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Deck: A Double T

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Asnek

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:58:17 AM12/19/09
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Guys
I already played this deck some time before. i have earned some VP adn
as well gamewins but it's definitely not the always game win deck.
What really helped the deck is just adding only AUS minions beacuse
they increase bleed for Tariq and tegirius with anima gaterings. if
you want to have some more bleed potential exchange one tariq for one
more Sheila and add some Aire of elations inside.
in strong blocking enviroment lover down equipment and add some more
stalth. if you want to be more offensive with politics drop down some
actions and add Kine resources for more political damage.
other optional cards that i used to exchange in later rebuild are:
to drop down> Alastor, anima gathering, vast wealth, gift of
expirience, depreavity, Mylan horseed, Misster Doorman
to add > Praxis> Istanbul (assamites get's one more vote with this one
so it's really usefull), Forgoten labyrinth, more Votercaps, some vote
push preferably Perfect paragon due to variability.

Deck Name : Double T
Author : Asnek
Description :

Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 3 max: 9 average: 6.66667
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3x Tegyrius, Vizier 9 AUS CEL FOR QUI pre Assamite:2
1x Tegyrius, Vizier Adv 9 AUS CEL FOR PRE QUI Assamite:2
3x Tariq, The Silent 7 AUS FOR OBF QUI cel Assamite:2
1x Tariq, The Silent Adv 7 AUS FOR OBF QUI cel Assamite:2
1x Sheila Mezarin 6 AUS PRE cel for !Toreador:2
1x Maldavis 4 AUS for pre Caitiff:3
1x Isabel de Leon 3 AUS Toreador:2
1x Zoe 3 AUS cel obf Malkavian:2

Library (90 cards)
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Action (14)
2x Anima Gathering
4x Enchant Kindred
4x Epiphany
2x Priority Shift
2x Summoning, The
Action Modifier (21)
2x Change of Target
4x Cloak the Gathering
3x Crocodile's Tongue
4x Forced March
4x Freak Drive
2x Veil the Legions
2x Voter Captivation
Ally (3)
2x Deviki Prasanta
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Combat (8)
2x Amaranth
2x Disguised Weapon
4x Majesty
Equipment (5)
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Changeling Skin Mask
1x Flamethrower
1x Ivory Bow
1x Kevlar Vest
Master (15)
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Celerity
1x Depravity
1x Fortitude
1x Gift of Experience
1x Monastery of Shadows
2x Obfuscate
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Presence
1x Vast Wealth
2x Villein
1x Yoruba Shrine
Political Action (6)
1x Alastor
1x Ancient Influence
2x Parity Shift
1x Rumors of Gehenna
1x Year of Fortune
Reaction (17)
1x Delaying Tactics
2x Forced Awakening
3x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
4x Telepathic Misdirection
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Retainer (1)
1x Mr. Winthrop

Any suggestions?

Pawel.Kukielczynski

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Dec 19, 2009, 10:19:31 AM12/19/09
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> Any suggestions?

None at all, such a brilliant deck builder as You surely has thought
about everything

The Lasombra

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Dec 19, 2009, 11:53:29 AM12/19/09
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I think Sheila is too large for your deck. I think you'd be better
served by another Auspex weenie.

>Library (90 cards)
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Action (14)
> 2x Anima Gathering
> 4x Enchant Kindred
> 4x Epiphany
> 2x Priority Shift
> 2x Summoning, The

>Ally (3)
> 2x Deviki Prasanta
> 1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

I'm not a fan of cards that most of the crypt can't play, so I'd
reconsider Enchant Kindred and perhaps consider Haqim's Law:
Leadership instead. Mylan can't be used on Merged Tegyrius nor can he
work with un-merged Tariq, so I'm fairly certain you could use your
time better by not including the 2 Summoning/3 Allies.

Merged Tariq is not red-list, so perhaps Priority Shift could become
pool damage instead? Kine Resources Contested? Secure Haven?

>Action Modifier (21)
> 2x Change of Target
> 4x Cloak the Gathering
> 3x Crocodile's Tongue
> 4x Forced March
> 4x Freak Drive
> 2x Veil the Legions
> 2x Voter Captivation

I'm not certain that the Change of Target's add enough options for you
to keep them. They might be better as two Lost in Crowds.

>Combat (8)
> 2x Amaranth
> 2x Disguised Weapon
> 4x Majesty

Wow. That is very low. I would guess that there are other more
aggressive combat decks with the vampires you are playing so that your
opponents over-estimate you?

>Equipment (5)
> 1x Bowl of Convergence
> 1x Changeling Skin Mask
> 1x Flamethrower
> 1x Ivory Bow
> 1x Kevlar Vest

>Master (15)
> 1x Anarch Troublemaker

Included primarily for the equipment destruction? I don't see a lot
of "lunge" ability here, if you can oust your prey with two bleeds of
2/3, then the stealth will get you by just as well as the Troublemaker
and you don't have to play the stealth in advance.

