[LSJ] Peacemaker (spoiler)

[Mochuda]

Peacemaker
Only usable by a vampire who successfully blocks a (d) action directed
at you (play before combat)
[pre] cancel combat. The action continues as if unblocked. For the
remainder of this action, all minions get -1 bleed and -1 strength.
[obe] As pre above, and untap this blocking vampire at the end of the
action.
[OBE] as obe above, but all minions get -2 bleed and -2 strength and
cannot use weapons.

1/ just to make sure it is usable on a (d) action against you (the
methuselah) but not on a (d) action on something you control (a
rush/sensory/temptation on a vampire, a arson on a location...). Correct ?

2/ it says "the action continues as if unblocked". Can it be blocked
again ? I believe yes (as for mirror image and stuff alike).

So is this situation correct
My predator annouces a bleed action against me
Matthias is tapped and plays a WWEF.
He successfully blocks.
He plays peacemaker. Action continues.
He blocks again (as he played a WWEF and maybe some transient intercept
that still kicks in, he's able to).
Combats ensues.

thx

[flan]

And untaps at the end.

[Emmit Svenson]

Mochuda wrote:
> Peacemaker
> Only usable by a vampire who successfully blocks a (d) action directed
> at you (play before combat)
> [pre] cancel combat. The action continues as if unblocked. For the
> remainder of this action, all minions get -1 bleed and -1 strength.
> [obe] As pre above, and untap this blocking vampire at the end of the
> action.
> [OBE] as obe above, but all minions get -2 bleed and -2 strength and
> cannot use weapons.
>
> 1/ just to make sure it is usable on a (d) action against you (the
> methuselah) but not on a (d) action on something you control (a
> rush/sensory/temptation on a vampire, a arson on a location...). Correct ?

I'm pretty certain that "a (D) action directed at you" includes actions
directed at cards you control, including minions, locations and
masters.

> 2/ it says "the action continues as if unblocked". Can it be blocked
> again ? I believe yes (as for mirror image and stuff alike).

Yes.

> So is this situation correct
> My predator annouces a bleed action against me
> Matthias is tapped and plays a WWEF.
> He successfully blocks.
> He plays peacemaker. Action continues.
> He blocks again (as he played a WWEF and maybe some transient intercept
> that still kicks in, he's able to).
> Combats ensues.

Yes. But the "continues as if unblocked" clause allows you to decline
to block again if you prefer. If you fear your opponent's -2 strength
combat more than you fear his -2 bleed, for example.

[LSJ]

Emmit Svenson wrote:
> Mochuda wrote:
>>Peacemaker
>>Only usable by a vampire who successfully blocks a (d) action directed
>>at you (play before combat)
>>[pre] cancel combat. The action continues as if unblocked. For the
>>remainder of this action, all minions get -1 bleed and -1 strength.
>>[obe] As pre above, and untap this blocking vampire at the end of the
>>action.
>>[OBE] as obe above, but all minions get -2 bleed and -2 strength and
>>cannot use weapons.
>>
>>1/ just to make sure it is usable on a (d) action against you (the
>>methuselah) but not on a (d) action on something you control (a
>>rush/sensory/temptation on a vampire, a arson on a location...). Correct ?
>
> I'm pretty certain that "a (D) action directed at you" includes actions
> directed at cards you control, including minions, locations and
> masters.

Correct.

>>2/ it says "the action continues as if unblocked". Can it be blocked
>>again ? I believe yes (as for mirror image and stuff alike).
>
> Yes.

Correct.

>>So is this situation correct
>>My predator annouces a bleed action against me
>>Matthias is tapped and plays a WWEF.
>>He successfully blocks.
>>He plays peacemaker. Action continues.
>>He blocks again (as he played a WWEF and maybe some transient intercept
>>that still kicks in, he's able to).
>>Combats ensues.
>
> Yes. But the "continues as if unblocked" clause allows you to decline
> to block again if you prefer. If you fear your opponent's -2 strength
> combat more than you fear his -2 bleed, for example.

Correct.

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[ira...@gmail.com]

Let's say A is untapped and successfully blocks B. Does A tap
immediately, or does A have a chance to play Peacemaker before tapping?

I'm confused because I thought that the time when you tap A is when A
successfully blocks. Obviously if you Wake, this card works fine. I'm
wondering what happens when A starts untapped.

Thanks,

Ira

Peacemaker
Reaction
Only usable by a vampire who successfully blocks a (D) action directed
at you (play before combat).

[pre] Cancel combat. The action continues as if unblocked. For the

remainder of this action, all minions get -1 bleed and -1 strength.

[obe] As [pre] above, and untap this blocking vampire at the end of the
action.

[OBE] As [obe] above, but all minions get -2 bleed and -2 strength and
cannot use weapons.

[Robert Scythe]

ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> Let's say A is untapped and successfully blocks B. Does A tap
> immediately, or does A have a chance to play Peacemaker before tapping?
>
> I'm confused because I thought that the time when you tap A is when A
> successfully blocks. Obviously if you Wake, this card works fine. I'm
> wondering what happens when A starts untapped.

It uses the same timing window as Obedience (and Voice of Madness,
Bloodstorm of Chorazin, et al).

[ira...@gmail.com]

OK, that certain makes sense, and those other cards are good examples.

If that's true, A obviously has a chance to play the card, but after
playing it, does A (the reacting vampire) tap, or not? Obedience has
text that says not to tap the reacting vampire, and the other two cards
have text that says to tap the reacting vampire. Peacemaker doesn't
have any text related to the tapping that does/doesn't occur at the
time of blocking.

Normally, blocking taps you, so I don't see why this would be
different. A could play Peacemaker, but would then be tapped, and the
action would be continuing. Of course, if A played a wake, A could
attempt to block again.

Does all that seem right?

Ira

[LSJ]

Yes, the blocking minion taps. [6.2.3]

The text that refers to the prospect of untapping should clear that up,
as well.