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Ralf Lammert

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Nov 19, 2008, 12:33:51 PM11/19/08
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The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTradition

Regards, Ralf
====================
http://extrala.blogspot.com

The Lasombra

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Nov 19, 2008, 1:02:43 PM11/19/08
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On Nov 19, 12:33 pm, Ralf Lammert <ralf.lamm...@gmx.de> wrote:
> The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:

> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTrad...

Editing needed.

Two sentences need to be removed, under the Keepers of Tradition red
line.

"White Wolf's eleventh expansion for Vampire: The Eternal Struggle is
a stand-alone base set. It is called Third Edition (after the
Camarilla Edition, which is reckoned as the second edition). "

This page could use an update too:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Cards

brandons...@yahoo.com

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Nov 19, 2008, 4:08:30 PM11/19/08
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On Nov 19, 9:33 am, Ralf Lammert <ralf.lamm...@gmx.de> wrote:
> The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:
>
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTrad...
>
> Regards, Ralf
> ====================http://extrala.blogspot.com

Woo!

Sincerely,
Brandon

The Lasombra

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Nov 19, 2008, 6:27:54 PM11/19/08
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:51 +0100 (CET), Ralf Lammert wrote:

>The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:
>
>http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTradition

Hiram "Hide" DeVries was not printed in the boosters.

http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/images/CardKoT05.jpg

The only Ventrue printed in boosters were:

Ventrue - Beth Malcolm
Ventrue - Bulscu
Ventrue - Emily Carson
Ventrue - Graham Gottesman
Ventrue - Jack Tredegar
Ventrue - Joseph DiGiaccomo
Ventrue - Lodin (Olaf Holte)
Ventrue - Mary Anne Blaire
Ventrue - Pedrag Hasek
Ventrue - Portia
Ventrue - Victor Donaldson

The only Ventrue printed in starters were:

Hardestadt
Gustav Breidenstein
Gotsdam, The Tired Warrior
Johannes Castelein
Joao Bile
Jackson Asher

When should we expect Hiram to make an appearance?


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

Your best online source for information about V:TES.
Now also featuring individual card sales and sales
of booster and starter box displays.

The Lasombra

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Nov 19, 2008, 6:43:34 PM11/19/08
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:51 +0100 (CET), Ralf Lammert
<ralf.l...@gmx.de> wrote:

>The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:
>
>http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTradition

There are 127 vampires in the list.

24 in starters, 100 in boosters.

When will the other 3 appear?

Gwendolyn Fleming Toreador
Hiram "Hide" DeVries Ventrue
Osric Vladislav Malkavian

bwross

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Nov 19, 2008, 6:45:20 PM11/19/08
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A little thing I've noticed: I believe Soak should be listed as KoT:C/
PV6 (not PV4... I'm assuming that these are the two missing cards from
that precon (based on The Lasombra's list), the other precons added up
correctly to 89).

Brent Ross

LSJ

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Nov 19, 2008, 7:07:06 PM11/19/08
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The Lasombra wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:33:51 +0100 (CET), Ralf Lammert wrote:
>
>> The preview/postview/checklist webpage is available on the WW website:
>>
>> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=Checklist_KeepersOfTradition
>
> Hiram "Hide" DeVries was not printed in the boosters.
>
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/images/CardKoT05.jpg

Figures. My apologies. He ended up being cut (since, as you can see, the vampire
set is full). But not before the art was done. And, as Lady Luck does not enjoy
my company, I chose him for a preview.

chedcan

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Nov 19, 2008, 7:48:51 PM11/19/08
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It was also announced that there would be 20 new rare/uncommon/common

When I count the cards listed on the checklist I add up to 16/19/17

Did I loose track scrolling through the column or are my figures good?
(I don't mind either way it's just that I want to be sure not to miss
any of the new cards on my card-hunt)

LSJ

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Nov 19, 2008, 8:51:38 PM11/19/08
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Your figures are correct. Sorry for the earlier misinformation.

