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Akantes

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Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008

Written by Jaakko Liemola

Greetings.

I'm Jaakko, the new writer of this newsletter. Also, I'm a relatively
new player, 3 years being an
overestimate I think. But nonetheless, I hope I have something to give
to you readers, about our
beloved clan Assamite, and hope to learn something myself in the
process of writing these newsletters.
I'll try to live up to those names, who have written this newsletter
before me, they've thought me
much of this game, and the clan Assamite.


I'll try to keep a concept of the month in these newsletters, and
provide a decklist for the concept.
Tested or untested.

First of these concepts, is a wallish bleeder. Quite surprising
wouldn't you say? Given the toys we
have access to, this isn't something to sneeze at. We just need a few
cards, and a few selected
vampires for the deck. Tom Duncan has also written a newsletter about
this, but I feel that so much
has changed that it's worth going back to. I recommend reading it,
it's the March 2006 newsletter.
Some things I say will propably overlap with him, and on some things
we propably disagree.
But, lets get started shall we? :)

First, we'll need this:

No Secrets of the Magaji

+1 stealth action. Requires a ready magaji.
Put this card on this magaji and untap him or her. The magaji with
this card gets +1 intercept when
attempting to block vampires. If this magaji is tapped, he or she may
attempt to block a vampire as
if untapped. Burn this card if this magaji attempts to block a vampire
but is not successful.
A vampire may have only one No Secrets From the Magaji.

What's not to like it? Untap, +1 intercept, and can block a vampire as
if untapped. You'll still need
a reaction module of some sort to help against those pesky allies
which you most likely will bump into
sooner or later. We'll get back to that later on. Several copies of it
are needed, so you'll get one
early on.


Secondly, we need this:

Olugbenga

When contesting a vampire, you may use the blood on that vampire or on
Olugbenga as pool to pay for
the contest. Olugbenga gets +1 intercept against bleed actions.
(The blood curse does not affect Olugbenga.)

Keyword here being the +1 intercept against bleed.
Given the +1 from the No Secrets, it's already 2 permanent intercept
against bleeds.
Against some decks, it's enough, and against some decks, it really
isn't. However, his secondary
ability regarding the contesting of vampires isn't likely to be of
help. Though it's happened to me
once, in an earlier version of this months deck, which goes through
it's third overhaul version.
But when it happens, the look on your preys face when you influence
Olugbenga out, is closely
priceless.


Another great card for this sort of a deck:

Powerbase: Tshwane

Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon.
Tap this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool
(this location is not tapped if that card is canceled as it is
played). Any Laibon may steal this
location for his or her controller as a (D) action

This card is golden. It works on every card you play, that costs a
pool, and in this deck, those
cards are many. You play a Direct Intervention on your predator's
blockfail? Tap Tshwane, and it's a
free DI. You play a Sport Bike for more intercept? Tap Tshwane, and
it's free. And so on and so on.
An early copy of it will save you much pool. Possibly even enough for
one more guy in your support
group to help on ousting. So it's worth of adding 2 copies of it in
the deck.


Other cards, that will help you getting on the intercept, are the
media outlets, and retainers.
Namely Shaman and Mr. Winthrop. I'm not too sold on raven spies in a
deck like this, even though
Olugbenga is the star. If you draw an early No Secrets, and a media
outlet or two, you're quite safe
from what I've experienced. And, you are running Direct Interventions
right?

So how are we going to be able to play all those poolcosting locations
and equipments? By gaining pool
of course. Luckily, Lords of the Night added the wonderful card
Haqim's Law: Leadership to our relief :)
Running a few copies of it should be enough of poolgain during the
course of a game to help you stay
healthy with the other poolgaining there's gonna be in the deck.
I'd run Blood Dolls in this sort of a deck, even though are going to
be running rather high amount of
masters. The tools of the trade are expensive in total costs, and you
are going to need all the pool
you can get to not get ousted before you oust.

Let's do a quick comparison, over 3 turns, BD will give you 3 pool, or
you can add a blood to the
vampire instantly, if you're in the dire need of it. Vessel, would
only give you 2 pool, and starts to
function only on the second turn. If you get 2 pool from the BD, or
push back 1 pool to prevent
something, you're already on the better side of Vessel.

Then there's Alamut, and with it comes votes, and with votes, comes
ConBoon, for the third part of bloating
engine. Not really much to explain here, most people should know how
that operates, and if they don't,
well, they're in for a surprise :)

Then for the ousting part.

At the basic, you'll need only 1 card for the boost on ousting.

Loss

Blood Cost: 1
[qui] (D) Burn an equipment or location on a minion controlled by your
predator or prey.
[QUI] (D) Bleed at +2 bleed.

And even the inferior is useful. Blow up the Heart of Nizchetus from
your prey, and just smile when
they wonder what that was. Or just bleed them away. Which is the
biggest part on the oustmethod of this
deck.

