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(Storyline Tournament) Quickie and Incomplete Storyline Report: Scranton!

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Peter D Bakija

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:12:47 PM11/7/09
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So I just got back from the Scranton PA Storyline tournament run by
James Burns. I was probably in the finals (with 1GW/3VP) but had to
leave before the final round as I have to go practice with a Christian
Rock Band in an hour.

As of the point when I left (after 2 of the 3 second round games were
done), it looked like:

-Peter Bakija 1GW/3VP Tzimisce toolbox w/Laibon
-Peter Kapsalis 1GW/3VP Fishtari with guns and bleed
-Ruben Feldman 1GW/3VP !Brujah Guns Guns Guns!
-Selen 1GW/3+VP Akunanse bleedy permanents
-James Willhelm 1GW/3VP Brujah fighty Princes
-Andrew Sackett 2VP Tupdog Vote
-James Burns 1VP Ventrue Law Firm
-Ben Kalb 1VP Akunanse Breed Boon
-Cory 1VP? Something with OBF/DOM (Malkavians?)
-Sonam 0? Giovanni Power Bleed
-James Rodriguez ? Assamite Black Hand
-Kim 0VP? Nosferatu Cock Robin Enkil Cog

There was a 13th player who dropped after the first round. The last game
had, I think, still Selen, Sonam, and Rodriguez playing when I left. So
it is possible that Selen ended up with 2GW, or it is possible that
someone else got an extra GW. I'm sure it will all become clear when
someone posts actual results. As noted, I had to take off, so we just
assumed that I had the fewest TPs

In any case, it was a fun, wacky tournament in a nice store--The Unknown
in Scranton. Lots of good comics and games to buy, and reasonable gaming
space.

Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"
-Gaff

j-train

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:44:49 PM11/7/09
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> p...@lightlink.comhttp://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

>
> "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"
> -Gaff

Wow, Peter I just got home and haven't had to time to even type up the
results.

First off I would like to thank everyone that showed up. I only heard
from the Ithaca group before the event,but in the end we got 12
people.
3 from Ithaca, 2 from Binghamton area, 6 from NYC and me. Noone from
Philadelphia representing.

As for my deck it was alot of Ventrure Princes of group 1/2 so I could
keep vote lock down and then bruise bleed with governed and dawn ops
to drop people.

Some of the fun things that happened during the event, In round 1 I
was ousted in under 15 minutes due to the Tupdogs being my pred who
then proceeded to vote me out of the game before I could mount any
type of defense. I think in turn 2 he voted me out for 10 pool. In the
2nd round that Tupdog deck was shut down quickly and was the first to
be ousted.

Peter Kapsalis actually equipped with the Codex and then proceeded to
bleed with it for that Ishtarri who had the equipment, didn't have
Presence.

Anyways to finish your description for the final Peter,
The finals was:
James Willhelm==>Selen==>Ruben Feldman==>Peter Kapsalis==>James
Rodriguez

In the finals Peter was the first to be ousted quickly followed by
Selen. It then took almost another 1 hr or so before James Rodriguez
was ousted by Ruben who quickly was able to get James Willhelm with
the help of alot of guns and add strikes.

Ruben played with Motivated by Gehenna.
Clan: Brujah Antitribu
Key Minion: Sarah Brando

He will mail me the deck list for all you deck nuts out there so I can
post it for people.

As for Unknown they are also going to be moving to a larger location
in a few months so therefore I we can have more room for even more
people to play.

Peter D Bakija

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:11:23 PM11/7/09
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j-train <jtrai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, Peter I just got home and haven't had to time to even type up the
> results.

Oh, ya know, I'm enthusiastic about the information dispersal. Feel free
to post an actual good information report :-)

> Some of the fun things that happened during the event, In round 1 I
> was ousted in under 15 minutes due to the Tupdogs being my pred who
> then proceeded to vote me out of the game before I could mount any
> type of defense. I think in turn 2 he voted me out for 10 pool. In the
> 2nd round that Tupdog deck was shut down quickly and was the first to
> be ousted.

