rotschreck and cards quest.
wijsman
What happens if a minion used disguised weapon and pulled out a saturday
night special and plays dragon breath rounds to boost it up a little,
can he play rotschreck on the opposing vamp.? If this is possible, is
the gun burned?
Another rotschreck situation: an escaped mental patient blocks a vamp
and strikes with +1 aggr. after which he is supposed to be burned. If
rotschreck is played on the vamp opposing the patient, is the patient
still burned? Can the patient choose to 'attempt' the +1 aggr strike to
be able to play rotschreck?
Tuomas Rinta
>
> What happens if a minion used disguised weapon and pulled out a saturday
> night special and plays dragon breath rounds to boost it up a little,
> can he play rotschreck on the opposing vamp.? If this is possible, is
> the gun burned?
since Rotshreck ends combat immediately.
Another rotschreck situation: an escaped mental patient blocks a vamp
> and strikes with +1 aggr. after which he is supposed to be burned. If
> rotschreck is played on the vamp opposing the patient, is the patient
> still burned? Can the patient choose to 'attempt' the +1 aggr strike to
> be able to play rotschreck?
Yes you can, and no, the patient is not burned (for the same reason)
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Sorrow
> > and strikes with +1 aggr. after which he is supposed to be burned. If
> > rotschreck is played on the vamp opposing the patient, is the patient
> > still burned? Can the patient choose to 'attempt' the +1 aggr strike to
> > be able to play rotschreck?
> Yes you can, and no, the patient is not burned (for the same reason)
No, the patient is burned.
Escaped Mental Patient
2 pool
Malkavian Antitribu
Ally
Ally with 1 life.
1 hand damage, 0 bleed.
As a (D) action, Escaped Mental Patient can enter combat
with any minion as a (D) action. He or she can strike for +1
aggravated hand damage. Burn him or her at the end of
combat if he or she does so.
Larry Snelly
Uncommon
Since the patient's strike was for agg damage (otherwise,
Rotz couldn't be played), s/he is burned. It's not whether
or not the strike was successful that causes the burning
but whether or not the strike was agg in the first place.
Sorrow
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LSJ
>
> > Hello again,
> >
> > What happens if a minion used disguised weapon and pulled out a saturday
> > night special and plays dragon breath rounds to boost it up a little,
> > can he play rotschreck on the opposing vamp.? If this is possible, is
> > the gun burned?
> Rotshreck can be played in this situation, and no, the gun is not burned
> since Rotshreck ends combat immediately.
>
> > and strikes with +1 aggr. after which he is supposed to be burned. If
> > rotschreck is played on the vamp opposing the patient, is the patient
> > still burned? Can the patient choose to 'attempt' the +1 aggr strike to
> > be able to play rotschreck?
> Yes you can, and no, the patient is not burned (for the same reason)
Correct on both counts.
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LSJ
>
> > Another rotschreck situation: an escaped mental patient blocks a vamp
> > > and strikes with +1 aggr. after which he is supposed to be burned. If
> > > rotschreck is played on the vamp opposing the patient, is the patient
> > > still burned? Can the patient choose to 'attempt' the +1 aggr strike to
> > > be able to play rotschreck?
> > Yes you can, and no, the patient is not burned (for the same reason)
>
>
> Escaped Mental Patient
> As a (D) action, Escaped Mental Patient can enter combat
> with any minion as a (D) action. He or she can strike for +1
> aggravated hand damage. Burn him or her at the end of
> combat if he or she does so.
>
> Rotz couldn't be played), s/he is burned. It's not whether
> or not the strike was successful that causes the burning
> but whether or not the strike was agg in the first place.
No. Patient has only announced his attempt to strike. Rotschreck
is played before strike resolution, so the patient doesn't
actually get to strike for +1 aggravated hand damage. So he isn't
burned.
Sorrow
> > Ally with 1 life. 1 hand damage, 0 bleed.
> > As a (D) action, Escaped Mental Patient can enter combat
> > with any minion as a (D) action. He or she can strike for +1
> > aggravated hand damage. Burn him or her at the end of
> > combat if he or she does so.
> is played before strike resolution, so the patient doesn't
> actually get to strike for +1 aggravated hand damage. So he isn't
> burned.
But how can that be right. The card doesn't say anything about
only if the strike resolves the patient get burned. The patient is
still striking for +1 agg HD. If s/he wasn't, then Rotz couldn't be
played. So because the patient's strike was agg, the patient
should burn as per card text.
Sorrow
James Coupe
<cbo...@apdi.net> writes
>But how can that be right. The card doesn't say anything about
>only if the strike resolves the patient get burned.
Ah, but it does. It says if he strikes. All he has currently done is
announced what he will strike with. He never actually strikes until you
get to the striking phase, which you haven't done because of the
Rotschreck.
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James Coupe
LSJ
>
> > > Escaped Mental Patient
> > > Ally with 1 life. 1 hand damage, 0 bleed.
> > > As a (D) action, Escaped Mental Patient can enter combat
> > > with any minion as a (D) action. He or she can strike for +1
> > > aggravated hand damage. Burn him or her at the end of
> > > combat if he or she does so.
> > No. Patient has only announced his attempt to strike. Rotschreck
> > is played before strike resolution, so the patient doesn't
> > actually get to strike for +1 aggravated hand damage. So he isn't
> > burned.
>
> only if the strike resolves the patient get burned.
But is does say "if he or she does so" meaning "if he or she strikes
for +1 agg".
> The patient is still striking for +1 agg HD.
> If s/he wasn't, then Rotz couldn't be played.
No, he or she is attempting to strike (which is sufficient for Rotz)
He or she isn't actually striking until the strike resolution phase (which
never gets reached).
> So because the patient's strike was agg, the patient
> should burn as per card text.
The patient didn't get to strike (since there's no strike resolution),
so his or her strike wasn't the agg one (nor was it any other strike).