If you choose to run Alamut and ConBoons with it, there's another card
that can greatly help you on your
ousting:

Reckless Agitation

Blood Cost: 2
Requires an independent vampire with capacity above 4.
Allocate 6 points among two or more other Methuselahs. Successful
referendum means each Methuselah
burns 1 pool for each point assigned.

You just need an independent 5-cap vampire to call for RA. The
downside part of the vote is, that you
can't use it when there are only 2 players left, so at most I'd run 3
RA:s in here. If you feel that
you want to use votes when there's 2 players left, you can always go
with the KRC-route, and be happy for
shooting your prey for 3 and yourself for 1.
But at best, you're not running too many independents in the crypt for
this deck, so KRC might be a bit better
option, if even a little less useful, as all the vampires in your
crypt can call it by default. Unlike RA.

Now, earlier I said that you'll need a reaction package against the
evil allies, which you'll most likely
encounter. Warghouls and Shamblers with Khazar's Diary-decks are the
first that comes to my mind. You most
likely will want to block some of them. Instead of Black Sunrises,
which are good, no doubt about that,
On the Qui Vives and Fillips, which are easier to cycle, and won't
force you to block.
Another part of the reaction module can be Nest of Eagles, which
reduces bleed by 1, or, if it's a 5-cap or
smaller, it's reduces by 3. But, it might jam your hand, so 2-3 at
maximum, if even that.

So, here's the deck of the month:

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 5.08333
------------------------------------------------------------

4x Olugbenga 7 OBF QUI ani cel magaji Assamite:4
2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Kashan 7 CEL OBF QUI obt pre 1 vote Assamite:4
1x Hafsa, The Watcher 6 OBF QUI aus cel Assamite:5
1x Reza Fatir, The Da 6 CEL QUI obf pro Assamite:4
1x Vardar Vardarian 6 OBF QUI cel pre Assamite:4
1x Kamau Jafari 4 QUI obf Assamite:4
1x Alu 2 obf Assamite:5

/* One could always drop the converts, and double up on Kamau and
Vardar, as they are propably the most wanted
companions for Olugbenga to do their dirty work. I didn't include
Basir here, as I feel, that Alu is a much better
choice. Last game I played with this, Alu was the MVP */

Library [90 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------

Action [22]
5x Haqim's Law: Leadership
2x Khabar: Glory
8x Loss
7x No Secrets From the Magaji

/* Not much big surprises here, if I'd change anything, I'd most
likely drop both of the glories, and swap in
1 Loss, and 1 Haqim's */

Action Modifier [18]
5x Cloak the Gathering
5x Faceless Night
4x Lost in Crowds
4x Spying Mission

Action Modifier/Combat [5]
5x Swallowed by the Night

/* Well, what can you say, stealth gets you through. Swalloweds also
double up as maneuver in a bad case */

Combat [7]
4x Pursuit
3x Side Strike

Equipment [6]
3x .44 Magnum
1x Flak Jacket
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sport Bike

/* This should be defensive enough most of the time to avoid some
annoying combat. */

Event [1]
1x Narrow Minds

Master [18]
3x Alamut
1x Barrens, The
4x Blood Doll
1x Channel 10
3x Direct Intervention
1x Guardian Angel
1x Market Square
2x Powerbase: Tshwane
1x WMRH Talk Radio
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper

/* Yes, the masters are expensive. You'll be low on pool before you
even notice it. One could always drop
Wall Street, and add Powerbase: Montreal instead of it for some
poolgain.*/

Political Action [5]
3x Consanguineous Boon
2x Reckless Agitation

Reaction [6]
3x Nest of Eagles
3x On the Qui Vive

Retainer [2]
1x Mr. Winthrop
1x Shaman

*/ Quite basic the rest of it. 3 wakes just in case someone blows up
my No Secrets, and I really need to block
that action. */

This is actually a fun deck to play. You'll get to tinker some, and
bleed some forward. You should be able to get
2-3 vampires out, minimum. Depending on your hand, your turn should
consist of bleeding, or getting your
pool up.

It has it weaknesses, mainly the combat section. If you get a rushdeck
next to you, hope that his predator is putting
enough pressure on him, that you'll get free hands. Powerbleeding
Giovannis have also proven to be a problem.

Also, think twice before DI'ing or blocking something from your prey.
One game I blocked the wrong action from my
prey, and I lost my No Secrets. And, be patient. If you got a bad
hand, don't go all guns blazing and bleed your
prey if you know they will catch you.

Now, credit to where credits due. Originally I talked about this deck
with Oko, and he told he based his idea on
Matt Morgan's Akunanse Bleed n' Block.


