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Pat

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Mar 31, 2006, 3:38:36 PM3/31/06
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Just to confirm something that came up in a JOL game... the oldest Laibon of
the appropriate clan (Eze, in this case) can play Kholo, even if he's
already titled, then he'd become the Kholo and his prior title would become
inert.

Correct?

TIA,
Pat


LSJ

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Mar 31, 2006, 3:49:15 PM3/31/06
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He'd lose his old title completely, but otherwise correct.

Blooded Sand

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Mar 31, 2006, 8:51:44 PM3/31/06
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Conversely, Inikio capacity 9, and Nangila were are both in play. iniko
is the kholo. takes the overseer action, becoming a magaji. does the
kholo title fall away or does nangila become the new kholo?

Fabio 'Sooner' Macedo

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Mar 31, 2006, 8:59:49 PM3/31/06
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Blooded Sand escreveu:

> Conversely, Inikio capacity 9, and Nangila were are both in play. iniko
> is the kholo. takes the overseer action, becoming a magaji. does the
> kholo title fall away or does nangila become the new kholo?

No, because Nangila is not older, as the card requires for the moving
bit in its text.

It would work if Eze is along with Iniko as a Kholo and Eze lost the
Magaji title somewhat.

LSJ

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Mar 31, 2006, 9:00:33 PM3/31/06
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It falls away. The title is lost when the new title is received, and
the title card is burned when the title is lost.
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec10
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec11

Pat

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Apr 1, 2006, 1:37:38 PM4/1/06
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If Eze later loses the Kholo (say by being sent to torpor, forcing the
Kholo to popsover to an untitled ready Guruhi), he still has a vote
from his card text. (Correct?)

Does this single vote mean that he's titled, a la an independent vamp
with the generic "1 vote" title?

TIA,
Pat

gpett...@gmail.com

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Apr 1, 2006, 1:52:00 PM4/1/06
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Pat wrote:
> If Eze later loses the Kholo (say by being sent to torpor, forcing the
> Kholo to popsover to an untitled ready Guruhi), he still has a vote
> from his card text. (Correct?)
>
> Does this single vote mean that he's titled, a la an independent vamp
> with the generic "1 vote" title?
>

No. He has "an additional vote", which has never been the same thing as
"1 vote".

James Coupe

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Apr 1, 2006, 4:15:31 PM4/1/06
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In message <1143917520.3...@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"gpett...@gmail.com" <gpett...@gmail.com> writes:
>Pat wrote:
<Eze>

>> Does this single vote mean that he's titled, a la an independent vamp
>> with the generic "1 vote" title?
>>
>
>No. He has "an additional vote", which has never been the same thing as
>"1 vote".

Specifically, if the "1 additional vote" counted as a title, it would
mean that by default he was Magaji AND the 1 vote title. Which would
mean two titles. Which isn't allowed.

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