What to genocide
Tom Kooij
Hi,
Tom-B has already genocided cockatrices but since he still has a magic
marker (50) and some useless scrolls to blank, he's wondering if he
shouldn't genocide a few other species?
Any *must genocides* ?
Tom-B
Thomas Pornin
In article <344356...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl>,
Tom Kooij <t.k...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>> Liches ("L") are often considered a good target for blessed genocide.
>
>Pardon my ignorance, but, what's the difference between uncursed and
>blessed genocide?
With a blessed scroll of genocide, you wipe out a whole class of monsters;
for instance, you type "L" and this deletes all liches, demiliches and
masterliches.
I usually genocide these ones, in that order:
-- all liches (L)
-- all eels (;)
-- mind flayers, or all humanoids (h) (depends whether the scroll is
blessed or not)
-- purple worms, or all worms (w)
-- dragons (D) (when I have all the intrinsics)(by the way, disintegration
resistance doesn't seem very important anyway, if all black dragons
have been wiped out)
-- quadrupeds (q) and giants (H) (when strength = 18/**) because they
need several hits to kill, and I hate losing time in the elemental
planes
This is exactly what did my knight that ascended last night. If you are
a wizard and wield Magicbane, you have a rather efficient protection
against liches, so you may decide not to wipe them out, and have some
fun with fireballs (liches are much sensitive to fire).
--Thomas Pornin
Matthias Oettl
Thomas Pornin wrote:
...
> -- dragons (D) (when I have all the intrinsics)(by the way, disintegration
> resistance doesn't seem very important anyway, if all black dragons
> have been wiped out)
I have a different opinion. Former i thought, hey cool let's geno
dragons. But two reasons against this: a D can be an ally in battle,
think of yourself surrounded by rodneY's nasties that he summons every
5 minutes on the way up and put on a =of conflict. (Saves some of your
wands). The other thing is that if you geno D more & will show up
instead (my experience in a game where i genocided almost everything)
and if you have all the intrinsics and / or reflection D will not
be much trouble.
Anyway, it depends on the personal playing style
Matthias
Carl Marg
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:23:10 +0200, Tom Kooij
<t.k...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>Pardon my ignorance, but, what's the difference between uncursed and
>blessed genocide?
Blessed = take out a class of monsters, like ALL dragons
I usually use a blessed scroll of genocide to take out trolls, because
they can be extremely bothersome especially in large numbers.
Carl
DrakeDenvr
In article <61vh2p$6...@sunsystem5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>, Christian
Stieber <sti...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
>
>Some people genocide rustmonsters, esp. in early stages of the game.
>
>
In the early stages of the game, I also like to genocide nymphs. They do
less permanent harm, but early on they can be really annoying.
Drake
Christian Stieber
Tom Kooij <t.kooij.r...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl> wrote:
> Any *must genocides* ?
Minflayers are generally considered a "must", because of their amnesia
attack.
Sea monsters (Krakens, eels --- all ;) are a good thing to get rid of
(via blessed genocide) unless they can't harm you.
Liches ("L") are often considered a good target for blessed genocide.
Some people genocide Vampires to get more Wraiths in graveyards.
Some people genocide rustmonsters, esp. in early stages of the game.
Some people genocide dragons --- after getting their intrinsics, of course.
Some people would like to genocide some crossfire monsters --- oops,
wrong newsgroup -:)
Christian
Tom Kooij
Christian Stieber wrote:
>
> Tom Kooij <t.kooij.r...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>
> > Any *must genocides* ?
>
>
> Liches ("L") are often considered a good target for blessed genocide.
Pardon my ignorance, but, what's the difference between uncursed and
blessed genocide?
Tom
Christian Stieber
cursed genocide: surrounds you with the monster you tried to genocide
uncursed genocide: genocides the monster you specify (e.g. "red dragon")
blessed genocide: genocides a _class_ of monsters (e.g. "dragons")
If you are using TTY display, a class of monsters are all monsters that
share the same letter, excluding special monsters that can't be genocided.
My port displays a list of classes for a blessed genocide, to remove
the last bit of tty dependency (of course, you can also try to guess the
classnames).
Christian
Thomas Pornin
In article <19971014171...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
DrakeDenvr <drake...@aol.com> wrote:
>In the early stages of the game, I also like to genocide nymphs. They do
>less permanent harm, but early on they can be really annoying.