Yeah. That's Sackett. Sometimes he works. Sometimes not.

> Anyways to finish your description for the final Peter,
> The finals was:
> James Willhelm==>Selen==>Ruben Feldman==>Peter Kapsalis==>James
> Rodriguez

So presumably, James R won the last, unfinished game, correct? So there
were 6 separate folks with GWs, and so my dropping out didn't impact
much. Good, good.

> As for Unknown they are also going to be moving to a larger location
> in a few months so therefore I we can have more room for even more
> people to play.

Oh, cool. It was a nice location, and totally fun. Scranton is a very
solid mid point location--it is 2 hours from Ithaca *and* NYC, so
hopefully, we can have another good tournament next year some time.

Thanks for running again!

Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com

echia...@yahoo.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:17:58 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 7:44 pm, j-train <jtrain9...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In the finals Peter was the first to be ousted quickly followed by
> Selen. It then took almost another 1 hr or so before James Rodriguez
> was ousted by Ruben who quickly was able to get James Willhelm with
> the help of alot of guns and add strikes.
>
> Ruben played with Motivated by Gehenna.
> Clan: Brujah Antitribu
> Key Minion: Sarah Brando


Congratulations to Ruben, and especially the Brujah Antitribu.
Combined with the !Brujah win in Australia, they are now tied for the
lead (with 2 wins) with the Guruhi. I am quite thrilled - I've always
had a soft spot for the Brujah Antitribu (who have often been
neglected in the past). I'm a bit surprised that there's certainly a
surge of interest in playing them, but I'm certainly not complaining.
Of the major Camarilla/Independent/Sabbat clans, they are one of the
few that could actually use a significant boost (they still don't even
have a Cardinal, they only have one Black Hand vampire in Group 5, and
their clan card selection is particularly weak). The question is
whether they will be able to compete with the Guruhi's inherent Laibon
advantage....

j-train

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:35:08 AM11/8/09
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> Congratulations to Ruben, and especially the Brujah Antitribu.
> Combined with the !Brujah win in Australia, they are now tied for the
> lead (with 2 wins) with the Guruhi. I am quite thrilled - I've always
> had a soft spot for the Brujah Antitribu (who have often been
> neglected in the past). I'm a bit surprised that there's certainly a
> surge of interest in playing them, but I'm certainly not complaining.
> Of the major Camarilla/Independent/Sabbat clans, they are one of the
> few that could actually use a significant boost (they still don't even
> have a Cardinal, they only have one Black Hand vampire in Group 5, and
> their clan card selection is particularly weak). The question is
> whether they will be able to compete with the Guruhi's inherent Laibon
> advantage....

Yeah, I was surprised as well to see them in play. As for the Laibon
card advantage I am sure that is helping in some situations ,but
against alot of guns not so much.

Peter D Bakija

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:46:05 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 3:35 am, j-train <jtrain9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I was surprised as well to see them in play. As for the Laibon
> card advantage I am sure that is helping in some situations ,but
> against alot of guns not so much.

See, the !Brujah have a really good weenie CEL crypt to use, and with
the Motivated by Gehenna giving them perma-rush, you can make a very
solid weenie CEL gun deck and not need to include rush cards. The !
Brujah are much better at that then the Brujah are, so !Brujah it is.

At the Ithaca storyline, we had two virtually identical Fishtari gun
decks that were very effective as well. The trick was to go fetch a
Celerity skill card when you brought the Fishtari into play.