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AcheronNi...@gmail.com

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Jul 31, 2008, 6:56:01 PM7/31/08
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like it, and the deck [despite personal distaste about .44 magnum -
hate that card - thats why i have combat capable burning vamps and
loss]

Mbare market would help in pool management [with pb:m]


also tag team kabede/olugbenga would be great [for another deck]

i noticed that with maneuver/2r agg and urba jungle/black throne/
magaij title there is possibility to eat vamps in combat or outside
combat - i'll test how it fare :> [despite, that i do not like nigger
assamites]

Wookie813

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Jul 31, 2008, 8:36:17 PM7/31/08
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On Jul 31, 4:08 pm, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
>
> Written by Jaakko Liemola
<snip>

Good to see a newsletter on the books. I appreciate you picking up the
baton and running with it!

For this deck, I would be inclined to run 1x Basir over one of the
Converts, simply for the occasional opportunity to play Assamite
required cards on the second turn. Chances are small to get Basir in
your opening draw AND have to go first, but with the number of clan-
specific cards in the deck, he can get off a second turn K:G to bleed
for 2, get anAlamut into play early, grab you two Pool with a K:L,
etc, befor blockers show up. Later in the game, he can still get
things accomplished with a Cloak in hand, or feint to entice a block,
etc.

Most of the time he's just a disposable chump, of course. Probably
just a style choice.

Also, I would swap 1x .44 for a Sniper Rifle. Olu on the block with
the set range is nice. Again, a style choice primarily.

I look forward to a regular installment of Assamite wisdom. Thank you
for doing it!

antero

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Aug 1, 2008, 1:06:06 AM8/1/08
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On 31 heinä, 23:08, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
>
> Written by Jaakko Liemola

snip


> 4x Olugbenga              7  OBF QUI ani cel      magaji Assamite:4
> 2x Anarch Convert         1                             Caitiff:0
> 1x Kashan                 7  CEL OBF QUI obt pre  1 vote Assamite:4
> 1x Hafsa, The Watcher     6  OBF QUI aus cel             Assamite:5
> 1x Reza Fatir, The Da     6  CEL QUI obf pro             Assamite:4
> 1x Vardar Vardarian       6  OBF QUI cel pre             Assamite:4
> 1x Kamau Jafari           4  QUI obf                     Assamite:4
> 1x Alu                    2  obf                         Assamite:5
>
> /* One could always drop the converts,

Or, one could keep them, and for the sheer hell of it, add 1-2
Constant Revolutions. With No Secrets and a .44 Magnum, Olugbenga
could be able to defend it at least a couple of turns.

-Antero

Kushiel

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On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> [despite, that i do not like nigger assamites]

Could you keep your bigotry elsewhere in the future, please?

John Eno

AcheronNi...@gmail.com

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what bigotry ? i dislike olugbenga art [it stinks] and lesser
celerity, and kamau lack of cel at all, kabede is fine - just lack of
sidekicks throw me off [and thematicaly i like more black hand ones]

Akantes

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I thought about which one to include, Basir or Alu, but given the
experience of a few games, I value Alu over Basir. In a pinch, you can
still attempt to block with Alu, which is something that Basir can't
do.
Add in the amount of obf in the library, and I see Alu as a clear
winner.
Sniper Rifle should be in there, seems I forgot to edit it in.
And, I'll try to do my best with the NL's. :)

Acheron, I had 1 copy of Mabare Market in the deck originally, but
decided to drop it. If you draw it later in the game, I usually found
I didn't feel comfortable playing it. It still takes 4 turns before
you get any benefit from it.

Antero, If I get the decklist from my friend, next issue is going to
include a Kabede Maru/Constant Rev-deck. But nothing to prevent from
adding 2 Constant Revs on to this deck, and be happy with it :)

Janne Hägglund

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AcheronNi...@gmail.com writes:

> On 1 Sie, 08:09, Kushiel <invisibleking...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > [despite, that i do not like nigger assamites]
> >
> > Could you keep your bigotry elsewhere in the future, please?
> >
> > John Eno
>
> what bigotry ?


From dictionary.com:

"Usage note The term nigger is now probably the most offensive word in
English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years,
although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the
Revolutionary War."


Merriam-Webster's Online:

"usage Nigger in senses 1 and 2 can be found in the works of such writers
of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles Dickens, but it now
ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English.
Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive,
but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred
and bigotry."


HG

Salem

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Aug 1, 2008, 5:43:02 AM8/1/08
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i think it was less about your choice of vampires, and more about the
term you used to reference them.

i'm pretty shockingly politically incorrect at times, and even i winced
when i read what you wrote.

