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Petri Wessman

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Tournament: Finnish 2010 ECQ
Date: Friday July 23rd, 2010
Place: Ropecon 2010 gaming convention, Dipoli, Espoo, Finland
Players: 93
Winner: Otso Saariluoma (see below for deck list)

As traditional, I ran a big VTES tournament at Ropecon this year. This
year it was also the Finnish Qualifier for the European Championships
in Paris (to be played in October).

Attendance was fantastic, we got a grand total of 93 players; I think
that's the second-largest Ropecon VTES tournament ever. As usual most
of
the players were local – well, Finnish at least – but we had a nice
mini-delegation of foreign players also attending: five Swedes, one
Dane, and one guy from the States (via Hungary). Despite a brave
attempt, this year's win didn't go to the Swedes, though it /was/
close
to going to that insidious “Ben” guy. Justice and the Finnish Way
prevailed in the end, though. :)

We also had five totally new tournament players, which is always nice.
Welcome, guys.

Besides attendance, I was very happy with how things went in general,
too. We got started more or less on time, everyone who had
pre-registered actually turned up, and many people helped out. Special
thanks to Janne Lönnqvist, who helped with organizing prize support
and
also helped in setting up the tables before I got there.

Gamewise, it's hard to say much specific about this year; there were
just so many games that forming a coherent picture was hard. I saw
decks
from all over the spectrum, from old-school G1/2 Malk bleed machines
and
Ventrue lawfirms to new-tech Laibon and Bloodlines decks. Quite a few
decks went for a master-heavy style, often utilizing Cybele (and
Otso's
winning deck is also in this category). Villein was /all over/, and it
was fun to see people start to use Sudden Reversal (instead of Wash)
mainly to combat the endless cycles of Villein + something else. Ashur
Tablets was quite popular, and as always, Dominate was a popular
discipline… but that comes as no surprise.

This year's finalist decks were all bleedy/voty affairs, with lots of
high-cap vampires (and Villeins :) in use. The final round was very
interesting to watch; while some final rounds can stagnate into long
bloat-filled affairs, here things kept happening all the time and for
a
while it was quite impossible to see who would win out. In the end,
Otso's master card horror of a deck (which employs some very fun tech)
won out – as Ben said after the tournament, his deck simply didn't
have
anything to reliably take it down (besides bleed like hell). It was
fun
to see Ben using a Kiasyd deck; he was staying over at our place and
just the previous night we had sat on our patio and talked some VTES,
and he noted that he wasn't sure if Kiasyds are quite tier1 due to
lack
of cross-table actions. We also talked about how silly-good Gremlins
is.
Well, tier1 or not, his Kiasyd affair (with lots of Gremlins) ended up
being the next-to-last man standing in the final round.


Grats to all the finalists, and also to the other high-scorers. You
did
good.

I'd like to (again) thank all the players for keeping this a relaxed
and
sportsmanlike tournament, despite the size, and for having patience
when
things don't /quite/ start up on time or there's some sort of mess
somewhere. There is no way I could run a tournament of this size with
argumentative or difficult players. So… thanks, guys. I'd also like to
thank White Wolf and the Fantasiapelit game store for generous prize
support; we had a full Anarchs factory set, a Sabbat War rare set,
many
boxes of boosters, and other stuff to give to the finalists… and of
course, all the EC qualified players got a spiffy t-shirt. Everyone
who
attended also got a /big/ pile of promos.

Was fun, see you next year (and/or in Paris).

-Petri “Orava” Wessman

Results

The *bolded* players received EC qualification for 2010.

