Rules Query Re: Concealed Weapon + Bundi + Hand Damage Specials
swamplor
than 2 pool or inflict (with a regular strike) aggravated damage or
more than 3 damage."
How much information does the card take into account when determining
what equipment is legal?
Most specifically, I'd like to know if I can CW out a Bundi on a guy
with +2 strength or aggravated hand damage, or Jaroslav Pascek.
More generally, what does the card take into account and what doesn't
it? Can black cat conceal out weapons with a printed cost of 3,
because of her special? Does an in-play Mass Reality affect anything?
-Steve Wampler
Blooded Sand
> Concealed Weapon says you equip with a weapon that "cannot cost more
> than 2 pool or inflict (with a regular strike) aggravated damage or
> more than 3 damage."
>
> How much information does the card take into account when determining
> what equipment is legal?
about how it interacts with any in game effects
>
> Most specifically, I'd like to know if I can CW out a Bundi on a guy
> with +2 strength or aggravated hand damage, or Jaroslav Pascek.
>
> More generally, what does the card take into account and what doesn't
> it? Can black cat conceal out weapons with a printed cost of 3,
> because of her special? Does an in-play Mass Reality affect anything?
See above. No. No
>
> -Steve Wampler
The Lasombra
>Concealed Weapon says you equip with a weapon that "cannot cost more
>than 2 pool or inflict (with a regular strike) aggravated damage or
>more than 3 damage."
>How much information does the card take into account when determining
>what equipment is legal?
"(with a regular strike)" is the key.
>Most specifically, I'd like to know if I can CW out a Bundi on a guy
>with +2 strength or aggravated hand damage, or Jaroslav Pascek.
You can, yes.
>More generally, what does the card take into account and what doesn't
>it?
"(with a regular strike)" a normal minion has 1 strength. The damage
done by a normal minion against a normal opponent.
>an black cat conceal out weapons with a printed cost of 3,
>because of her special?
Yes.
>Does an in-play Mass Reality affect anything?
No.
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The Lasombra
>> More generally, what does the card take into account and what doesn't
>> it? =A0Can black cat conceal out weapons with a printed cost of 3,
>> because of her special? =A0Does an in-play Mass Reality affect anything?
>See above. No. No
Black Cat is good to go.
See also:
LSJ 25 Mar 2003
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/d2fa502604ada011
Black Cat: "Equipping Black Cat costs 1 less pool"
No "action" requirement - any equipping will be affected by the
special.
Black Cat can use Concealed Weapon to equip with a Gas-Powered
Chainsaw for free, or can use Concealed Weapon to equip with a Combat
Shotgun for 2 pool.
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Juggernaut1981
only...
1) Is the weapon unique? Yes = can't use CW
2) Does the weapon itself deal agg (e.g Sengir Dagger) ? Yes = can't
use CW
3) Does the weapon deal more than 3 damage by itself? Yes = can't use
CW
So Jaroslav can CW a Bundi with 5 Mass Realities on the table because
Bundi's are:
1) not unique
2) do not deal base agg
3) do not deal base 3+ damage
But Jaroslav can wail away with a Bundi for 2 + 2 (Jaroslav Text) + 5
(5xMass Reality) = 9...
Blooded Sand
Well, except that he would be wailing away for 14 Jara + bundi +5 mass
reality (MR = str +2 * 5)
James Coupe
>The baseline seems to be that Concealed Weapon checks for three things
>only...
>1) Is the weapon unique? Yes = can't use CW
>2) Does the weapon itself deal agg (e.g Sengir Dagger) ? Yes = can't
>use CW
>3) Does the weapon deal more than 3 damage by itself? Yes = can't use
>CW
It also checks the pool cost.
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