--
salem
(replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email)

AcheronNi...@gmail.com

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On 1 Sie, 11:41, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:

how could be offensive using term nigger to describe fictional
characters from VtES ccg ? :P

there is one error/innacuracy in this definition - why it is ALWAYS
inflammatory while white/yellow people said it, but NOT ALWAYS when
used among black people ? it is ILLOGICAL

and about political correction - i'm politicaly incorrect, and i'm
fine with it. perhaps cultural influece of your country made you react
in such way - it is probably right case study.

you live in country, where is dictatorship of yet-another-form-of-
racism [polit. corr.]

before you ask - i'm not a racist - i hate people on equal terms.
colour of their skin is not an indicator. only deeds [and appearence -
everybody is more likely to like people who looks good]

thought about it. i have the luxury to not live in country, where
political correction is censoring my words. mark my words

John Eno - you insulted ME, i demand apologise!

Janne Hägglund

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Aug 1, 2008, 6:20:10 AM8/1/08
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AcheronNi...@gmail.com writes:

> before you ask - i'm not a racist


OK, I believe you. You're not a racist. You just have terrible manners.


HG


AcheronNi...@gmail.com

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Aug 1, 2008, 6:28:41 AM8/1/08
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On 1 Sie, 12:20, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:

this sarcasm was unnecessary ... if we're speaking about manners we
both show ours :>

James Coupe

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Aug 1, 2008, 9:26:36 AM8/1/08
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In message <5a1418c2-1676-4df2...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroup

s.com>, AcheronNi...@gmail.com writes:
>before you ask - i'm not a racist -

You just happily endorse using extremely offensive, racist terms, and
don't understand why people think you're a racist when you do so?

--
James Coupe
PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR.
EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING.
13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

niko...@hotmail.com

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Aug 1, 2008, 10:22:29 AM8/1/08
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> John Eno - you insulted ME, i demand apologise!- Skjul tekst i anførselstegn -
>
> - Vis tekst i anførselstegn -

I dont know where to start in commenting on this post, so I will just
refrain from posting and watch.
*getting popcorn*

cant... resist...

You claim that John insulted you, and for that you demand an apology.
I think many black people could see your comment as an insult to
them.
I am sure John will agree to an apology to you, if you apologize to
all black people.
Only seems fair, no?


Peter D Bakija

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Aug 1, 2008, 10:51:34 AM8/1/08
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In article
<5a1418c2-1676-4df2...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

AcheronNi...@gmail.com wrote:
> how could be offensive using term nigger to describe fictional
> characters from VtES ccg ? :P

'Cause when you use a term that folks find deeply offensive, people will
react to it as if it offends them.

> there is one error/innacuracy in this definition - why it is ALWAYS
> inflammatory while white/yellow people said it, but NOT ALWAYS when
> used among black people ? it is ILLOGICAL

Suck it up. The world is illogical.

> and about political correction - i'm politicaly incorrect, and i'm
> fine with it. perhaps cultural influece of your country made you react
> in such way - it is probably right case study.

You can say whatever you want. But if you want people to:

A) pay attention to what you actually have to say.

and

B) Not appear to be a total douche bag.

You might consider editing your comments in a public forum.

> before you ask - i'm not a racist - i hate people on equal terms.
> colour of their skin is not an indicator. only deeds [and appearence -
> everybody is more likely to like people who looks good]
>
> thought about it. i have the luxury to not live in country, where
> political correction is censoring my words. mark my words

Again, you can say whatever you want. But no one will take you
seriously, as you come off like an idiot. And kind of a douche bag.
Which results in people generally ignoring you if you are actually
trying to discuss something. If you are just a troll trying to get a
rise out of people, you'll probably succeed at that. But that generally
just pathetic.

Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"
-Gaff

librarian

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Aug 1, 2008, 11:43:54 AM8/1/08
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Funny thing about your post - as soon as you said you dislike the .44
magnum, I stopped reading, since I assumed you were either a troll or an
idiot, or both.

So I didn't get to the part at the end. Then my assumptions would have
been confirmed.

best -

chris

--
Super Fun Cards
www.superfuncards.com *NEW Website!*
auct...@superfuncards.com

Anthony Coleman

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Aug 1, 2008, 11:49:14 AM8/1/08
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nikol...@hotmail.com wrote:


> I am sure John will agree to an apology to you, if you apologize to
> all black people.

You are? I doubt it personally :O)

Anthony

Kushiel

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:07:08 PM8/1/08
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On Aug 1, 6:07 am, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> how could be offensive using term nigger to describe fictional
> characters from VtES ccg ? :P

If your intent wasn't to show off how "edgy" you are, why not use the
word "Laibon" instead of "nigger," given that "Laibon" also happens to
more accurately describe the group of vampires you were talking about?

> perhaps cultural influece of your country made you react
> in such way

No. Knowing black people who would be pissed off that you'd used the
word "nigger" without any good reason is why I asked you to not do so
in the future.

> John Eno - you insulted ME, i demand apologise!

I insulted you by asking you to keep your bigotry to yourself? I'm not
seeing the insult there.

John Eno

Kushiel

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:09:58 PM8/1/08
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Anthony is right. I don't care about an apology by either side. I'd
just like it if acheronnightstallion could keep the bigotry to himself
in the future, and he'd be doing himself a favor by doing so, since as
Peter pointed out, it just makes anything else he says seem dumb even
if it wouldn't be coming from someone else.