-Peter

Dasein

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:11:06 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 9, 5:46 am, Peter D Bakija <p...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 3:35 am, j-train <jtrain9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I was surprised as well to see them in play. As for the Laibon
> > card advantage I am sure that is helping in some situations ,but
> > against alot of guns not so much.
>
> See, the !Brujah have a really good weenie CEL crypt to use, and with
> the Motivated by Gehenna giving them perma-rush, you can make a very
> solid weenie CEL gun deck and not need to include rush cards. The !
> Brujah are much better at that then the Brujah are, so !Brujah it is.
>

Yep this is true. My storyline winning deck was actually CEL pot flung
junk. Victor Tolliver, Rigby, etc.
I'll post it in the next day or two.

Ruben Feldman

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:47:42 AM11/9/09
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Here's a summary of what happened to me during the storyline:

Peter B -> Peter K -> me -> Sonam
Table 1: my prey rescued my predator, putting him in a position to
oust me. I therefore offered him the table for 1 point. I killed my
prey destroyed all but one vampires on my next prey and let my
predator take the rest.

Peter K: 1gw3v[
Me: 1vp

Cory-> Andrew -> me-> James W
Table 2: My Predator vote quite a few damage votes on me, but my
tension and a few back rushes along with my crosstable's bleed for 5
ousted him. I then managed , after a few disasters, to overpower my
prey in combat and ousted him torporing a famous Anvil. By then, Cory
still had not drawn enough oust to take me out and so I won the duel.

me:1gw3vp
Cory: 1vp

James W -> Selen -> me -> Peter K -> James R
Final: My Predator starts very aggressive, with her first 4 actions
being bleed for 2 or 3. I backrush twice - my prey rescues twice, but
she loses her blood. She influences/equips down to 8, takes a parity
from her predator and is ousted. In the meantime, I do a few pool
damage to my prey with bleeds/tension and oust him with a sneaky bleed
for 3 at 1 stealth! Left with three players, I had low blood and an
exhausted hand (specifically not enough dodges) and so could not
handle my new prey in combat, and my predator had lots of blood, New
carthage and three titled vampires. After a few turns of trying to
stay alive, i swarm my prey (and use preternatural evasion to survive
twice!) and win the duel once James W is out of maneuvers.

Crypt[12]
2x Julian Sanders
1x Rigby
1x Dodd
2x Victor Tolliver
2x Sarah Brando
1x Frederick the Weak
2x Antoinette DuChamp
1x Nik

Library[80]
Master[17]
4x Blood Doll
3x Parthenon
1x Powerbase Zurich
1x Information Highway
2x Dreams of the Shpinx
2x Archon Investigation

Action[6]
3x Public Trust
3x Zillah's Tears

Event[2]
1x Anthelios
1x Narrow Minds

Modifiers[4]
2x Aire of Ellation
2x Resist Earth's grasp

Reaction[2]
2x Delaying Tactics

Equipment[8]
8x .44 Magnum

Combat[41]
11x Psyche!
7x Pursuit
3x Blur
6x Taste
8x Concealed Weapon
2x Preternatural Evasion
4x Side Strike

Ruben Feldman

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:26:11 AM11/9/09
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Also had:
1x Gang Territory
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Fame
1x Powerbase Zurich

missing from the above decklist for some reason

brandonsantacruz

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:14:54 PM11/9/09
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Way to bring the combat to the New Yorkers! GJ on the win. This is an
interesting break from your normal tournament decks.

Brandon

Peter D Bakija

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:33:34 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 12:14 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Way to bring the combat to the New Yorkers!

Uh, wha? New York is so far from not fighty (well, New York City
certainly is. As is Ithaca...) that the light from someone needing to
bring combat to New York would take a billion years to reach it.

-Peter

Alf

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:54:07 AM11/10/09
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Which makes you master section 16 cards, or PB:Zurich would be
doubled ..

Master[17]
4x Blood Doll
3x Parthenon
1x Powerbase Zurich
1x Information Highway
2x Dreams of the Shpinx
2x Archon Investigation

1x Gang Territory
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Fame

How come you added the Parthenon/Anthelios module to Cel/Gun?
I guess it must help to avoid master jam and recycle key masters like
Fame/AI ...
Interesting twist.

