(LSJ) Impulse and passing on block attempts

[floppyzedolfin]

Hi,
This one is a bit more realistic than the others.

5 players at the table.
A is acting, the action is a bleed.
B declines to block ( == passes on the impulse).

Can A play Conditioning (or any other card) before E gets to declare a
block attempt / declines to block ?

Thanks,
Pascal.

[henrik]

I'd say no. Passing doesn't give the impulse to the acting player, it
should pass it over to C (assuming xe exists in the game).

[LSJ]

Correct*

[6.2.2.1]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969

* Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be
assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork
attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play
Conditioning.

[salem]

LSJ wrote:

Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the
impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to
block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-
cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072

although reading the thread surrounding that makes me wonder if one
methuselah declining to block isn't an effect, but _all_ methuselahs
declining sums to an event. or something.

--
salem

[Jozxyqk]

salem <kell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > [6.2.2.1]
> > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-
> cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969
> >
> > * Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be
> > assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork
> > attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play
> > Conditioning.

> Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the
> impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to
> block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs.

> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-
> cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072

The way I understand it, it depends on how the acting methuselah called for
blocks.
If you're taking a D action at one other player and you ask "Do you block?"
then his answer of "no" will pass the impulse back to you.
But if you do the proper thing and ask "Are there any blocks?" then everyone
gets a chance to answer before you play an effect.

I could be wrong.
But even if I'm wrong, it's best to do the second phrasing if there is any
AUS, SPI, or vamps with such abilities on the table.

[LSJ]

On Jul 30, 9:24 am, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:

> salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > [6.2.2.1]
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-
> > cards.jyhad/msg/9e55f8a861d8b969
>
> > > * Under the assumption that C and D also pass, which seems to be
> > > assumed. Naturally, if C or D play some effect (including "Dork
> > > attempts to block"), the impulse goes back to A who may then play
> > > Conditioning.
> > Are you sure? I thought 'declining to block' was an effect, and thus the
> > impulse should indeed pass back to the Acting methuselah after B declines to
> > block, as A always get the impulse back any time an effect occurs.
> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-
> > cards.jyhad/msg/2e822d550cc08072
>
> The way I understand it, it depends on how the acting methuselah called for
> blocks.
> If you're taking a D action at one other player and you ask "Do you block?"
> then his answer of "no" will pass the impulse back to you.

No. "I don't block" is just another word for "pass".

See the rulebook section and the URL linked in my initial reply.

> But if you do the proper thing and ask "Are there any blocks?" then everyone
> gets a chance to answer before you play an effect.

You don't get the choice of selecting which sequence rule to you: you
always use the proper on.

> I could be wrong.
> But even if I'm wrong, it's best to do the second phrasing if there is any
> AUS, SPI, or vamps with such abilities on the table.

Correct. And at all other times as well.