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RoddPrime

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Mar 19, 2010, 1:35:14 PM3/19/10
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This is one of my newest deck creations. I was wondering if anyone
had any tips or suggestions on what might improve it. I haven't fully
play tested it yet, so any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks!


Deck Name : The Mistresses' Men
Author : Rodd


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 9
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2x Mistress Fanchon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC inner circle
Tremere:4
2x Gabrielle di Righe 10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot justicar
Tremere:5
2x Dr. John Dee 9 ANI AUS DOM THA chi prince
Tremere:4
2x Gerald Windham 9 AUS DOM FOR THA
Tremere:5
2x Troius 8 AUS DOM THA cel prince
Tremere:4
2x Graham Gottesman 7 DOM FOR obf pre tha prince
Ventrue:5


Library [83 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [10]
10x Govern the Unaligned

Action Modifier [14]
4x Conditioning
4x Lost in Crowds
6x Mirror Walk

Action Modifier/Reaction [3]
3x Murmur of the False Will

Ally [3]
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Ponticulus
1x Procurer

Combat [4]
4x Rego Motus

Equipment [2]
1x Helicopter
1x Ivory Bow

Master [14]
1x Barrens, The
2x Blood Doll
1x Chantry
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Vessel
4x Villein

Political Action [17]
2x Consanguineous Boon
2x Honor the Elders
8x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold

Reaction [16]
6x Deflection
2x Eyes of Argus
4x On the Qui Vive
4x Telepathic Misdirection


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Fri Mar 19 13:26:58 2010]

Klaital

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:27:46 PM3/19/10
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I would use Orlando Oriundus instead of Graham, his special is just
too good to not use.

Blooded Sand

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:45:02 PM3/19/10
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How does this deck work?

In my meta, 2 stealth is considered a joke.
I have seen night moves needing lost in crowds to get though.....
No Rutors?
Alastor for cheap, untapped heli's?

Gerentt

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:52:42 PM3/19/10
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On Mar 19, 10:35 am, RoddPrime <roddpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is one of my newest deck creations.  I was wondering if anyone
> had any tips or suggestions on what might improve it.  I haven't fully
> play tested it yet, so any and all suggestions are welcome.  Thanks!
>
> Deck Name : The Mistresses' Men
> Author : Rodd
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 9
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4
> 2x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 2x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Gerald Windham         9  AUS DOM FOR THA
> Tremere:5
> 2x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Graham Gottesman       7  DOM FOR obf pre tha      prince
> Ventrue:5
>

Consider Orlando Oriandus (!Tre bishop 9cap, doubles your vampires'
votes, AUS DOM THA obf) over Gerald Windham. What you're concerned
with is another vote deck and they will generally have vampires with
>1 vote each.

I'd put more copies of Mistress Fanchon since you have little vote
push (need the IC votes) and her special keeps your deck humming.
YMMV.

> Library [83 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [10]
>   10x Govern the Unaligned

Rutor's Hand combos well with Fanchon's special. Search for a card,
untap and use it.
Magic of the Smith.

>
> Action Modifier [14]
>   4x Conditioning
>   4x Lost in Crowds
>   6x Mirror Walk

Enkil Cog.
Hall of Hades' Court (dom, requires >4cap vampire, gain 2 votes)
there's no vote push in your deck.

>
> Action Modifier/Reaction [3]
>   3x Murmur of the False Will


>
> Ally [3]
>   1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>   1x Ponticulus
>   1x Procurer
>
> Combat [4]
>   4x Rego Motus

Wind Dance. And more Rego Motus.


>
> Equipment [2]
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Ivory Bow

Heart of Cheating. Bowl of Convergence?

>
> Master [14]
>   1x Barrens, The
>   2x Blood Doll
>   1x Chantry
>   1x Dreams of the Sphinx
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   1x Information Highway
>   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
>   2x Vessel
>   4x Villein

Zillah's Valley in case someone else plays Info Highway. Late game it
can be discarded whenever you use Fanchon's special.

>
> Political Action [17]
>   2x Consanguineous Boon
>   2x Honor the Elders
>   8x Kine Resources Contested
>   4x Parity Shift
>   1x Political Stranglehold

Ancient Influence. Ancilla Empowerment to counter weenies. Banishment.
Try Alastor for cheap equipment and a stealth rush. With an M-16 its
rush defence.