Rank Name Prelim GWs Prelim VPs Final VPs Deck/
comment
1 *Otso Saariluoma* 2 8 3 AD&D (Advanced
Derange & Dementia)
2 *Are Vaskela* 3 10 Stolishnaja
2 *Tuomas Vuokko* 2 9 1 Rape the Honor
2 *Pasi Karjalainen* 2 7 Unnamed
2 *Ben Peal* 3 11 1 Kiasyd
6 *Marko Saari* 2 7 Faster
Pussycat, Kill Kill!
7 *Kirmo Lassheikki* 2 6.5
8 *Heikki Parviainen* 2 6.5
9 *Erik Torstensson* 2 5.5
10 *Aleksi Kivilahti* 1 7
11 *Seppo Lipponen* 1 7
12 *Juri Juskevits* 1 6
13 *Tommi Ketonen* 1 6 Twilight
14 *Jyri Puhakka* 1 5.5
15 *Juho Vuorikoski* 1 5 Maria Stone
Werewolf
16 *Michael Holmström* 1 5
16 *Elias Maliniemi* 1 5
16 *Ville Kaijasaari* 1 5
19 *Kari Mäkinen* 1 5
20 *Adam Esbjörnsson* 1 4.5 Protean
toolbox
21 *Jarkko Suvela* 1 4.5
22 *Mika Nurmikolu* 1 4 Boston Tea
Party
23 *Heikki Palomäki* 1 4 Monarchy
24 Mika Uusi-Kilponen 1 4
25 Tommi Hakomaa 1 4 (.)(.)
26 Kari Vieno 1 4
27 Marko Lindroos 1 3.5
28 Taija Kanerva 1 3
28 Mikko Hyvärinen 1 3
28 Eemil Lagerspetz 1 3
31 Isak Bjämark Esbjörnsson 1 3 Kiasyd toolbox
32 Peter Kaario 1 3 EVVK
33 Tuukka Kallas 1 2.5
34 Hannu Kokkonen 1 2.5
35 Juha Järvensivu 0 5
36 Janne Lönnqvist 0 4.5
37 Akseli Jalava 0 4.5 Fuck My Life
38 Tomi Parkkonen 0 3.5
39 Jussi Hattara 0 3.5 Onks tikui?
40 Tom Lindberg 0 3
41 Kenneth Peltokangas 0 3
42 Samuel Mäenpää 0 3
42 Kimmo Pekkola 0 3
44 Antti Horelli 0 3
45 Antti Iivari 0 2.5
46 Matti Palomäki 0 2.5
46 Mikko Laine 0 2.5
48 Jussi Koskimäki 0 2.5
49 Teemu Sainomaa 0 2
50 Ville Saaristo 0 2
51 Matias Frosterus 0 2
52 Arto Heinonen 0 2
53 Aleksi Nuora 0 2
54 V-H Kilpiä 0 1.5 EuroBrujah
55 Esa-Matti Smolander 0 1.5
56 Anders Löf 0 1.5
57 Ari Lensu 0 1 Sixpounder
57 Kalle Cederström 0 1
57 Antero Hakala 0 1
60 Johannes Leppä 0 1
61 Santtu Oja 0 1
61 Timo Rekola 0 1 Minäpä vihaan
Animalismia…
61 Antti Tirilä 0 1
61 Raymond Mäkeläinen 0 1 Lasombra 2000
65 Petrus Makkonen 0 1 White Halls of
Heidelberg (Serenna & Malks)
65 Jukka Lindström 0 1 Votie
67 Jokke Mustonen 0 1
68 Jani Nokkanen 0 0.5
69 Tuomas Nyberg 0 0.5
69 Lasse Pöyry 0 0.5
69 Otso Turunen 0 0.5
69 Lauri Salmi 0 0.5
69 Sami Dadu 0 0.5 Mad Hand!
74 Jussi Ranta 0 0.5
74 Teemu Pulkkinen 0 0.5 Malkavian S+B
76 Markku Puska 0 0.5
77 Mikko Moisander 0 0 Teurastus
rajalla
77 Johan Wahlström 0 0 Tzimisce /
Toreador-AT
77 Ari-Pekka Alestalo 0 0 Vaeltajien
seura Mk.II
80 Joonas Oja 0 0
81 Niko Heinonen 0 0
81 Juhani Puska 0 0
81 Tuukka Tervonen 0 0
81 Jesper Wøldiche 0 0 Chock full of
Volker
81 Taija Sainomaa 0 0
81 Sami Nyyssölä 0 0 Kikka
87 Timo Snellman 0 0
87 Rami Hänninen 0 0 Nimby
87 Jari Mäkikyrö 0 0 Pariisiin!
87 Otto Kukkasniemi 0 0
91 Teuvo Lähteenmäki 0 0
91 Jere Suvanto 0 0 Who needs
Dominate?
93 Miika Karmitsa 0 0