Tetragrammaton

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Nov 20, 2008, 2:00:32 AM11/20/08
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Does that means that the KoT set was never intended to be of 60 new rares
(20 c 20 u 20 r, as announced since months), or those new cards are missing
just out of an printing error ?

Emiliano, NC Italy


Tetragrammaton

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Nov 20, 2008, 2:01:26 AM11/20/08
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Tetragrammaton wrote:
> LSJ wrote:
>> chedcan wrote:
>>> It was also announced that there would be 20 new
>>> rare/uncommon/common When I count the cards listed on the checklist I
>>> add up to 16/19/17
>>>
>>> Did I loose track scrolling through the column or are my figures
>>> good? (I don't mind either way it's just that I want to be sure not
>>> to miss any of the new cards on my card-hunt)
>>
>> Your figures are correct. Sorry for the earlier misinformation.
>
> Does that means that the KoT set was never intended to be of 60 new
> rares

Sorry, i intend 60 new "cards" here


xcver

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Nov 20, 2008, 6:08:25 AM11/20/08
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Bringing a preview up 2 days before the release weekend showing a card
that isn't even in the set (when it's already shipped). Delivery got
delayed and still there are wrong rules in the starters and 2
uncommons dissappeared form the set (no hunting ground for you evil
toreador) and the number of new cards is not the same as announced.

WW really needs some serious Quality Assurance going...

LSJ

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Nov 20, 2008, 6:34:26 AM11/20/08
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The former, mostly. One new uncommon was erroneously omitted from the uncommon
sheet, as described on the preview page. But the original 20/20/20 figure was
the main error; no printing error involved there. The figure was initially set
to be 15/15/15, but as I was developing the cards, I found I wanted a few more
in there so I tried to stretch it to 20/20/20. I didn't reach that goal, but the
figure leaped from my tongue when I was asked about the number of new cards.

bwross

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Nov 20, 2008, 7:38:14 PM11/20/08
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On Nov 19, 7:48 pm, chedcan <c_chen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I count the cards listed on the checklist I add up to 16/19/17

However, when you count by the card listings, it's 16/17/19. I'm
assuming that Charismatic Aura and Old Friends are correctly
identified on the set list as uncommon (instead of common like they
appear in the big card listing).

Brent Ross

The Lasombra

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Nov 20, 2008, 8:04:28 PM11/20/08
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:38:14 -0800 (PST), bwross wrote:

>On Nov 19, 7:48 pm, chedcan wrote:
>> When I count the cards listed on the checklist I add up to 16/19/17

>However, when you count by the card listings, it's 16/17/19. I'm
>assuming that Charismatic Aura and Old Friends are correctly
>identified on the set list as uncommon (instead of common like they
>appear in the big card listing).

New rares - 16

Arcane Appraiser
Enkil Cog
Ephor
Monastery of Shadows
New Carthage
Nocturn Theater
Ponticulus
Scourge of the Enochians
Soul Scan
Tainted Spring
Target Retainer
Touch of Clarity
Veles' Hunt
Waiting Game
Warsaw Station
White Nights Massacre


New uncommons - 19

Becoming, The
Blood of Sandman
Charismatic Aura
Childling Muse
Coterie Tactics
Dark Influences
Dark Mirror of the Mind
Heroic Might
Kevlar Vest
Leech
Light Intensifying Goggles
Old Friends
Papillon
Perfect Paragon
Persona Non Grata
Repair the Undead Flesh
Scourge
Still the Mortal Flesh
Villein


New commons - 17

Agate Talisman
Ashur Tablets
Deep Song
Eyes of Argus
Eyes of the Beast
Fleetness
Force of Personality
Horseshoes
Loki's Gift
Mouthpiece
Neonate Breach
No Trace
Oath, The
Rego Motus
Steadfastness
Torrent
Wrong and Crosswise

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