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Ben Swainbank

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Aug 11, 2010, 10:37:28 PM8/11/10
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Here is the tale of the rise of the Bahari, the efforts of the
loyalists to stand against the rising darkness, and the fate of the
bloodlines.

http://www.vtesstorylines.com/PDFs/Storyline_BL_Aftermath.pdf

-Ben Swainbank
VTES Storyline Coordinator
http://www.vtesstorylines.com

Sudden Reversal

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Aug 12, 2010, 2:43:39 AM8/12/10
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Here's hoping it is not really, "The End".

Satrapa

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Aug 12, 2010, 6:33:35 AM8/12/10
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I hate what you did with this storyline. There was only clues (no
statement) that Bahari are Infernalists (they could also be kind of
salvation for the Infernalists according to other clues). So people
often just took what was stronger in this storyline because they
wanted simply to win (so for me in large percentage it was one big set
up).
I hate that you made Kiasyd bunch of totalitarian assholes that punish
other opinions with death (it neither suit scholar bloodline nor
changeling one and they are both and not bunch of UFO drivers).
I'm glad that you did not resurrected dead vampires like you did
earlier with Smiling Jack (It would be shame to read about members of
warrior cast of the Salubri joining Baali).
I like about aftermath 1 thing - how you explained Karsh ADV flaw.

I also hope like Sudden Reversal that it is not the end of this card
game.

Blooded Sand

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Aug 12, 2010, 7:16:11 AM8/12/10
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When i open this using Google Chrome it says the document contains
errors...

LSJ

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Aug 12, 2010, 8:19:04 AM8/12/10
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Set Chrome to download it and open it with Adobe Acrobat.

Blooded Sand

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Aug 12, 2010, 8:33:20 AM8/12/10
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Is working now.
Thanks

Not really liking this.

Is there ever gonna be a balanced storyline, or is they just a way to
achieve a predefined agenda?
Much discussion has been had about this and previous storylines'
inability to present a balanced play style between factions. If it is
too hard to balance 2 factions, would 3 not be better?

And why the massive lusting after infernalism? it is getting rather
boring now...

Ben Swainbank

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Aug 12, 2010, 11:50:43 AM8/12/10
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On Aug 12, 6:33 am, Satrapa <jedrzej.komorow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There was only clues (no statement) that Bahari are Infernalists

The Wold of Darkness contains many more clues than statements.
Although, Rev. Adams doesn't really mince words in the BL Intro.

> (they could also be kind of salvation for the Infernalists according to other clues).

Indeed. The outcome might depend on who was dominant within the
faction.

>So people often just took what was stronger in this storyline because they
> wanted simply to win

Nergal might agree with you there.

brandonsantacruz

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Aug 12, 2010, 4:15:37 PM8/12/10
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On Aug 11, 11:43 pm, Sudden Reversal <sudden.rever...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here's hoping it is not really, "The End".

If it's the end of VTES, how could the specter exist to tell about it?
White Wolf seems to enjoy toying with their fanbase, so hopefully this
is a prank. I did like how this "aftermath" was written to include
things like Anthelios, Shatter the Gates, Shattering Crescendo, Blood
Brothers w/Karsh, etc. Nice work writing it, I hope you didn't put
yourself out of a job, Ben(and us out of a game)!

Brandon

Satrapa

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Aug 12, 2010, 4:37:52 PM8/12/10
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On 12 Sie, 17:50, Ben Swainbank <vtesst...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 6:33 am, Satrapa <jedrzej.komorow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  There was only clues (no statement) that Bahari are Infernalists
>
> The Wold of Darkness contains many more clues than statements.
> Although, Rev. Adams doesn't really mince words in the BL Intro.
Being brought to justice seems for me as as statement of death when
Justicar comes for someone and still we saw Jack Drake in
storylines...
Statement was that Kiasyd are close to changelings and are scholars.
In this storyline they became like bunch of Nazis that burn books that
are not politically correct and kill those that oppose them in their
ranks. Participating in childish, noob satanist, bloody, gore ritual
(lot of killing, reverse reading of Bible) does not sound like neither
changeling style nor scholar style.
Rev. Adams looks for me like mumbling madman and fanatic. Milenium
Cultist was not bunch of good guys so It is at most hard to listen to
Rev Adams. For religious fanatics all who think otherwise are spawns
of hell. What is more M.C. suggested that he was just manipulated
somehow by Nergal and not that he is oracle in any way.

> > (they could also be kind of  salvation for the Infernalists according to other clues).
>
> Indeed. The outcome might depend on who was dominant within the
> faction.

It is not fight for found rising it is sect in more religious way than
Sabbat. What is more agreeing and participating in Baali bloody pit
rituals with lots of sacrifices including vampire sacrifice sounds
also like hard infernal statement.

> >So people often just took what was stronger in this storyline because they
> > wanted simply to win
>
> Nergal might agree with you there.

He might but is it good for the game and for the fluff? I don't think
so.

BTW. Real Nergal - singer from metal band Behemoth have leukemia.

DeathInABottle

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Aug 12, 2010, 5:30:13 PM8/12/10
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What's "Insallah"?

YY

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Aug 12, 2010, 7:54:29 PM8/12/10
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On Aug 13, 5:30 am, DeathInABottle <li...@uvic.ca> wrote:
> What's "Insallah"?

"God willing".
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_insallah

Cheers.

-YY

DeathInABottle

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Aug 12, 2010, 8:23:13 PM8/12/10
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Well, that explains why searching for "vampire insallah" didn't turn
much up.

Kevin M.

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Aug 13, 2010, 12:18:24 AM8/13/10
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Satrapa wrote:
> BTW.
> Real Nergal - singer from metal band Behemoth have leukemia.

No, it's just Daimonion.


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Blooded Sand

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Aug 13, 2010, 2:52:11 AM8/13/10
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On Aug 13, 6:18 am, "Kevin M." <youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
> Satrapa wrote:
> > BTW.
> > Real Nergal - singer from metal band Behemoth have leukemia.
>
> No, it's just Daimonion.

Even for you, Kevin, this is incredibly tactless, tasteless and just
plain horrible. Really, you feel good about making a joke that someone
has leukemia?
Grow up.

Kevin M.

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Aug 13, 2010, 8:40:38 AM8/13/10
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Blooded Sand wrote:

> "Kevin M." wrote:
>> Satrapa wrote:
>>> BTW.
>>> Real Nergal - singer from metal band Behemoth have leukemia.
>>
>> No, it's just Daimonion.
>
> Even for you, Kevin, this is incredibly tactless, tasteless and just
> plain horrible. Really, you feel good about making a joke that someone
> has leukemia?
> Grow up.

It's sad that that can't be taken for the joke that it is. Truly sad.

Blooded Sand

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Aug 13, 2010, 9:11:17 AM8/13/10
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On Aug 13, 2:40 pm, "Kevin M." <youw...@imaspammer.org> wrote:
> Blooded Sand wrote:
> > "Kevin M." wrote:
> >> Satrapa wrote:
> >>> BTW.
> >>> Real Nergal - singer from metal band Behemoth have leukemia.
>
> >> No, it's just Daimonion.
>
> > Even for you, Kevin, this is incredibly tactless, tasteless and just
> > plain horrible. Really, you feel good about making a joke that someone
> > has leukemia?
> > Grow up.
>
> It's sad that that can't be taken for the joke that it is.  Truly sad.

It is taken as a joke, just a terribly tasteless and pathetic one.
Really.
Certain things require something called tact, try to understand...

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