Decklists

Tournament Winner

Deck Name: AD&D (Advanced Derange & Dementia)
Author: Otso Saariluoma

Description: The same deck I played before, this time with slight
alterations, as I found Unmada too important to miss in the opening
crypt. Temptation of Greater Power was actually an excellent addition.
If you want to use the combo in every single game (which I didn't),
I'd
suggest playing more copies of the key cards: Derange, Dementia and
Enkil Cog.

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=10 max=11 avg=10.25)
==================================================
4x Cybele 10 ANI DAI OBF PRE SER THA Baali:4
3x Lutz von Hohenzollern 11 pot AUS DEM OBF PRE Malkavian:4
5x Unmada 10 cel for AUS DEM OBF VIC Malkavian:5

Library (76 cards)
==================
Master (40)
1x Archon Investigation
6x Ashur Tablets
1x Direct Intervention
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
2x Golconda: Inner Peace
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
2x Information Highway
3x Malkavian Dementia
1x Metro Underground
1x Monastery of Shadows
3x Parthenon, The
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Temptation of Greater Power
6x Villein
1x Wash
2x Wider View
3x Zillah's Valley

Event (3)
2x Anthelios, The Red Star
1x Scourge of the Enochians

Action (6)
5x Derange
1x Entrancement

Political Action (5)
1x Banishment
2x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power

Action Modifier (12)
1x Cloak the Gathering
1x Elder Impersonation
2x Enkil Cog
2x Faceless Night
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
1x Into Thin Air
2x Lost in Crowds
1x Spying Mission

Reaction (5)
2x Eyes of Argus
3x Telepathic Misdirection

Combat (3)
3x No Trace

Combo (2)
2x Swallowed by the Night


Finalists

Deck Name : Stolishnaja
Author : Are Vaskela

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 11 average: 9.33333
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Ingrid Rossler 9 ANI FOR PRO dom prince Gangrel:
2
3x Stanislava 11 ANI CEL DOM FOR PRO inner circle Gangrel:
2
2x Lazverinus, Thrall 10 AUS DOM FOR POT pro archbishop !
Ventrue:2
1x Genevieve 10 ANI FOR PRO aus dom priscus !
Gangrel:2
1x Hartmut Stover 10 CEL OBF PRO dom for archbishop !
Gangrel:3
1x Chandler Hungerfor 3 PRO Gangrel:
2


Library [88 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [6]
6x Govern the Unaligned

Action Modifier [12]
2x Conditioning
5x Earth Control
5x Freak Drive

Action Modifier/Reaction [5]
5x Murmur of the False Will

Combat [13]
1x Bone Spur
1x Canine Horde
3x Earth Meld
8x Form of Mist

Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus

Master [24]
2x Direct Intervention
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
3x Golconda: Inner Peace
3x Information Network
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Papillon
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
9x Villein
2x Wash

Political Action [14]
2x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
1x Banishment
6x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
1x Parity Shift
1x Reins of Power

Reaction [13]
5x Deflection
5x On the Qui Vive
2x Second Tradition: Domain
1x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Deck Name : Ben Peal's Ropecon 2010 deck

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 8 average: 6.83333
------------------------------------------------------------

2x Arcadian, The 8 DOM MYT OBT chi for Kiasyd:5
2x Pherydima 8 DOM MYT NEC obt pot bishop Kiasyd:4
2x Omme Enberbenight 7 MYT OBT cel dom priscus Kiasyd:4
2x Roderick Phillips 7 DOM MYT cel obt tha Kiasyd:4
2x Isanwayen 6 DOM MYT OBT Kiasyd:4
2x Dame Hollerton 5 DOM OBT myt Kiasyd:4


Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------


Action [17]
5x Govern the Unaligned
9x Gremlins
3x Song of Pan

Action Modifier [22]
9x Bonding
1x Foreshadowing Destruction
4x Shadow Play
4x Shroud of Absence
4x Stone Travel

Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Fae Contortion

Ally [10]
10x Nocturn

Master [15]
1x Barrens, The
4x Blood Doll
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Great Symposium
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
5x Sudden Reversal
1x Wider View

Reaction [18]
8x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
2x On the Qui Vive
6x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Reaction/Action Modifier [4]
4x Aura Absorption

Deck Name : Unnamed
Author : Pasi Karjalainen

Description : Originally developed by my brother Toni Karjalainen. I
simply thinned the deck down to 77 cards to make it more effective.

The deck generates massive amounts of pool and bleeds. Specialties of
Xeper and Annazir can single handily stop certain strategies e.g.
allies. To improve the deck I would now add a second Narrow Minds.

Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 3 max: 10 average: 7
------------------------------------------------------------

4x unnamed, The 10 CEL DAI OBF PRE PRO Baali:6
4x Horde, The 3 dai obf pre Baali:6
1x Nergal 10 AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA Baali:5
1x Annazir 9 DAI OBF POT PRE 2 votes Baali:5
1x Xeper, Sultan of L 7 OBF PRE ani dai pro Baali:6
1x Arishat 6 DAI OBF PRE 1 vote Baali:6


Library (77 cards)
------------------------------------------------------------

Action (15)
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
2x Entrancement
7x Legal Manipulations
4x Social Charm
1x Unleash Hell's Fury

Action Modifier (23)
3x Cloak the Gathering
4x Elder Impersonation
1x Enkil Cog
3x Faceless Night
2x I am Legion
4x Lost in Crowds
2x Psychomachia
4x Spying Mission

Ally (1)
1x Veneficti (Mage)

Combat (7)
7x Majesty

Event (2)
1x Narrow Minds
1x Scourge of the Enochians

Master (17)
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Jake Washington (Hunter)
1x Ruins of Charizel
1x Sudden Reversal
6x Tend the Flock
5x Villein

Reaction (5)
2x Delaying Tactics
3x On the Qui Vive

Reaction/Action Modifier (7)
7x Sense the Sin


Deck Name: Rape the honor
Created By: Tuomas Vuokko

Description: Deck that powers the mind rapes with honor the elders,
has
excellent bleedpower once it gets going.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 36, Max: 44, Avg: 10,2)
----------------------------------------------
1 Lucinde Alastor DOM FOR obf pot PRE tha10
Ventrue
3 Lutz Von Hohenzollern pot AUS DEM OBF PRE11 Malkavian
1 Marcus Vitel DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE10 Ventrue
1 Mistress Fanchion AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC11
Tremere
2 Orlando Oriundus obf AUS DOM THA9 Tremere
Antitribu
1 Paul Cordwood obf pre AUS DOM THA8 Tremere
Antitribu
3 Rafael de Corazon AUS CEL DOM OBF PRE11 Toreador


Library: (90 cards)
-------------------
Master (19 cards)
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
3 Information Highway
2 Monastery of Shadows
7 Villein
2 Golconda: Inner Peace

Action (15 cards)
2 Entrancement
5 Govern the Unaligned
8 Mind Rape

Action Modifier (23 cards)
4 Faceless Night
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
4 Lost in Crowds
4 Veil the Legions
4 Voter Captivation
2 Conditioning
3 Elder Impersonation

Political Action (15 cards)
1 Ancient Influence
3 Banishment
9 Honor the Elders
1 Political Stranglehold
1 Reins of Power

Reaction (11 cards)
5 Deflection
2 Telepathic Misdirection
4 On the Qui Vive

Combat (7 cards)
7 Majesty

Final round transcript

This is based on my personal notes, scribbled down during the game.
Some
detail and (of course) all of the table talk is missing, and there may
be mistakes here and there. Play started at 1:32 am.

