carry on the action? (obviously, B fullfits all
requirements of the Action)
LSJ
> Toreador A dancing with a toreador grand ball (unblockable non-bleeding
> actions)
> Toreador B with obf
>
> A takes an action. Asks prey and predator if they block, boviously, as they
> can't they decline blocking
> Can B now play MO1000F to carry on the action? (obviously, B fullfits all
> requirements of the Action)
Yes.
Similarly, if Aisling bled a Methuselah whose only ready minion was Blythe,
Nik could mask the action after Blythe's controller declines to block.
Emmit Svenson
> Stone wrote:
> > Vampire A has Aching Beauty. Vampire B has no Aching Beauty.
> > Aching Beauty? Is the pool loss considered an applied effect?
>
> B cannot mask once the pool loss effect is applied.
>
> Similarly, once a vampire attempts to block an Archon, the Archon's effect
> is activated (the vampire pays 1 blood to attempt to block), so the action
> cannot be masked away from that archon.
Why the new ruling from the rules team on Mask of 1000 Faces?
LSJ
> Why the new ruling from the rules team on Mask of 1000 Faces?
Uniformity, consistency, logic, intuitiveness, and agreement with the backstory.
Curevei
>backstory.
You know, this could make a good sig.
Ahasuerus
> Tom,Mad&Co wrote:
> > Toreador A dancing with a toreador grand ball (unblockable non-bleeding
> > actions)
> > Toreador B with obf
> >
> > A takes an action. Asks prey and predator if they block, boviously, as
they
> > can't they decline blocking
> > Can B now play MO1000F to carry on the action? (obviously, B fullfits
all
> > requirements of the Action)
>
> Yes.
>
> Similarly, if Aisling bled a Methuselah whose only ready minion was
Blythe,
> Nik could mask the action after Blythe's controller declines to block.
>
do methusaleahs get another chance to block?
LSJ
>>>they decline blocking.
>>>Can B now play MO1000F to carry on the action?
> do methusaleahs get another chance to block?
No. The decision not to block is final.