Yes, but nymphs carry potions, which is good at the end, when you may need
many potions of holy water. Also, at low level, nymphs are good to help
you get rid of some cursed item.
And it is really frustrating to have a ring of teleport control and not
to find any nymph to eat.
--Thomas Pornin
Brian Richardson
Tom Kooij (t.k...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: Pardon my ignorance, but, what's the difference between uncursed and
: blessed genocide?
Blessed genocide scrolls are instantly recognisable once you read it.
It will ask you "What class of monsters do you wish to genocide?"
Here, you type in one letter or symbol that represents all the
monsters you don't like. Say you don't want to see any of those
darned orc swarms around anymore -- enter `o' and every race of orcs
will be annhilated. Careful, though, genocide too much, and you get
some of the classes you can't genocide -- & E A, and so on. These are
the really nasty monsters. Good choices for class genocides are:
; - If you don't have an oilskin cloak, wand of teleportation, or
something like that.
L - just because they have all sorts of mean and nasty attacks, though
mostly it's their cursing ability people hate
T - Olog Hai and rock trolls can really ruin your day, especially if
you're a low level barbarian doing the quest. This makes things
really easy.
' - Some people polypile excessively, and don't like to take on the
golems, choosing instead to fight random monsters
D - well, they're dragons -- pretty tough. Make sure you've got the
intrinsics, though, as they are 100% guaranteed from a dragon corpse
H - this affects only one really tough monster, though a brutal one.
IMHO, one of the strongest creatures that can still inflict noticable
damage on your -40AC. I don't however, as they often have useful wands of
digging. Again, ensure you have fire and cold res before doing this,
and max out your strength.
J - again, only one creature, but a nasty one, unless you have the
Vorpal Blade. (Read Lewis Carroll's 'Through the Looking Glass', or
'Jabberwocky' for information on the lore)
V - level drain sucks. Plus, more wraiths. Yummy! :)
Z - see latter half of above argument :)
P - I don't know anybody that hates black puddings enough to do this!
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|Tom-B has already genocided cockatrices but since he still has a magic
|marker (50) and some useless scrolls to blank, he's wondering if he
|shouldn't genocide a few other species?
|Any *must genocides* ?
In 3.2, mind flayers MUST DIE. If one hits you even once you lose
large numbers of level maps and identified items. (And Intelligence, but you
should have a unicorn horn by the time you see mind flayers so that's not a big
deal if you survive.) This is an incredible pain in the ass.
I usually take out L's just for their annoyance value, and I like to
nail V's and Z's to increase the wraith population. Cockatrices don't make the
list; I hardly ever die to them.
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TassleBur
I was wondering if you were to polymorph yourself into something besides @ and
genocided all @ would that get rid of the shopkeepers so you could take all
the stuff in shoppes or are shopkeepers immune to genocide or will the shops
just not get generated?
TassleBur
oh yeah or would it just kill you too because you started as a @
Kender Dragon (R. Serena Wakefield)
My spies inform me that, on Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:15:30 +0200, Tom Kooij
<t.kooij.r...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl>, hiding under the
bedcovers, scribbled in the following in their diary:
>Tom-B has already genocided cockatrices but since he still has a magic
>marker (50) and some useless scrolls to blank, he's wondering if he
>shouldn't genocide a few other species?
>Any *must genocides* ?
Well, I always bless the magic marker before beginning to write, so I
knock out entire monster classes. I wouldn't genocide cockatrices,
either, unless you're using the trick that was just posted here
(polymorphing into a cockatrice, laying lots of eggs, then changing
back and genociding c's before the eggs hatch). Although, if you have
a ring of conflict and a CURSED scroll of genocide, it's a lot of fun
to march into the Astral Plane leading an army of angry chickens!
First go the ;'s -- eels. There have just been too many times I've
accidentally brushed past some water and been grabbed (or instantly
killed) by packs and packs of spontaneously generated eels. I would
classify the ;'s as the only monster you MUST genocide to solve the
game, unless you have many many cans of grease available.
Next I take out the L's. Liches throw those curses around just too
easily, and you encounter them before you've finished your ascension
kit. Very aggravating, especially if they hit your luckstone.
Lastly I kill off mind flayers, either taking all of those annoying
h's with them or with just an uncursed scroll. Any monster that can
knock points off of your attributes is bad news.