The players were (in seating order):

* Tuomas Vuokko
* Pasi Karjalainen
* Ben Peal
* Are Vaskela
* Otso Saariluoma


Round 1

Tuomas: Dreams of the Sphinx

Pasi: (just transfer)

Ben: Wider View

Are: (just transfer)

Otso: Wider View, Ashur Tablets


Round 2

Tuomas: (just use Dreams, transfer)

Pasi: (just transfer)

Ben: bring out Isanwayen

Are: (just transfer)

Otso: Heidelberg Castle


Round 3

Tuomas:

* Monastery of Shadows
* bring out Rafael de Corazon

Pauli:

* bring out Unnamed

Ben:

* Isanwayen recruits Nocturn
* Isanwayen bleeds w/Bonding
* Nocturn bleeds
* bring out Dame Hollerton

Are:

* bring out Ingrid Rossler

Otso:

* bring out Unmada

Round 4

Tuomas:

* Villein Rafael for 7
* Rafael calls Honor the Elders, passes

Pasi:

* Villein Unnamed, Suddened by Ben

Ben:

* Isanwayen bleeds w/Gremlins + Bonding, bounced to Otso

Are:

* Villein Ingrid, Suddened by Ben
* Ingrid calls Ancient Influence, passes, Delaying Tactics from
Ben

Otso:

* Villein Unmada for 8
* Ashur Tablets


Round 5

Tuomas:

* Rafael calls Honor the Elders, passes
* bring out Mistress Fanchon

Pasi:

* Villein Unnamed for 6
* Unnamed bleeds w/Social Charm, blocked by Dame Hollerton who
goes to torpor in combat
* bring out Nergal

Ben:

* Isanwayen recruits Nocturn
* Isanwayen rescues Dame Hollerton
* Dame Hollerton bleeds with Bonding
* bring out The Arcadian


Are:

* Golconda on Arcadian, Ben pays 2
* Ingrid calls Parity Shift, DI from Otso
* Ingrid bleeds with Govern, bounced to Tuomas, bounced to Pasi,
Nergal blocks and plays Majesty

Otso:

* bring out Cybele


Round 6

Tuomas:

* Villein Mistress Fanchon for 6
* Rafael Mind Rapes Nergal (with stealth)
* Mistress Fanchon bleeds for 3

Pasi:

* (nothing)

Ben:

* Dreams of the Sphinx
* Arcadian plays Song of Pan, Unnamed tries to block but fails
* Isanwayen bleeds w/Gremlins
* Arcadian bleeds w/Govern + Bonding
* Dame Hollerton bleeds w/Govern

Are:

* Golconda on Arcadian, Ben accepts (gain 8 pool)
* Ingrid calls Reins of Power, passes, Freak Drive

Otso:

* Parthenon
* Villein Cybele for 10
* Giant's Blood on Cybele
* Metro Underground
* Cybele bleeds for 3, bounced to Pasi, Unnamed tries to block,
Tuomas uses his Monastery to add stealth, block fails


Round 7


Tuomas:

* Mistress Fanchon bleeds for 3, Unnamed tries to block, (Mind
Raped) Nergal Veils the Legion paying 8 blood, block fails
* Nergal bleeds (with Veiled +1 stealth), *Pasi is ousted*
* Rafael bleeds for 3 (with Veiled +1 stealth), bounced to Are, no
block

Ben:

* Pentex on Mistress Fanchon
* Isanwayen recruits Nocturn
* Isanwayen bleeds w/Gremlins + Foreshadowing Destruction, FD is
DI'ed by Are but bleed is not blocked
* Dame Hollerton bleeds w/Gremlins, stealth, *Are ousted*

Otso:

