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LSJ- The Jones versus Flash Grenade

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XZealot

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Oct 22, 2007, 8:06:03 PM10/22/07
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So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis
conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb
plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash
Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can
Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again?

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp

LSJ

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Oct 22, 2007, 8:12:05 PM10/22/07
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XZealot wrote:
> So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis
> conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb
> plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash
> Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can
> Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again?

It stays, and it can be chosen again.

XZealot

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Oct 22, 2007, 8:20:38 PM10/22/07
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Does the same go for a gun and Dragon Breath rounds?

LSJ

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Oct 22, 2007, 9:02:18 PM10/22/07
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XZealot wrote:
> On Oct 22, 7:12 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>> XZealot wrote:
>>> So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis
>>> conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb
>>> plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash
>>> Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can
>>> Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again?
>> It stays, and it can be chosen again.
>
> Does the same go for a gun and Dragon Breath rounds?

It would, except Jones is played as the strike card is played.

So it can be used on in-play strikes, so scratch my answer above -- the set-up
is not legal: can't use The Jones against a Flash Grenade (nor a .44).

XZealot

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Oct 22, 2007, 9:32:58 PM10/22/07
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So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is
played for a manuever?

agzocgud

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Oct 23, 2007, 1:54:18 AM10/23/07
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> So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is
> played for a manuever?
>

Sure, cancels as it is played (card text). Doesn´t matter when the
strike card is played. Simillar, the Jones would not work against
Shroud of abscense (superior), which is not a strike card, just a way
to get a strike (just like flash grenade).

Jones, The
Type: Combat
Requires: Serpentis
Only usable in combat with an ally or younger vampire.
[ser] Strike: dodge, with an optional press, only usable to end
combat.
[SER] Cancel the opposing minion's strike card as it is played. (No
cost is paid, and the minion chooses another strike). A vampire may
play only one The Jones at superior each round.


LSJ

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Oct 23, 2007, 6:36:29 AM10/23/07
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agzocgud wrote:
>> So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is
>> played for a manuever?
>>
>
> Sure, cancels as it is played (card text). Doesn´t matter when the
> strike card is played. Simillar, the Jones would not work against

Correct. Google: "jones strike maneuver author:LSJ" or "jones gate author:LSJ"

> Shroud of abscense (superior), which is not a strike card, just a way
> to get a strike (just like flash grenade).

Correct.

tigernat1

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Oct 23, 2007, 12:58:07 PM10/23/07
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Just play "The Jones" at inferior. The Flash Grenade has no effect
and is burned ;-)

Silly Norm trying to make things more complex than they need to be!

Vegas gNat

Salem

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Oct 23, 2007, 5:24:56 PM10/23/07
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tigernat1 wrote:
> On Oct 22, 5:06 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>> So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis
>> conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb
>> plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash
>> Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can
>> Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again?
>>
>> Comments Welcome,
>> Norman S. Brown, Jr
>> XZealot
>> Archon of the Swamp
>
> Just play "The Jones" at inferior. The Flash Grenade has no effect
> and is burned ;-)

well, except for the bit where combat ends....which I think sort of
works against the desire to beat the snot out of Travis.

> Silly Norm trying to make things more complex than they need to be!

He thinks outside the box. Thinking is good! Even if you get it wrong
sometimes, at least you learn!

--
salem
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