If you have extra scrolls of genocide lying around, you might try
eliminating some types of undead other than wraiths. Killing off Z's
and V's will mean more W's in graveyards and morgues, and since eating
a wraith's corpse gives you a free experience level it's well worth
the two blessed scrolls it will cost to set it up.
You may also want to bring some scrolls of genocide with you to the
elemental planes. When you arrive on the Air and Fire planes, it's
handy to be able to see what they're throwing at you and kill it off
then. (If you do it prematurely, the game will simply put different
monsters there, but if the level's already been seeded and you clear
it out it won't re-seed for a while.)
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>killed) by packs and packs of spontaneously generated eels. I would
>classify the ;'s as the only monster you MUST genocide to solve the
>game, unless you have many many cans of grease available.
An oilskin cloak make them a trivial problem.
>Next I take out the L's. Liches throw those curses around just too
>easily, and you encounter them before you've finished your ascension
>kit. Very aggravating, especially if they hit your luckstone.
True. I also discovered that they can summon Demogorgon. Yuk!
>Lastly I kill off mind flayers, either taking all of those annoying
>h's with them or with just an uncursed scroll. Any monster that can
>knock points off of your attributes is bad news.
Except for a couple "challenge" games I have always nailed these guys
ahead of anything else. I really hate them deeply.
>If you have extra scrolls of genocide lying around, you might try
>eliminating some types of undead other than wraiths. Killing off Z's
>and V's will mean more W's in graveyards and morgues, and since eating
Tried that once and got lots of extra monsters but no noticable
increase in wraiths. Bummer.
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Didn't try it out, but you aren't polied forever, that means you'd
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Christian Stieber
Kender Dragon (R. Serena Wakefield) <rai...@HOOPAK.gate.net> wrote:
> Lastly I kill off mind flayers, either taking all of those annoying
> h's with them or with just an uncursed scroll. Any monster that can
> knock points off of your attributes is bad news.
That's not the real problem. Mindflayers are really bad because of
their amnesia attack: you can restore stats easily with a unicorn
horn, but you cannot restore the lost knowledge (maps, spell,
identified objects) except doing it the hard way.
Christian
Christian Stieber
Mikael Halila <mikael...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
> "You attract a water nymph!" --more--
> "The water nymph steals a cursed iron ball."
> Ahhhh..... Happened to me...um...day before yesterday. Really took a load
> off my back!
You can feed it to a rustmonster, too.
> That's how it goes for me! BTW, can you get teleportitis (whatever) from
> eating tengus?
Yes.
Christian
Irina Rempt
Brian Richardson (br...@oisin.cuug.ab.ca) wrote:
> P - I don't know anybody that hates black puddings enough to do this!
Pleased to meet you :-)
Now you know me: I don't only do P when I get the chance (I loathe
monsters that make my things rot, it's the *brown* puddings that i
can't stand) but also b (gelatinous cubes, quivering blobs) and j
run into blue, ochre and spotted jellies once too often).
I'd rather have a monster with some more shape to it, thank you.
Alyse, killed by a spotted jelly
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Mikael Halila
> Yes, but nymphs carry potions, which is good at the end, when you may
need
> many potions of holy water. Also, at low level, nymphs are good to help
> you get rid of some cursed item.
"You attract a water nymph!" --more--
"The water nymph steals a cursed iron ball."
Ahhhh..... Happened to me...um...day before yesterday. Really took a load
off my back!
> And it is really frustrating to have a ring of teleport control and not
> to find any nymph to eat.
Murphy's Law of Nethack:
When you have teleport control, eating nymphs will never make you feel
jumpy.
That's how it goes for me! BTW, can you get teleportitis (whatever) from
eating tengus?
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cam and or nenette remove trailing 666
I haven't tried it myself, but i seem to recall somebody here saying
that certain classes couldn't be genocided because of unique members
of the class. If you could genocide @'s, you would take rodneY with
you, so the genocide likely wouldn't work.
cheers,
cam
DClevel777
>>TassleBur wrote:
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you were to polymorph yourself into >>>something besides
@ and genocided all @ would that get rid >>>of the shopkeepers so you could
take all the stuff in shoppes >>>or are shopkeepers immune to genocide or
will the shops
>>> just not get generated?