* Villein on Cybele, Suddened by Ben
* Ashur Tablets (activated)
* Villein Cybele for 7
* Cybele bleeds for 3
* bring out Lutz
* Anthelios


Round 8

Tuomas:

* Information Highway
* Rafel removes Pentex (with stealth from Monastery)
* Mistress Fanchon Governs down
* bring out Orlando
* (Otso moves 2 blood from Lutz to Cybele via Heidelberg)


Ben:

* Dame Hollerton bleeds w/Govern + Bonding, bounced to Tuomas,
bounced back to Otso, bounced back to Tuomas, no block
* bring out Arcadian

Otso:

* Ashur Tablets
* Temptation of Greater Power on Orlando, Suddened by Ben
* Pentex on Orlando
* Cybele bleeds for 3
* Lutz bleeds for 3, gains Enkil Cog
* Unmada bleeds for 1
* Scourge of the Enochians


Round 9

Tuomas:

* Villein Orlando (for 6?)
* Mistress Fanchon uses her special to fetch Banishment
* Rafael calls Banishment on Cybele, passes, Voter Cap

Ben:

* Dame Hollerton hunts
* Isanwayen bleeds for 1

Otso:

* Golconda on Rafael, Tuomas pays 2
* Lutz bleeds for 4
* Unmada bleeds for 1


Round 10


Tuomas:

* Mistress Fanchon calls Honor the Elders, passes
* Rafael bleeds w/Mind Rape, adds stealth, bounced to Otso who
plays Archon Investigation, Rafael burns
* Lutz bleeds (using Enkil Cog), *Tuomas is ousted*

Ben:

* Barrens
* Arcadian recruits Nocturn
* Arcadian bleeds w/Govern
* Nocturn bleeds
* Dame Honor bleeds
* Isanwayen bleeds

Otso:

* Villein Lutz for 9
* Unmada calls Banishment on Isanwayen, Ben plays Delaying Tactics
* Unmada Deranges Isanwayen
* Lutz bleeds for 4 (with stealth)


Round 11

Ben:

* Blood Doll on Isanwayen
* Arcadian recruits Nocturn
* Dame Hollerton bleeds w/Gremlins + Bonding
* Isanwayen bleeds w/Gremlins + Bonding
* Arcadian bleeds w/Govern
* Lutz bleeds with Enkil Cog, succeeds after some intercept and
stealth

Otso:

* Dreams of the Sphinx
* Unmada Banishes Arcadian
* Lutz bleeds, *Ben is ousted*

Final round ends at 2:47 am.

brandonsantacruz

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Aug 4, 2010, 8:12:11 PM8/4/10
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What a cool TWD! Congrats on the win. Glad to see the organizer got
all the deck lists. We wouldn't want to have to do anything...
drastic. ;)

Brandon

Petri Wessman

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:31:01 AM8/5/10
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On Aug 5, 3:12 am, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> What a cool TWD!

Yeah, I liked it too (but would not like to play next to it :D).

Also loved Ben's 5 Sudden Reversals, "to get rid of the fucking
Villeins". He was heard to mutter something along the lines of "need
more!" after the tournament ;).

-Petri

Oko

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Aug 5, 2010, 5:17:09 AM8/5/10
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And for what it's worth, the Finnish Nationals were won with a Villein-
heavy deck as well.

Lönkka

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Aug 5, 2010, 9:28:17 AM8/5/10
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On Aug 5, 12:17 pm, Oko <oko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And for what it's worth, the Finnish Nationals were won with a Villein-
> heavy deck as well.

For what it's worth, everyone's still waiting for results and
tournament report for Finnish Nationals.

So come on and put something together Otto... >:D

Janne/Lönkka
Finnish NC

Dr.Mafrune

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Aug 7, 2010, 3:41:43 PM8/7/10
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On 4 ago, 21:11, Petri Wessman <or...@iki.fi> wrote:
> (a formatted version of this can also be found athttp://vtes.orava.org/wiki/tournament:ropecon2010)
> ...
>
> leer más »

Great report, nice decks !!!!

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