Momentary Delay and Psyche IANLSJ
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requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the
end of an
action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally
(after any
combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has
occured, nor
if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or
ended combat
before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked.
That gets the first opportunity to be played...
MD (action modifier) or Psyche (combat)
Can Psyche be played after an action modifier has been played?
Can MD be played following a Psyched combat or does the Psyched combat
count as another round of combat?
Matt
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Also I assume MD would be played after the combats que'd by Blood
Brother Ambush and
Conscripted Statue. Correct?
LSJ
> Momentary Delay.disciplineless action modifier.
> requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the
> end of an
> action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally
> (after any
> combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has
> occured, nor
> if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or
> ended combat
> before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked.
>
> MD (action modifier) or Psyche (combat)
Psyche. MD is "only usable at the end of an action"
> Can MD be played following a Psyched combat or does the Psyched combat
> count as another round of combat?
Every round of combat counts as a round of combat.
> Also I assume MD would be played after the combats que'd by Blood
> Brother Ambush and
> Conscripted Statue. Correct?
At the end of the action, yes. Making it unplayable after queued
combats (assuming the total number of rounds exceeded 1).
Frederick Scott
news:c0513243-13c4-4065...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> Momentary Delay.disciplineless action modifier.
> requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the
> end of an
> action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally
> (after any
> combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has
> occured, nor
> if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or
> ended combat
> before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked.
>
> That gets the first opportunity to be played...
> MD (action modifier) or Psyche (combat)
> Can Psyche be played after an action modifier has been played?
I don't understand the questions. I believe Psyche! is a combat card
and needs to be played / can only be played in combat. Momentary Delay
can only be played after combat ends in order to resolve whether it
can be played or not. So the order in which the two cards are played
is not optional - must be: Psyche! first, during the combat and
Momentary Delay after, after the combat has ended (if it could be
then be played).
> Can MD be played following a Psyched combat or does the Psyched combat
> count as another round of combat?
I would assume that if Psyche! is played, the new combat starts before
Momentary Delay could be played. Then, after that combat (and any
others), you would ask, "Have there been more than one round of combat?"
Yes - at least two rounds in two separate combats. So MD could not be
played.
But that assumes I'm right and that it wasn't allowed to sneak the MD
in between the two combats, about which I'm not sure.
> Also I assume MD would be played after the combats que'd by Blood
> Brother Ambush and
> Conscripted Statue. Correct?
Again, that sounds right to me. But I'm not sure.
Fred
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Sorry I missed the at the end of the action in card text.
Can MD be played if Elysium: The Arboretum (and the like) is tap to
end combat?
LSJ
> > > Momentary Delay.disciplineless action modifier.
> > > requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the
> > > end of an
> > > action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally
> > > (after any
> > > combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has
> > > occured, nor
> > > if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or
> > > ended combat
> > > before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked.
> Can MD be played if Elysium: The Arboretum (and the like) is tap to
> end combat?
Sure. So long as no more than one round of combat has occurred and the
vampire has not lost 3 or more blood this action.
Haze
But combat is ending before the press step, so wouldn't it be
unplayable?
Can MD be used if the blocking minion used S:CE, or a master card
caused it to end? or is it only checking if THIS acting vampire ended
combat by playing a combat card or using an ability?
wedge
>or is it only checking if THIS acting vampire ended
> combat by playing a combat card or using an ability?
That is in effect what I was asking.
Powerlord
disciplineless action modifier.
requires a vamp with capacity 7 or more. only usable at the end of an
action blocked by a vamp with capacity 5 or less or an ally (after any
combats) Not usable if more then one round of combat has occured, nor
if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or ended combat
before the press step. the action continues as if unblocked.
Elysium: The Arboretum
Cardtype: Master
Master: unique location.
Only usable when a Camarilla vampire you control is in combat with
another Camarilla vampire. You may tap this card before range is
determined to end combat. Any Camarilla vampire can call a referendum
to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
> But combat is ending before the press step, so wouldn't it be
> unplayable?
No, combat is ending but not due to THIS ACTING vampire's S:CE.
> Can MD be used if the blocking minion used S:CE, or a master card
> caused it to end? or is it only checking if THIS acting vampire ended
> combat by playing a combat card or using an ability?
The card only checks if the THIS ACTING vampire is ending combat
before the press step, not if the combat itself is beeing ended by any
other means such as:
- Elysium: The Arboretum
- Purchase Pact
- Garibaldi-Meucci Museum
- Powerbase: Savannah
- Phobia
- Living Manse
- Alfred Benezri (ADV)
- Mariel, Lady Thunder
Neither if the blocking minion is ending combat before the press step.
Ricardo Marta
Prince of Lisboa
Portugal
Haze
Right, I realized it was a stupid question after posting it, since I
misread a post.
Here's another stupid question: can the acting vampire play MD after
burning or torpor-ing the blocking minion on the first round? since
doing so does "end combat" according to the rules.
if it's playable, this could be an amusing trick for combat decks.
rush famous vampire, get blocked, send to torpor, continue rushing
original target.
Powerlord
> Here's another stupid question: can the acting vampire play MD after
> burning or torpor-ing the blocking minion on the first round? since
> doing so does "end combat" according to the rules.
>
> if it's playable, this could be an amusing trick for combat decks.
> rush famous vampire, get blocked, send to torpor, continue rushing
> original target.- Ocultar texto citado -
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> - Mostrar texto citado -
"(...) NOR IF THIS VAMPIRE HAS (lost 3 or more blood this action or)
ENDED COMBAT BEFORE THE PRESS STEP (...)"
Sorry about the CAPS, just to mark the text.
Once again as in the previous examples, in this combat the acting
vampire did not ended combat before the press step, the combat didn't
reach the press step due to the opposing vampire beeing torporized or
burned, or ally beeing incapacitated or burned. So, since it is not
this acting vampire's "fault", he can continue.
But then again, IANLSJ, i just read the cards :)