John Eno

Akantes

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:19:56 PM8/1/08
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Atleast this got attention.

But not in a way I wished it would have. I'm more than annoyed about
the fact it had to result in this sort of an argument.

Kushiel

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:40:12 PM8/1/08
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Now, see, this is the kind of thing that deserves an apology.

For what it's worth, I'm sorry that your entirely reasonable and well
conceived newsletter thread has ended up where it has.

John Eno

Blooded Sand

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Aug 1, 2008, 1:43:48 PM8/1/08
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Akantes, sweet newsletter brother.

And Acheron, if I was to say something to you that would equate to
"you are nothing more, and will never be anything more than a slave"
would that offend you? Because by using the term you did, that is
exactly what you said. If you honestly don't get that, then I fell
very sorry for you...

Peter D Bakija

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Aug 1, 2008, 2:40:44 PM8/1/08
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In article
<c9e906d6-154f-4abf...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
Blooded Sand <sand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Akantes, sweet newsletter brother.

Indeed. Good work.

> And Acheron, if I was to say something to you that would equate to
> "you are nothing more, and will never be anything more than a slave"
> would that offend you?

No, it wouldn't. As he isn't a slave, has never been a slave, never will
be a slave, and clearly lacks the empathy to understand why someone
would be offended by such a thing.

AcheronNi...@gmail.com

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Aug 1, 2008, 4:47:59 PM8/1/08
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geez, you American people and you taboo :>

maybe we move the discussion about you racial phobia elaswhere ? it
would be healthy for us all.
this topic is for clan assamite.

you have the right to hate me for breaking your taboo, and i have my
right to not censor myself. some of you take it too far already.

p.s for Blooded Sand: term nigger is not 'only' describtion of slaves
of old, not always offensive etc. 'Yoruba constitute approximately 21
percent of Nigeria's total population' it's ironic that, if you name
people from NIG(g)ERia using word NIGGER, people will wish to kill you
in most violent way :D

p.s for librarian: funny thing about you - you behave as either troll
or idiot. or both. you do not even said a word about assamite
newsletter, you focused yourself to start the flame war. ain't that
funny ?

Peter D Bakija

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Aug 1, 2008, 5:02:39 PM8/1/08
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In article
<40a4c6b1-ba5a-46b7...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
AcheronNi...@gmail.com wrote:

> geez, you American people and you taboo :>

Geez, you non American people and your sweeping generalizations.

> maybe we move the discussion about you racial phobia elaswhere ?

Well, when someone is a douche bag, it is reasonable to call them on it.

> you have the right to hate me for breaking your taboo, and i have my
> right to not censor myself. some of you take it too far already.

Don't flatter yourself by thinking that people hate you. You are acting
like an idiot in a public forum. People will call you on it. As noted,
you can say whatever you want. But if you want people to respond to you
in a positive fashion when you discuss things, it is generally advisable
to try and be generally polite. Otherwise, people will either hassle you
or just ignore you.

> p.s for Blooded Sand: term nigger is not 'only' describtion of slaves
> of old, not always offensive etc. 'Yoruba constitute approximately 21
> percent of Nigeria's total population' it's ironic that, if you name
> people from NIG(g)ERia using word NIGGER, people will wish to kill you
> in most violent way :D

You are one deluded dude. But ok.

> p.s for librarian: funny thing about you - you behave as either troll
> or idiot. or both. you do not even said a word about assamite
> newsletter, you focused yourself to start the flame war. ain't that
> funny ?

Not really. Again, when someone acts like an idiot in public, it is
prudent to call them on it. He was calling you on it. Makes perfect
sense to me. It is unfortunate that a discussion about the game has been
derailed by a discussion about how not to be a douche bag. But these
things happen. You have been to the internet before, right?

LSJ

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Remember: don't feed trolls.

Kushiel

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On Aug 1, 4:47 pm, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> geez, you American people and you taboo :>

Unless I'm mistaken, James Coupe is in the UK, Janne Hagglund is in
Finland and Salem is in Australia. Want to try that again?

> maybe we move the discussion about you racial phobia elaswhere ? it
> would be healthy for us all.
> this topic is for clan assamite.

Then why the fuck did YOU bring it up in the first place? Surely, for
purely pragmatic reasons, aside from any racial slurs you wanted to
sling around to show us how free you are from the oppression of
political correctness, you can understand why using "Laibon" instead
of "nigger" would have been a more accurate choice of words, right?