>
> Reaction [16]
>   6x Deflection
>   2x Eyes of Argus
>   4x On the Qui Vive
>   4x Telepathic Misdirection

Unless your combat's up to par with dodges/prevents, not too sure
blocking would be advantages to your fatty vampires. Consider more
untaps to play Obedience and bounces.

RoddPrime

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Mar 19, 2010, 3:41:41 PM3/19/10
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Thanks for the advice.... I have several open slots of which I believe
I will utilize with the advised cards such as hall of hades court,
HoN, Ancilla, Ancient, and Enkil Cog.

RoddPrime

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Mar 19, 2010, 3:44:40 PM3/19/10
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I like Gerald for his built in stealth. And I like Graham as he is
cheap. If anything I think I would replace Gerald for Orlando. He is
obviously good.

Klaital

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Mar 19, 2010, 4:03:22 PM3/19/10
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I would rather use Telepathic Vote Counting than Hall of Hades' Court
with your crypt. Its free and generally gives you at least the same 2
vote difference, sometimes more.

Sutekh.23

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Mar 19, 2010, 10:30:00 PM3/19/10
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On Mar 20, 3:35 am, RoddPrime <roddpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is one of my newest deck creations.  I was wondering if anyone
> had any tips or suggestions on what might improve it.  I haven't fully
> play tested it yet, so any and all suggestions are welcome.  Thanks!
>
> Deck Name : The Mistresses' Men
> Author : Rodd
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 9
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2x Mistress Fanchon       11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC  inner circle
> Tremere:4
> 2x Gabrielle di Righe     10 ANI AUS DOM THA obf pot  justicar
> Tremere:5
> 2x Dr. John Dee           9  ANI AUS DOM THA chi      prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Gerald Windham         9  AUS DOM FOR THA
> Tremere:5
> 2x Troius                 8  AUS DOM THA cel          prince
> Tremere:4
> 2x Graham Gottesman       7  DOM FOR obf pre tha      prince
> Ventrue:5
>

Consider a combination of the following vampires instead:
-Fanchion OR Gabrielle (depending on if you want an OBF or ANI angle).
Personally, I'd go with Gabrielle to gain access to tradition based
cards however.
+ Gerald
+ Orlando
+ John dee (IF you want the ANI angle)
+ Various weenies or midcaps (preferably with DOM for deflections)

With this basis, you can assume 3-8 votes from your main vamp, Gerald
picks up stray votes via his text, which can then be doubled by
Orlando's ability, who, handily, also has a vote/s. Assuming you can
get even those 3 out (big ask, I know) you will probably have vote
lock so the need for push becomes less of an issue.

> Library [83 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [10]
>   10x Govern the Unaligned
>
> Action Modifier [14]
>   4x Conditioning
>   4x Lost in Crowds
>   6x Mirror Walk
>

Personally, I'd ditch all the lost's for more mirror walks or ditch
both for more combat, depending on your local combat/stealth/intercept
meta

> Action Modifier/Reaction [3]
>   3x Murmur of the False Will
>

They look good on paper, but I tend to ditch them in my decks. That
could however be an artifact of my playgroup (lots of high cap decks)

> Ally [3]
>   1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
>   1x Ponticulus
>   1x Procurer
>

Not sure if any of them are worth it, but that again may be a metagame
consideration.

> Combat [4]
>   4x Rego Motus
>
> Equipment [2]
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Ivory Bow
>

No Ankara?

> Master [14]
>   1x Barrens, The
>   2x Blood Doll
>   1x Chantry
>   1x Dreams of the Sphinx
>   1x Giant's Blood
>   1x Information Highway
>   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
>   2x Vessel
>   4x Villein
>

No arcane library or 'shloss?

> Political Action [17]
>   2x Consanguineous Boon
>   2x Honor the Elders
>   8x Kine Resources Contested
>   4x Parity Shift
>   1x Political Stranglehold
>

I personally dislike parity shift, but that's more due to the fact I
can never get it off when I want to. Other's have said to go for more
diversity in your votes in case of DT etc, I agree.

> Reaction [16]
>   6x Deflection
>   2x Eyes of Argus
>   4x On the Qui Vive
>   4x Telepathic Misdirection

Looks ok to me, maybe a bit light in the opening game against a weenie
horde?

Cheers
Sutekh_23

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