Regarding out-of-game considerations?

[Alex Ek]

Hi!

Where can I find definitions and examples of illegal OOG considerations.
Searched the tournament rules for "out of game", "out-of-game", "out-of"
and "out of" and found nothing.

So where can I find it?

Regards
Alex Ek
VEKN Prince of Gothenburg

[LSJ]

Alex Ek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Where can I find definitions and examples of illegal OOG considerations.
> Searched the tournament rules for "out of game", "out-of-game", "out-of"
> and "out of" and found nothing.
>
> So where can I find it?

Illegal OOG considerations:
Anything that's not part of the game.

For example:
Tournament standing
V:EKN rating points standing
Nationality
Eye color

[Alex Ek]

LSJ skrev:

> Alex Ek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Where can I find definitions and examples of illegal OOG
>> considerations. Searched the tournament rules for "out of game",
>> "out-of-game", "out-of" and "out of" and found nothing.
>>
>> So where can I find it?
>
> Illegal OOG considerations:
> Anything that's not part of the game.
>
> For example:
> Tournament standing

Isn't this one kinda strange? When I play a tournament my highest
priority is to win the tournament. Why aren't you allowed to play for
the hypothetical tournament win from round 1. What is the motivation for
this?

> V:EKN rating points standing

Fair enough.

> Nationality

What, I'm not allowed to try to x-table oust the Swiss guys. Dammit, I
need to rethink my strategy.

One example though:

I play an 11 player tourney. So there will be a maximum of 5 GW
distributed in the tourney. I want to get into the finals. In round 1 I
have 2 VP's and no "reasonable" chance to get another VP. My prey will
oust my pred. If I self-oust that will still happend but I will thus
void the GW since I get 2, my prey 2 and my pred 1.
If I void the GW there will be atleast 1 player going in to the finals
with no GW. Having 2 VPs gives me a good chance of being that 5th player.

Question: Am I allowed to self-oust to void the GW?

[LSJ]

Alex Ek wrote:
> LSJ skrev:
>> Alex Ek wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Where can I find definitions and examples of illegal OOG
>>> considerations. Searched the tournament rules for "out of game",
>>> "out-of-game", "out-of" and "out of" and found nothing.
>>>
>>> So where can I find it?
>>
>> Illegal OOG considerations:
>> Anything that's not part of the game.
>>
>> For example:
>> Tournament standing
>
> Isn't this one kinda strange? When I play a tournament my highest
> priority is to win the tournament. Why aren't you allowed to play for
> the hypothetical tournament win from round 1. What is the motivation for
> this?

Having each game played well, without the players with previous GWs taking a
dive to manipulate the standings.

[Alex Ek]

Exellent. could you just take a look at the example and give me a yes or
no too :)

[LSJ]

Alex Ek wrote:
> Exellent. could you just take a look at the example and give me a yes or
> no too :)

Sorry. Didn't even see that example when responding earlier.

> I play an 11 player tourney. So there will be a maximum of 5 GW
> distributed in the tourney. I want to get into the finals. In round 1 I
> have 2 VP's and no "reasonable" chance to get another VP. My prey will
> oust my pred. If I self-oust that will still happend but I will thus
> void the GW since I get 2, my prey 2 and my pred 1.
> If I void the GW there will be atleast 1 player going in to the finals
> with no GW. Having 2 VPs gives me a good chance of being that 5th player.
>
> Question: Am I allowed to self-oust to void the GW?

Restating without the OOG considerations is helpful:

In some table, I have 2 VPs and no reasonable chance for more VPs. Can I do some
activity?

Answer: yes. With no reasonable chance for more VPs, you are still free to
choose from among the activities open to you. Note that every such choice leads
to 0 additional VPs (reasonably).