John Eno

mat...@gmail.com

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On Jul 31, 1:08 pm, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
>
> Written by Jaakko Liemola
>
> Greetings.
>
> I'm Jaakko, the new writer of this newsletter. Also, I'm a relatively
> new player, 3 years being an
> overestimate I think. But nonetheless, I hope I have something to give
> to you readers, about our
> beloved clan Assamite, and hope to learn something myself in the
> process of writing these newsletters.
> I'll try to live up to those names, who have written this newsletter
> before me, they've thought me
> much of this game, and the clan Assamite.
>
> I'll try to keep a concept of the month in these newsletters, and
> provide a decklist for the concept.
> Tested or untested.
>
> First of these concepts, is a wallish bleeder. Quite surprising
> wouldn't you say? Given the toys we
> have access to, this isn't something to sneeze at. We just need a few
> cards, and a few selected
> vampires for the deck. Tom Duncan has also written a newsletter about
> this, but I feel that so much
> has changed that it's worth going back to. I recommend reading it,
> it's the March 2006 newsletter.
> Some things I say will propably overlap with him, and on some things
> we propably disagree.
> But, lets get started shall we? :)
>
> First, we'll need this:
>
> No Secrets of the Magaji
>
> +1 stealth action. Requires a ready magaji.
> Put this card on this magaji and untap him or her. The magaji with
> this card gets +1 intercept when
> attempting to block vampires. If this magaji is tapped, he or she may
> attempt to block a vampire as
> if untapped. Burn this card if this magaji attempts to block a vampire
> but is not successful.
> A vampire may have only one No Secrets From the Magaji.
>
> What's not to like it? Untap, +1 intercept, and can block a vampire as
> if untapped. You'll still need
> a reaction module of some sort to help against those pesky allies
> which you most likely will bump into
> sooner or later. We'll get back to that later on. Several copies of it
> are needed, so you'll get one
> early on.
>
> Secondly, we need this:
>
> Olugbenga
>
> When contesting a vampire, you may use the blood on that vampire or on
> Olugbenga as pool to pay for
> the contest. Olugbenga gets +1 intercept against bleed actions.
> (The blood curse does not affect Olugbenga.)
>
> Keyword here being the +1 intercept against bleed.
> Given the +1 from the No Secrets, it's already 2 permanent intercept
> against bleeds.
> Against some decks, it's enough, and against some decks, it really
> isn't. However, his secondary
> ability regarding the contesting of vampires isn't likely to be of
> help. Though it's happened to me
> once, in an earlier version of this months deck, which goes through
> it's third overhaul version.
> But when it happens, the look on your preys face when you influence
> Olugbenga out, is closely
> priceless.
>
> Another great card for this sort of a deck:
>
> Powerbase: Tshwane
>
> Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon.
> Tap this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool
> (this location is not tapped if that card is canceled as it is
> played). Any Laibon may steal this
> location for his or her controller as a (D) action
>
> This card is golden. It works on every card you play, that costs a
> pool, and in this deck, those
> cards are many. You play a Direct Intervention on your predator's
> blockfail? Tap Tshwane, and it's a
> free DI. You play a Sport Bike for more intercept? Tap Tshwane, and
> it's free. And so on and so on.
> An early copy of it will save you much pool. Possibly even enough for
> one more guy in your support
> group to help on ousting. So it's worth of adding 2 copies of it in
> the deck.
>
> Other cards, that will help you getting on the intercept, are the
> media outlets, and retainers.
> Namely Shaman and Mr. Winthrop. I'm not too sold on raven spies in a
> deck like this, even though
> Olugbenga is the star. If you draw an early No Secrets, and a media
> outlet or two, you're quite safe
> from what I've experienced. And, you are running Direct Interventions
> right?
>
> So how are we going to be able to play all those poolcosting locations
> and equipments? By gaining pool
> of course. Luckily, Lords of the Night added the wonderful card
> Haqim's Law: Leadership to our relief :)
> Running a few copies of it should be enough of poolgain during the
> course of a game to help you stay
> healthy with the other poolgaining there's gonna be in the deck.
> I'd run Blood Dolls in this sort of a deck, even though are going to
> be running rather high amount of
> masters. The tools of the trade are expensive in total costs, and you
> are going to need all the pool
> you can get to not get ousted before you oust.
>
> Let's do a quick comparison, over 3 turns, BD will give you 3 pool, or
> you can add a blood to the
> vampire instantly, if you're in the dire need of it. Vessel, would
> only give you 2 pool, and starts to
> function only on the second turn. If you get 2 pool from the BD, or
> push back 1 pool to prevent
> something, you're already on the better side of Vessel.
>
> Then there's Alamut, and with it comes votes, and with votes, comes
> ConBoon, for the third part of bloating
> engine. Not really much to explain here, most people should know how
> that operates, and if they don't,
> well, they're in for a surprise :)
>
> Then for the ousting part.
>
> At the basic, you'll need only 1 card for the boost on ousting.
>
> Loss
>
> Blood Cost: 1
> [qui] (D) Burn an equipment or location on a minion controlled by your
> predator or prey.
> [QUI] (D) Bleed at +2 bleed.
>
> And even the inferior is useful. Blow up the Heart of Nizchetus from
> your prey, and just smile when
> they wonder what that was. Or just bleed them away. Which is the
> biggest part on the oustmethod of this
> deck.
>
> If you choose to run Alamut and ConBoons with it, there's another card
> that can greatly help you on your
> ousting:
>
> Reckless Agitation
>
> Blood Cost: 2
> Requires an independent vampire with capacity above 4.
> Allocate 6 points among two or more other Methuselahs. Successful
> referendum means each Methuselah
> burns 1 pool for each point assigned.
>
> You just need an independent 5-cap vampire to call for RA. The
> downside part of the vote is, that you
> can't use it when there are only 2 players left, so at most I'd run 3
> RA:s in here. If you feel that
> you want to use votes when there's 2 players left, you can always go
> with the KRC-route, and be happy for
> shooting your prey for 3 and yourself for 1.
> But at best, you're not running too many independents in the crypt for
> this deck, so KRC might be a bit better
> option, if even a little less useful, as all the vampires in your
> crypt can call it by default. Unlike RA.
>
> Now, earlier I said that you'll need a reaction package against the
> evil allies, which you'll most likely
> encounter. Warghouls and Shamblers with Khazar's Diary-decks are the
> first that comes to my mind. You most
> likely will want to block some of them. Instead of Black Sunrises,
> which are good, no doubt about that,
> On the Qui Vives and Fillips, which are easier to cycle, and won't
> force you to block.
> Another part of the reaction module can be Nest of Eagles, which
> reduces bleed by 1, or, if it's a 5-cap or
> smaller, it's reduces by 3. But, it might jam your hand, so 2-3 at
> maximum, if even that.
>
> So, here's the deck of the month:
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 5.08333
> ------------------------------------------------------------

