Perfectionist and Freak Drive LSJ
librarian
Takes an action that costs no blood. Freak Drives and pays
the blood. Takes another action that costs no blood. No
reactions were played on either action.
The blood it seems could go either way:
Action 1
Perfectionist blood goes on, then burns off since vamp is full.
Freak Drive
Vamp is down 1 blood.
Action 2
Vamp ends at capacity -1 blood.
OR
Action 1
Freak Drive
Vamp is down 1 blood
Action 2
Perfectionist blood goes on
Vamp ends at full capacity.
Text of Perfectionist is pretty clear that the gaining of
the blood is not optional. However, after the first action,
you don't know that the second action will succeed with no
reactions being played. So, you can't choose to delay the
Perfectionist blood gain, can you? Or can you?
Perfectionist [Gehenna:C, KoT:C]
Cardtype: Master
Master: archetype.
Put this card on a vampire you control. Once per turn, when
this vampire sucessfully performs an action and no reaction
cards are played, he or she gains 1 blood after the action
is resolved. A vampire can have only one archetype.
Artist: Ken Meyer, Jr.
best -
chris
Neil
> Vamp A is full and has for and is a Perfectionist.
>
> Takes an action that costs no blood. Freak Drives and pays
> the blood. Takes another action that costs no blood. No
> reactions were played on either action.
>
> The blood it seems could go either way:
>
> Action 1
> Perfectionist blood goes on, then burns off since vamp is full.
> Freak Drive
> Vamp is down 1 blood.
> Action 2
> Vamp ends at capacity -1 blood.
AFAICS, Freak Drive is played in the same "after resolving the action"
window as the blood gain from Perfectionist, so surely you can order
these effects as you choose?
So why not?
Action 1
Freak Drive
Perfectionist blood goes on for successful action (since now longer
full)
Action 2
LSJ
> On Jan 22, 6:33 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>
> > Vamp A is full and has for and is a Perfectionist.
>
> > Takes an action that costs no blood. Freak Drives and pays
> > the blood. Takes another action that costs no blood. No
> > reactions were played on either action.
>
> > The blood it seems could go either way:
>
> > Action 1
> > Perfectionist blood goes on, then burns off since vamp is full.
> > Freak Drive
> > Vamp is down 1 blood.
> > Action 2
> > Vamp ends at capacity -1 blood.
>
> AFAICS, Freak Drive is played in the same "after resolving the action"
> window as the blood gain from Perfectionist, so surely you can order
> these effects as you choose?
Correct.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/2413eb58f02b8ebd
Meej
> Text of Perfectionist is pretty clear that the gaining of
> the blood is not optional. However, after the first action,
> you don't know that the second action will succeed with no
> reactions being played. So, you can't choose to delay the
> Perfectionist blood gain, can you? Or can you?
I'm pretty sure that there's no option to delay Perfectionist under
any circumstances. The first time in a turn the conditions are met,
it happens. (As stated and confirmed by LSJ, though, there's no
reason you can't play the freak, then put the Perfectionist blood on.)
- D.J.
LSJ
librarian
So if vamp has Rutor's hand and Perfectionist, takes 2
actions, the second of which costs a blood, xe can't use the
Perfectionist on the 2nd action? I.e., the blood flow MUST
look like this:
Vamp full
Action 1 (no reaction cards played)
Perfectionist can be used in this window, or not at all
again this turn.
Vamp blood: capacity +1 blood, 1 blood drains off
OR
Vamp blood: no change (Perfectionist not used)
Action 2 costs 1 blood (no reaction cards played)
Vamp ending blood: Capacity -1 blood.
That's correct, right?
best -
chris
floppyzedolfin
> So if vamp has Rutor's hand and Perfectionist, takes 2
> actions, the second of which costs a blood, xe can't use the
> Perfectionist on the 2nd action? I.e., the blood flow MUST
> look like this:
>
> Vamp full
> Action 1 (no reaction cards played)
> Perfectionist can be used in this window, or not at all
> again this turn.
> Vamp blood: capacity +1 blood, 1 blood drains off
>
> OR
>
> Vamp blood: no change (Perfectionist not used)
>
> Action 2 costs 1 blood (no reaction cards played)
> Vamp ending blood: Capacity -1 blood.
>
> That's correct, right?
>
> best -
>
> chris
You don't "use" the Perfectionist. It (mandatorily) triggers on its
side without asking for your permission.
Action 1
If successful, no reaction cards played: Gain 1 from Perfectionist.
Blood excess drains off, as usual.
Action 2
If successful, no reaction cards played, and if Perfectionist hasn't
been triggered previously: Gain 1 from Perfectionist. Blood excess
drains off.
In your example, the vampire would end with capacity - 1 blood.