LSJ - Mictlantecuhtli + Talbot's + Masochism ...
technobabble66
Happysaw, is the 3 damage from talbot's considered to supply 3
counters onto Masochism?
Possibly a similar question for Ecstatic Agony (& black gloves, etc),
Revelation of Wrath, etc ... ie: for these type of cards, when is the
applicable damage dealt considered successful? When the strike is
made, or when the damage is taken (and healed) by the vampire (or is
it card-specific)?
Thanks
Mictlantecuhtli
Gangrel
Capacity: 10
Group: 5
Independent: Mictlantecuhtli is immune to damage from weapons. When he
commits diablerie, each of your other ready vampires gains 1 blood
from the blood bank. +1 strength.
Talbot's Chainsaw
Equipment
Unique weapon.
Strike: 3 damage. If bearer is ready during your untap phase, a ready
minion you control takes 3 unpreventable damage. Bearer cannot hunt.
Bearer may enter combat with a minion controlled by another Methuselah
as a +1 stealth (D) action. Bearer gets a press, only usable to
continue combat on the first round, and may prevent up to 1 damage
each combat.
Masochism
Action
Fortitude
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting vampire. Whenever damage is successfully
inflicted on this vampire, put 1 rush counter on this card for each
point of damage. Remove rush counters in excess of the vampire's
capacity. Whenever this vampire plays a card, you may remove X rush
counters from this card to reduce that card's blood cost by X.
As above, but put an additional rush counter on this card at the end
of any round of combat in which this vampire takes damage.
Ecstatic Agony
Action
Auspex
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on this acting vampire. Each round of combat, this
vampire gets +X strength, where X is the amount of damage successfully
inflicted on this vampire in the previous round of this combat.
As above, and once per combat, this vampire may press to continue
combat if any damage has been successfully inflicted on him or her in
the current round.
technobabble66
LSJ
> If Mictlantecuhtli plays Masochism on himself and equips with Talbot's
> Happysaw, is the 3 damage from talbot's considered to supply 3
> counters onto Masochism?
No.
Damage inflicted on a minion (or retainer) who is immune to that
damage is
not considered to be successfully inflicted.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/dd46561b98c56130
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/bc5d88b87e0bd6cc
> Possibly a similar question for Ecstatic Agony (& black gloves, etc),
> Revelation of Wrath, etc ... ie: for these type of cards, when is the
> applicable damage dealt considered successful? When the strike is
> made, or when the damage is taken (and healed) by the vampire (or is
> it card-specific)?
Damage is successfully inflicted when it is applied and not prevented
(or ignored).
technobabble66
Thanks anyway!