>
> 4x Olugbenga 7 OBF QUI ani cel magaji Assamite:4
> 2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> 1x Kashan 7 CEL OBF QUI obt pre 1 vote Assamite:4
> 1x Hafsa, The Watcher 6 OBF QUI aus cel Assamite:5
> 1x Reza Fatir, The Da 6 CEL QUI obf pro Assamite:4
> 1x Vardar Vardarian 6 OBF QUI cel pre Assamite:4
> 1x Kamau Jafari 4 QUI obf Assamite:4
> 1x Alu 2 obf Assamite:5
>
> /* One could always drop the converts, and double up on Kamau and
> Vardar, as they are propably the most wanted
> companions for Olugbenga to do their dirty work. I didn't include
> Basir here, as I feel, that Alu is a much better
> choice. Last game I played with this, Alu was the MVP */
>
> Library [90 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [22]
> 5x Haqim's Law: Leadership
> 2x Khabar: Glory
> 8x Loss
> 7x No Secrets From the Magaji
>
> /* Not much big surprises here, if I'd change anything, I'd most
> likely drop both of the glories, and swap in
> 1 Loss, and 1 Haqim's */
>
> Action Modifier [18]
> 5x Cloak the Gathering
> 5x Faceless Night
> 4x Lost in Crowds
> 4x Spying Mission
>
> Action Modifier/Combat [5]
> 5x Swallowed by the Night
>
> /* Well, what can you say, stealth gets you through. Swalloweds also
> double up as maneuver in a bad case */
>
> Combat [7]
> 4x Pursuit
> 3x Side Strike
>
> Equipment [6]
> 3x .44 Magnum
> 1x Flak Jacket
> 1x Ivory Bow
> 1x Sport Bike
>
> /* This should be defensive enough most of the time to avoid some
> annoying combat. */
>
> Event [1]
> 1x Narrow Minds
>
> Master [18]
> 3x Alamut
> 1x Barrens, The
> 4x Blood Doll
> 1x Channel 10
> 3x Direct Intervention
> 1x Guardian Angel
> 1x Market Square
> 2x Powerbase: Tshwane
> 1x WMRH Talk Radio
> 1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
>
> /* Yes, the masters are expensive. You'll be low on pool before you
> even notice it. One could always drop
> Wall Street, and add Powerbase: Montreal instead of it for some
> poolgain.*/
>
> Political Action [5]
> 3x Consanguineous Boon
> 2x Reckless Agitation
>
> Reaction [6]
> 3x Nest of Eagles
> 3x On the Qui Vive
>
> Retainer [2]
> 1x Mr. Winthrop
> 1x Shaman
>
> */ Quite basic the rest of it. 3 wakes just in case someone blows up
> my No Secrets, and I really need to block
> that action. */
>
> This is actually a fun deck to play. You'll get to tinker some, and
> bleed some forward. You should be able to get
> 2-3 vampires out, minimum. Depending on your hand, your turn should
> consist of bleeding, or getting your
> pool up.
>
> It has it weaknesses, mainly the combat section. If you get a rushdeck
> next to you, hope that his predator is putting
> enough pressure on him, that you'll get free hands. ...
>
> read more »

1 Raven Spy might be a good add for this deck.

Akantes

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On Aug 1, 11:47 pm, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> geez, you American people and you taboo :>
>
> maybe we move the discussion about you racial phobia elaswhere ? it
> would be healthy for us all.
> this topic is for clan assamite.