> 1x Celerity
> 1x Depravity
> 1x Fortitude
> 1x Gift of Experience
> 1x Monastery of Shadows
> 2x Obfuscate
> 1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
> 2x Presence
> 1x Vast Wealth
> 2x Villein
> 1x Yoruba Shrine

You have only 2 chances in 90 of regaining the pool spent on your
minions. In my experience that means you won't see either one when
you can actually use them to benefit. I'd either increase that number
or find a way to gain pool that is permanent and in play. Powerbase:
Chicago perhaps?

>Political Action (6)
> 1x Alastor
> 1x Ancient Influence
> 2x Parity Shift
> 1x Rumors of Gehenna
> 1x Year of Fortune

I don't object to any of these, but the table has to fall heavily in
your favor for the Alastor or Parity Shifts to pass. Do you find that
you are dropping them against others votes as often as you are calling
them?

>Reaction (17)
> 1x Delaying Tactics
> 2x Forced Awakening
> 3x My Enemy's Enemy
> 4x On the Qui Vive
> 4x Telepathic Misdirection
> 3x Wake with Evening's Freshness

I'd consider Eyes of Argus over the Wakes.

>Retainer (1)
> 1x Mr. Winthrop

>Any suggestions?

There are 15 decks with both T's archived here:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=Tegyrius+tariq&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1

and you'll find more on the Path of Blood. You might consider looking
at a few of them for suggestions or ideas.
http://thepathofblood.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=13
http://thepathofblood.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1069
http://thepathofblood.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=949


Carpe noctem.

The Lasombra

http://www.TheLasombra.com

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Now also selling boxes and individual cards.

XZealot

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Dec 19, 2009, 12:34:19 PM12/19/09
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Drop Sheila and add an extra copy of Zoe.

> Library (90 cards)
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Action (14)
>   2x Anima Gathering
>   4x Enchant Kindred
>   4x Epiphany
>   2x Priority Shift
>   2x Summoning, The

Drop the Enchant Kindreds, 2x Ephiphany, the priority shifts, and the
summonings.

That frees 10 cards

> Action Modifier (21)
>   2x Change of Target
>   4x Cloak the Gathering
>   3x Crocodile's Tongue
>   4x Forced March
>   4x Freak Drive
>   2x Veil the Legions
>   2x Voter Captivation

Drop the Change of Target, and the Voter Captivations.

That frees 4 cards

> Ally (3)
>   2x Deviki Prasanta
>   1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

> Combat (8)
>   2x Amaranth
>   2x Disguised Weapon
>   4x Majesty
> Equipment (5)
>   1x Bowl of Convergence
>   1x Changeling Skin Mask
>   1x Flamethrower
>   1x Ivory Bow
>   1x Kevlar Vest

Drop the flamethrower, and the Changeling Skin Mask.

That frees 2 cards

> Master (15)
>   1x Anarch Troublemaker
>   1x Celerity
>   1x Depravity
>   1x Fortitude
>   1x Gift of Experience
>   1x Monastery of Shadows
>   2x Obfuscate
>   1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
>   2x Presence
>   1x Vast Wealth
>   2x Villein
>   1x Yoruba Shrine

Drop all the Skill cards but 1x Celerity

That Frees up 5 cards

> Political Action (6)
>   1x Alastor
>   1x Ancient Influence
>   2x Parity Shift
>   1x Rumors of Gehenna
>   1x Year of Fortune

Drop all the political Actions, they generally won't pass.

That free's up 6 cards

> Reaction (17)
>   1x Delaying Tactics
>   2x Forced Awakening
>   3x My Enemy's Enemy
>   4x On the Qui Vive
>   4x Telepathic Misdirection
>   3x Wake with Evening's Freshness

The forced and wakes should be Eyes of Argus

> Retainer (1)
>   1x Mr. Winthrop
>
> Any suggestions?

I have eliminated 27 cards that are prayerish. the deck will work
fine at 63 cards.

you should use Truth in Blood + Pulse of Canaille to bleed, Psyches
for Combat, Prevention for Combat, Perfectionists to multiact. You
need to establish some permanent actions Rack, Haven Uncovered, High
Museum etc.

Matthew T. Morgan

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Dec 20, 2009, 11:01:33 AM12/20/09
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, XZealot wrote:

>> Any suggestions?
>
> I have eliminated 27 cards that are prayerish. the deck will work
> fine at 63 cards.

Wow, good work, man! Some might call you a butcher, but I see an artiste!

Juggernaut1981

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Dec 21, 2009, 12:00:53 AM12/21/09
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Foundation Art Exhibit?

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