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Taking the Skin: Minion Question?

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echia...@yahoo.com

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May 3, 2009, 11:23:57 PM5/3/09
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Taking the Skin: Minion
Action Modifier/Combat
Abombwe
abo: Reflex. Cancel a frenzy card played on this vampire as it is
played.
abo: Skin. Play when this vampire burns a minion. Put this card on
this vampire and untap him or her. This vampire may bleed an
additional time this turn and gets +1 bleed and +1 stealth when
bleeding. Burn this card during your discard phase. A minion can have
only one skin.

Uchenna Bum's Rushes a Nocturn, burning it and playing Taking the
Skin: Minion. Uchenna then bleeds and Freak Drives. He bleeds for a
second time (due to Taking the Skin: Minion) and Freak Drives again.

If Taking the Skin: Minion is burned (say, via Cleansing Ritual or
someone else using a Smear Campaign) and then Uchenna plays a new
Taking the Skin: Minion (after burning another Nocturn), may he then
bleed a third time? (Or does the second Taking the Skin factor in that
he has already bled twice and not allow a third time?)

LSJ

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May 4, 2009, 6:52:24 AM5/4/09
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A vampire gets Taking the Skin: Minion and then bleeds twice. If that Skin is
burned somehow and the vampire gets another Taking the Skin: Minion, does the
new Skin's "may bleed an additional time this turn" text mean he can bleed again
this turn?

Yes.

Blooded Sand

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May 4, 2009, 7:35:13 AM5/4/09
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On May 4, 12:52 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:

Yikes.....

nikola...@gmail.com

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May 4, 2009, 10:55:19 AM5/4/09
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On 4 Maj, 12:52, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> Yes.- Skjul tekst i anførselstegn -
>
> - Vis tekst i anførselstegn -

Will all affects that could be available on a succesful bleed, be
available on each of those available bleeds actions as long as they
dont have the "During x, do y" wording?

For instance, will Luke Fellows untap after all of those bleeds?
Luke Fellows, 7, CEL OBF PRO, Gangrel Antitribu, 4, [Third:V]
Sabbat: If Luke bleeds successfully, he untaps at the end of the
action.

Same for
Vasiliy Vasilevich, 8, for pro ANI CHI, Ravnos, 5, [LotN:U]
Independent: When Vasiliysuccessfully bleeds your prey, he untaps at
the end of the action. +1bleed.

LSJ

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May 4, 2009, 11:00:43 AM5/4/09
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nikola...@gmail.com wrote:
> For instance, will Luke Fellows untap after all of those bleeds?
> Luke Fellows, 7, CEL OBF PRO, Gangrel Antitribu, 4, [Third:V]
> Sabbat: If Luke bleeds successfully, he untaps at the end of the
> action.

Luke untaps at the end of each action in which he bleeds successfully, per card
text, yeah.

> Same for
> Vasiliy Vasilevich, 8, for pro ANI CHI, Ravnos, 5, [LotN:U]
> Independent: When Vasiliysuccessfully bleeds your prey, he untaps at
> the end of the action. +1bleed.

Same, yeah, assuming each bleed is against the prey. He also gets +1 bleed on
each of his bleed actions.

Blooded Sand

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May 4, 2009, 11:53:38 AM5/4/09
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On May 4, 5:00 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:

This means you average Ventrue could bleed with Govern, the
Intimidation, then bladebla, then whatever? Hmmm, Sneakiness has to
ensue now....

LSJ

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May 4, 2009, 1:02:02 PM5/4/09
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Not really. The average Vetrue doesn't have Abombwe (to say nothing of the
wherewithal to burn two minions on demand).

James Coupe

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May 4, 2009, 1:14:59 PM5/4/09
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Blooded Sand <sand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>This means you average Ventrue could bleed with Govern, the
>Intimidation, then bladebla, then whatever? Hmmm, Sneakiness has to
>ensue now....

Your average Ventrue doesn't have Abombwe and isn't burning minions that
easily, on average.

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