You are already quite late. I hope that in the future, you refrain
yourself posting/replying in anything I post.
I do not wish to receive comments/suggestions from you in any way.

You have lost your credibility in my eyes.

Wookie813

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On Jul 31, 4:08 pm, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
>

After thinking on this more, and considering new tech, I thought about
utilizing the Path of Blood in the build to make the Loss free, and
facilitate a few Blood Awakenings, which provide transient +intercept
and a little block fails.

Was this explored in a previous incarnation of the deck? NSFtM lends
itself to protecting the Path. However, encouraging blocks means more
combats, and I'm not sure there is enough kung-fu in this to make that
feasible. Just a thought.

As for the Bagadouche, I encourage the community to report the post as
offensive and hopefully we can get it deleted. I'd be happy if all
subsequent replies were also deleted, so this newsletter can be
archived without the unfortunate side-track.

antero

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Wookie813 wrote:
> On Jul 31, 4:08 pm, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
> >
>
> After thinking on this more, and considering new tech, I thought about
> utilizing the Path of Blood in the build to make the Loss free, and
> facilitate a few Blood Awakenings, which provide transient +intercept
> and a little block fails.
>
> Was this explored in a previous incarnation of the deck? NSFtM lends
> itself to protecting the Path. However, encouraging blocks means more
> combats, and I'm not sure there is enough kung-fu in this to make that
> feasible. Just a thought.
>

Retain the Quick Blood could help in that:

[cel qui] +1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting vampire. Blood this vampire spends to play
cards that require Celerity or Quietus is placed on this card instead
of the blood bank. During your untap phase, move 1 blood from this
card to this vampire.
[CEL QUI] As above, but move 2 blood from this card to this vampire
during your untap phase.

Too bad that it's a rare, and I only have one copy, so I've not been
able to test how it works.

-Antero

Jyhad

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On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, AcheronNightStal...@gmail.com wrote:
> like it, and the deck [despite personal distaste about .44 magnum -
> hate that card - thats why i have combat capable burning vamps and
> loss]
>
> Mbare market would help in pool management [with pb:m]
>
> also tag team kabede/olugbenga would be great [for another deck]
>
> i noticed that with maneuver/2r agg and urba jungle/black throne/
> magaij title there is possibility to eat vamps in combat or outside
> combat - i'll test how it fare :> [despite, that i do not like nigger
> assamites]

I'd just like to point out that all Assamites save Al-Ashrad get
darker as they get older. So it is inevitable that an Assamite turn
nearly obsidian as Thetmes is often described as. Now, if you are
going to be "racist" at least do it right and the word "Sand" before
the "N" word everyone else has their panties in a bunch about. And if
you think I'm being "racist." Clearly you haven't read some of my
past posts pointing out the fact that I am a "Camel Jockey".
Although, I prefer the "sand n*****" for personal amusement.

Akantes

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On Aug 2, 3:31 am, Wookie813 <veknpont...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 31, 4:08 pm, Akantes <akan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Clan Assamite Newsletter, July 2008
>
> After thinking on this more, and considering new tech, I thought about
> utilizing the Path of Blood in the build to make the Loss free, and
> facilitate a few Blood Awakenings, which provide transient +intercept
> and a little block fails.
>
> Was this explored in a previous incarnation of the deck? NSFtM lends
> itself to protecting the Path. However, encouraging blocks means more
> combats, and I'm not sure there is enough kung-fu in this to make that
> feasible. Just a thought.

Not really. The deck has always been obf-based. As the biggest vampire
in the crypt is Olugbenga, and Blood Awakening works only against
younger vampires.

Though it could be a base for bruise/bleed deck.

Antero, I'm building a deck for one of the upcoming issues, that'll
contain the RtQB's. Though it really isn't a bleed deck.

Blooded Sand

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Um, moron, people from Nigeria are called Nigerians.... And I'm not
American, I'm African you racist neo nazi turd eating slimeball. if
you were to walk in Lagos (know where that is?) and call a local a
nigger, you would have about 45 seconds before they feed you to a
hyeana.
I have been an Assamite supporter since AH/DS. Having a completely
imbecile like yourself also stating his support for them is like
having to share a train ride with a bunch of unwashed puke covered
swastika covered assholes for 8 hours.

To everyone else, I apologise for my language but this "person" (and I
sue the word person advisedly is really starting to irritate the hell
out of me.
Frankly, I have been an Assamite supporter since

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