New Crusades Q.
Anthony Barker
(Barcelona, Brussels, Rome) does it untap if the action is successful, or
only if the referendum is successful?
Literal interpretation of the phrasing indicates the former, but comparison
with the clan-linked Praxis Seizures suggests the latter (although a ruling
was required for the Praxis Seizures).
Also note the slight difference in wording in the last sentence of the
Praxis Seizures vs the Crusades, i.e., "Prince" compared to "vampire". (The
use of "Prince" would seem to imply a successful referendum is necessary;
the use of "vampire" is less clear.)
Cheers,
Anthony Barker.
"Titles: Blood capacity gained by gaining a title will be lost if the title
is lost." [TOM 19960210]
Name: Crusade: Barcelona
[BH]
Cardtype: Political Action
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any Sabbat vampire at +1 stealth.
Successful referendum means the acting vampire is declared Archbishop of
Barcelona. This could lead to a contested title. If this vampire is Tremere
antitribu, he or she untaps during your next discard phase.
Praxis Seizure: Barcelona [DS:U2]
Cardtype: Political Action
Capacity: [TREMERE ICON]
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any <Camarilla> vampire at +1
stealth.
Successful <referendum> means the acting vampire is declared Prince of
Barcelona. This could lead to a contested title. If the prince is Tremere,
his or her capacity increases by 1.
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Timlagor
> If a vampire of the appropriate clan plays one of the new Crusades
> (Barcelona, Brussels, Rome) does it untap if the action is successful, or
> only if the referendum is successful?
>
> Literal interpretation of the phrasing indicates the former, but comparison
> with the clan-linked Praxis Seizures suggests the latter (although a ruling
> was required for the Praxis Seizures).
>
> Also note the slight difference in wording in the last sentence of the
> Praxis Seizures vs the Crusades, i.e., "Prince" compared to "vampire". (The
> use of "Prince" would seem to imply a successful referendum is necessary;
> the use of "vampire" is less clear.)
> Praxis Seizure: Barcelona [DS:U2]
> Cardtype: Political Action
>
> Capacity: [TREMERE ICON]
>
> Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any <Camarilla> vampire at +1
> stealth.
> Successful <referendum> means the acting vampire is declared Prince of
> Barcelona. This could lead to a contested title. If the prince is Tremere,
> his or her capacity increases by 1.
Spiridonas repeatedly calls Praxis Barcelona and votes it down for
infinite capacity ;P
[obviously this wouldn't work -i just liked the idea]
LSJ
> If a vampire of the appropriate clan plays one of the new Crusades
> (Barcelona, Brussels, Rome) does it untap if the action is successful, or
> only if the referendum is successful?
Only if the referendum passes. As with all referendums' effects that are
not explicitly independent of the results of the referendum.
> Also note the slight difference in wording in the last sentence of the
> Praxis Seizures vs the Crusades, i.e., "Prince" compared to "vampire". (The
> use of "Prince" would seem to imply a successful referendum is necessary;
> the use of "vampire" is less clear.)
That's because the capacity bonus is tied to the praxis (lose the city, lose
the bonus).
The untap is not. If the referendum passes and the vampire begins contesting
the archbishopric, the vampire (who is still not an archbishop) untaps during
the discard phase.
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