Red List + any Ally + Left for Dead

[ira...@gmail.com]

Hello LSJ,

Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns
Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window
where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally
doesn't actually burn.

Assuming no, the same turn, Minion C rushes Ally A, and then Ally A
burns due to card text on Left for Dead. Do Trophies trigger now? I
believe the answer is yes, because it was part of a D action.

Thanks,
Ira

Left for Dead
Master: out-of-turn. Only usable as an ally is burned in combat.
Combat ends. Put this card on that ally; that ally is not burned. Put
one life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no life. Tap
the ally. If the ally with this card enters combat, he or she is
burned. Burn this card instead of untapping the ally during his or her
next untap phase.

1.6.2.3
Trophy: A trophy may be put into play using a master phase action (or
can be retrieved as listed under "Red List" in section 11). It has no
effect until it is moved to a vampire. When any vampire burns a Red
List minion in combat or as a (D) action (including diablerie), the
controller of the trophy may choose to move the trophy to that
vampire. Any number of trophies in play may be moved to the vampire in
this way (in addition to the single trophy that the vampire’s
controller may retrieve from her library, ash heap or hand). Once
placed on a vampire, a trophy cannot be moved again.

[LSJ]

ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello LSJ,
>
> Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns
> Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window
> where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally
> doesn't actually burn.

Correct. "Instead"

> Assuming no, the same turn, Minion C rushes Ally A, and then Ally A
> burns due to card text on Left for Dead. Do Trophies trigger now? I
> believe the answer is yes, because it was part of a D action.

The answer is yes, because it was in combat.

[Salem]

LSJ wrote:
> ira...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello LSJ,
>>
>> Say Ally A is Red List, and is rushed by Minion B. Minion B burns
>> Ally A in combat, so Meth A plays Left for Dead. Is there a window
>> where Trophies trigger? I believe the answer is no, because the Ally
>> doesn't actually burn.
>
> Correct. "Instead"

"Instead" doesn't actually appear in the relevant parts of the card text
quoted, only when talking about whether the ally untaps or not. However,
"that ally is not burned" does, which I assume pretty much covers it. :)

>>
>> Left for Dead
>> Master: out-of-turn. Only usable as an ally is burned in combat.
>> Combat ends. Put this card on that ally; that ally is not burned. Put
>> one life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no life. Tap
>> the ally. If the ally with this card enters combat, he or she is
>> burned. Burn this card instead of untapping the ally during his or her
>> next untap phase.
>>

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