Congrats.
-Alf

Ruben Feldman

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:10:51 AM11/10/09
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Yeah, I just thought i had a few slots available since i didnt need
any rushes. Turned out it would have been better without it all. Also
AI was really useless as usual, only jamming me.I thought it would be
especially useful because of the codex but it really wasnt.

Peter D Bakija

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Ruben Feldman <fru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I just thought i had a few slots available since i didnt need
> any rushes.

Heh--In the Ithaca storyline, both CEL weenie gun decks got occasionally
hosed due to underrepresented Rush actions (planning on relying on the
motivation) and then having trouble getting the edge due to bleed
reduction and bounce. Not a lot, but once and a while, and I ended up
winning the tournament 'cause the one turn my predator really needed to
rush me, he had no rush actions, and couldn't get the edge as I had
reduction in my hand. Saving my bacon.

I also wonder if the master selection of 14 master +3 Parthenon wouldn't
just be better as 14 masters and 3 more combat cards in this particular
deck. I mean, yeah, the instant Fame cycling with Anthelios is strong,
but with only 1 Anthelios, I wonder how often it came up.

> Turned out it would have been better without it all. Also
> AI was really useless as usual, only jamming me.I thought it would be
> especially useful because of the codex but it really wasnt.

I dunno--there were a few bleedzookas at the event--Cory and Sonam both
had hard hitting bleeds. And the Codex, while not hugely relevant, was
still some kind of an issue. Did you ever get to use it as the Rush
deck? Kill everyone and then bleed for 4 a few times?

Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com

Ruben Feldman

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:52:00 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 9:03 am, Peter D Bakija <p...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> In article
> <6f48f7a4-6fcc-4800-9b17-0ac0737c7...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

>  RubenFeldman <frub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I just thought i had a few slots available since i didnt need
> > any rushes.
>
> Heh--In the Ithaca storyline, both CEL weenie gun decks got occasionally
> hosed due to underrepresented Rush actions (planning on relying on the
> motivation) and then having trouble getting the edge due to bleed
> reduction and bounce. Not a lot, but once and a while, and I ended up
> winning the tournament 'cause the one turn my predator really needed to
> rush me, he had no rush actions, and couldn't get the edge as I had
> reduction in my hand. Saving my bacon.
>
> I also wonder if the master selection of 14 master +3 Parthenon wouldn't
> just be better as 14 masters and 3 more combat cards in this particular
> deck. I mean, yeah, the instant Fame cycling with Anthelios is strong,
> but with only 1 Anthelios, I wonder how often it came up.
>
> > Turned out it would have been better without it all. Also
> > AI was really useless as usual, only jamming me.I thought it would be
> > especially useful because of the codex but it really wasnt.
>
> I dunno--there were a few bleedzookas at the event--Cory and Sonam both
> had hard hitting bleeds. And the Codex, while not hugely relevant, was
> still some kind of an issue. Did you ever get to use it as the Rush
> deck? Kill everyone and then bleed for 4 a few times?
>
There were, but the defense of the deck is to torpor dangerous
minions, therefore AI was useless. Playing defensively, a dude with
PRE still has to be removed even if i had AI in my hand since he could
still bleed for 3, force me to play AI (3 pool + master), etc.
I hate AI and playing it that day confirmed why again.

Peter D Bakija

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:13:38 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 3:52 pm, Ruben Feldman <frub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There were, but the defense of the deck is to torpor dangerous
> minions, therefore AI was useless.

Oh, sure. But you can't torporize everyone. Had the preliminary games
been 5P instead of 4P, the Archon Investigarion becomes more useful--
you kill your predator, and then your bleedzooka grandpredator comes
for you. But in a 4P game, yeah, much less likely to work to your
advantage.

> I hate AI and playing it that day confirmed why again.

Heh. I dunno--having one in a deck that can't bounce tends to pay off
reasonably often, in my experience.

-Peter

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