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(DECK) Harbingers Bleeder

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librarian

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Nov 26, 2007, 12:35:13 AM11/26/07
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Deck Name: Harbingers bleeder
Created By: shorb
Description: Idea is to use Agaitas and Slaughterhouses to fill the
prey's ash with lots of tasty cards.

Then bleed with Trochomancy, stealthed with Call and Spectral.

Should I have a back-up plan? Go Anarch with Powerbase LA?

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 21, Max: 29, Avg: 6.25)
----------------------------------------------
4 Agaitas for AUS NEC 6 Harbingers of
Skulls
1 Gisela Harden aus dem FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of
Skulls
3 Egothha obf AUS FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of
Skulls
1 Anisa Marianna Lopez aus FOR NEC QUI 8 Harbingers of
Skulls
2 Le Dinh Tho aus dom NEC 5 Nagaraja
1 Beatrice L`Angou aus dom nec MYT 5 Kiasyd

Library: (67 cards)
-------------------
Master (20 cards)
1 Auspex
1 Necromancy
1 Fortitude
14 Slaughterhouse, The
2 Barrens, The
1 Dreams of the Sphinx

Action Modifier (13 cards)
7 Trochomancy
6 Call of the Hungry Dead

Reaction (19 cards)
3 Wake with Evening`s Freshness
5 On the Qui Vive
7 Telepathic Misdirection
2 Eagle`s Sight
2 Enhanced Senses

Combat (8 cards)
4 Skin of Steel
4 Rolling with the Punches

Combo (7 cards)
1 Breath of Thanatos
6 Spectral Divination

This deck was last saved at 9:28:48 PM on 11/25/2007

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J

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Nov 26, 2007, 5:25:18 AM11/26/07
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> 1 Auspex
> 1 Necromancy
> 1 Fortitude
> 14 Slaughterhouse, The
> 2 Barrens, The
> 1 Dreams of the Sphinx

Slaughterhouses are expensive... Therbold realty.
You've also got maybe 4 too many, you'll find them clumping in your
hand with this small a library.

> Combat (8 cards)
> 4 Skin of Steel
> 4 Rolling with the Punches

Not enough prevent. I'd try to get at least 15+ prevent cards, and
some permanent prevent (Guardian Angel/Flak Jacket etc)

--> J
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Peter D Bakija

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Nov 26, 2007, 8:26:47 AM11/26/07
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On Nov 26, 12:35 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
> Deck Name: Harbingers bleeder
> Created By: shorb
> Description: Idea is to use Agaitas and Slaughterhouses to fill the
> prey's ash with lots of tasty cards.
>
> Then bleed with Trochomancy, stealthed with Call and Spectral.
>
> Should I have a back-up plan? Go Anarch with Powerbase LA?

I got one of these in play currently. It is pretty good. I'm using
G3/4 to use Sennadurek (who is Teh Awsome) and the 6 cap whose name I
can't remember who is also awsome (she makes you burn 2 cards when she
bleeds you).

> Master (20 cards)
> 1 Auspex
> 1 Necromancy
> 1 Fortitude
> 14 Slaughterhouse, The
> 2 Barrens, The
> 1 Dreams of the Sphinx

A) Therbold Realty

B) Insurance Scam

You can probably take out 2 of the Slaughter Haus-es to make room. I
use 8 Slaughterhaus, and that is usually sufficient.

> Action Modifier (13 cards)
> 7 Trochomancy
> 6 Call of the Hungry Dead

Not enough Trochomancy. +2 bleed is good, but you need it to be more
consistient.

-Peter

Jeff Kuta

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Nov 26, 2007, 10:22:16 AM11/26/07
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> aucti...@superfuncards.com

I agree with the above suggestions to reduce the cost of the
Slaughterhouses. Plus:

-1 The Barrens
+1 Secure Haven
+1 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
+1 Sargon Fragment
+1 Seal of Veddartha
+1 Erebus Mask
+1 Sacre Cour Cathedral, France
+1 Pulse of the Canaille

Jeff

Orpheus

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Nov 27, 2007, 8:58:25 AM11/27/07
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> Deck Name: Harbingers bleeder
> Created By: shorb
> Description: Idea is to use Agaitas and Slaughterhouses to fill the
> prey's ash with lots of tasty cards.
>
> Then bleed with Trochomancy, stealthed with Call and Spectral.
>
> Should I have a back-up plan? Go Anarch with Powerbase LA?

Add Parthenons to get more than 1 Slaughterhouse in play per turn ? Great
combo with Maabara too...

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The Zombeatles, "A Hard Day's Night of the Living Dead.


Malone

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Nov 27, 2007, 9:23:24 AM11/27/07
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On Nov 26, 12:35 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
> aucti...@superfuncards.com

I'd change a couple of the Slaughterhouse into Therbold Realty and
Insurance Scam, or else find a way to pack a few Parthenon (as Orpheus
sugested), I guess by losing the discipline Masters -- but even then
I'd add TR and IS. Your second and especially third prey will likely
already have cards in the ashheap, and cashing in a few
Slaughterhouses for the insurance pool can be a lifesaver.

1x Erebus Mask would probably help more often than 1x Breath of
Thanatos, and two more Trochomancy might be better than the two
Enhanced Senses.

Peter D Bakija

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Nov 27, 2007, 4:13:24 PM11/27/07
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In article <474c2282$0$16407$426a...@news.free.fr>,
"Orpheus" <orphe...@DEADSPAMfree.fr> wrote:

> Add Parthenons to get more than 1 Slaughterhouse in play per turn ? Great
> combo with Maabara too...

It probably isn't really necessary--you don't need a huge number of
Slaughterhauses, as you don't really care about decking your prey. You
just want to encourage him to have a lot of cards in his ashheap. And a
lot of Slaughterhauses, really, tends to incur a great deal of backwards
table hate. If you have 1 or 2 SH on the table, you can sell the
argument of "Hey--it doesn't matter that I milled those 4 cards. It is
just like they were on the bottom of your deck!". But if you are
milling, like, 10 cards a turn, then your prey is likely to get really,
really antsy and start doing things like KRCing you for 3 upstream and
stuff.

Just for the sake of comparison, here is my version of this deck I have
been playing since LotN came out, and it is doing pretty well overall:

"What The Hell's a Trochomancy?"

Crypt:
3x Balbawo Alafin (7) AUS, NEC, Laibon, extra cycling.
3x Zygodat (6) AUS, NEC, burn 2 cards when she bleeds.
2x Sennadurek (6) AUS, NEC, untaps all the time.
2x Solomon Batanea (5) AUS, nec, Laibon
2x Prejudice (4) aus, nec

A lot of good, solid, AUS, NEC vampires with good special abilities.
Zygodat and Balbawo help get more cards in your prey's ashheap.
Predjudice might actually get to use his special in a deck like this.

Library:
8x Slaughterhouse
4x Vessel
1x Therbold Reality
1x Insurance Scam
1x Giant's Blood

12x Trochomancy
12x Call the Hungry Dead
8x Spectral Divination
8x Spiritual Intervention
4x Breath of Thanatos
10x Telepathic Misdirection
4x Enhanced Senses
4x Ancestor's Insight
3x Revelations
1x Emergency Rations
1x Erebus Mask
8x Wake

As noted, I don't want a ton of Slaughterhauses, just a couple, really,
so 8 is usually ok, but once and a while, I don't draw any early, and if
my prey isn't working so well, I end up not bleeding enough. But usually
not a problem. There is a lot of block avoidance/stealth, which
sometimes clogs up my hand, but Balbawo helps with that. The Breath of
Thanatos could probably be more Spiritual Intervention (or some
Fortitude in case I get grappled), but the surprise ag is actually kinda
handy once and a while. Ancestor's Insight also could probably be
something more useful, but I like the flexibility, extra bleed, and I
just think the card is kinda cool. Much like Prejudice, the Emergency
Rations might actually work in this deck. Revelations is good as it lets
you see if your prey has bounce *and* gets an extra card in their
ashheap to prime the pump. Pretty effective S+B with good defense. If it
ousts it's first prey, it is usually in great shape, as by then it's
second prey already has tons of cards in the ashheap and you can often
deck them with just 2 or 3 Slaughterhauses.

Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

"Find hungry samurai."
-The Old Man

Salem

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Nov 27, 2007, 4:59:32 PM11/27/07
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Peter D Bakija wrote:

If you think you have enough Laibon-ness for Ancestor's, how about a
Strange Day?

I just scored myself a VP last night with it. Unblockable bleed for 1 FTW!

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Peter D Bakija

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Nov 27, 2007, 6:54:13 PM11/27/07
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In article <474c...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
Salem <salem_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> If you think you have enough Laibon-ness for Ancestor's, how about a
> Strange Day?
>
> I just scored myself a VP last night with it. Unblockable bleed for 1 FTW!

Heh--oh, maybe that is a good idea!

Bram Vink

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Nov 27, 2007, 11:15:16 PM11/27/07
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On 28 nov, 00:54, Peter D Bakija <p...@lightlink.com> wrote:
> In article <474c9...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,

>
> Salem <salem_christ....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > If you think you have enough Laibon-ness for Ancestor's, how about a
> > Strange Day?
>
> > I just scored myself a VP last night with it. Unblockable bleed for 1 FTW!
>
> Heh--oh, maybe that is a good idea!
>
> Peter D Bakija
> p...@lightlink.comhttp://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html

>
> "Find hungry samurai."
> -The Old Man

how about instead of therbold realty, powerbase: tshwane?
Seems better together with vessel

Janne Hägglund

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Nov 28, 2007, 4:00:47 AM11/28/07
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Bram Vink <jja....@hccnet.nl> writes:

How about instead of "instead", use them both? One of the two will tend to
come out earlier than just one. And if one of them is stolen/burned, you
still have the other.


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Peter D Bakija

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Nov 28, 2007, 8:24:44 AM11/28/07
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On Nov 27, 11:15 pm, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
> how about instead of therbold realty, powerbase: tshwane?
> Seems better together with vessel

Seems like it could be a good idea, but with only 5 Laibon in the
crypt, it is a tad riskier--I'm ok with 4 Laibon only minion cards,
but as one of my, what, 15 Masters, I'm less likely to want to gamble.
That, and I only own 1 Tshwane, and I apparently need it in, like, 4
different decks at once :-)

-Peter

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