>>>Didn't try it out, but you aren't polied forever, that means >>>you'd die if
you poly back to @.
>I haven't tried it myself, but i seem to recall somebody here >saying that
certain classes couldn't be genocided because of >unique members of the class.
If you could genocide @'s, you >would take rodneY with you, so the genocide
likely wouldn't >work.
>cheers,
>cam
If you pick a symbol (ex. @) it genocides all those things represented by the
symbol that CAN be genocided and kills 'em, but it also tells you "you aren't
permitted to genocide X"
(X being whatever unique or non-genocidable memebers are represented by the
symbol)
For example if you pick "V" it kills all vampires and vampire lords, but tells
you that "you aren't permitted to genocide Vlad"
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cam and or nenette remove trailing 666
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:46:39 GMT, 7173...@ican.net (cam and or
nenette remove trailing 666) wrote:
>
>I haven't tried it myself, but i seem to recall somebody here saying
>that certain classes couldn't be genocided because of unique members
>of the class. If you could genocide @'s, you would take rodneY with
>you, so the genocide likely wouldn't work.
I just tested it myself. I polymorphed into a grey dragon and then
genocided @'s. It won't let you genocide a heck of a lot of things,
but 13 classes of monster get genocided, including whatever your class
happens to be. You get the message "You feel dead inside", and when
you return to your own skin, you die.
cheers,
cam
Sascha
Mikael Halila wrote on 15 Oct 1997 12:41:38 GMT :
> BTW, can you get teleportitis (whatever) from
> eating tengus?
yes, as well as teleport control. The tengu is the only monster (besides
the Wiz) that confers teleport control.
You can get teleportitis from leprechauns too.
Sascha
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In article <623ii0$l...@kew.globalnet.co.uk>, calma...@globalnet.co.uk
says...
>
>usually c,d,e,f,g,h,j,l,n,q,v,w,x,y,P,R,S,U,W (I've never seen a wraith
>leave a corpse under any circumstances of death at all)
Well quit killing them yourself! I got 7 out of the VoD my last ascension
by taming a vampire lord (he won't eat 'em). Did the same thing on the
priest's quest this game, must have got a dozen (XL 27 and I'm not to
Medusa yet!). I've used conflict in the past, though I've never tried
leading them up stairs.
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Wes Irby wrote:
> Well quit killing them yourself! I got 7 out of the VoD my last ascension
> by taming a vampire lord (he won't eat 'em). Did the same thing on the
> priest's quest this game, must have got a dozen (XL 27 and I'm not to
> Medusa yet!). I've used conflict in the past, though I've never tried
> leading them up stairs.
My current game is a priest, one dungeon level above the lady with the
funny hair. I had no problem reaching XP level 30 during the quest
even though I didn't have a pet and fried all the undead with Mojo.
SPOILER AHEAD:
Luckily I entered the quest during daytime, wearing elven boots. All
the undead were fast asleep and didn't notice their comrades getting
nuked one square away. It might have been boring if it hadn't been my
first time on the priest's quest (and my second finished quest all
around), so instead I was quite the nervous one...
Good hacking,
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Tom Calman
Tom Kooij wrote in article <34432A...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl>...
>Hi,
>
>Tom-B has already genocided cockatrices but since he still has a magic
>marker (50) and some useless scrolls to blank, he's wondering if he
>shouldn't genocide a few other species?
>
>Any *must genocides* ?
>
>Tom-B
Speaking personally, I really love genociding things, endlessly polypile
tools for markers + all I can find in shops, bones, etc., blank 20+ scrolls,
dip 'em in a potion of holy water, and write endless scrolls of genocide. I
always get rid of T, L, V, 'cos I hate them, then anything that can cause
problems (e.g. shock attack, sickness attack, stealing things, anything),
Left hand of Xenu
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:09:14 +0100, Tom Calman Pronounced:
>usually c,d,e,f,g,h,j,l,n,q,v,w,x,y,P,R,S,U,W (I've never seen a wraith
>leave a corpse under any circumstances of death at all)
They often don't on a graveyard level but it is common anywhere
else. I would definitely not genocide them, they are usually good for
several levels of experience. If you lure them up the stairs they will
put you over level 30 experience just from the valley of the dead
alone, although that is somewhat tedious work and I don't usually
bother anymore.
Drew Eckhardt
In article <34432A...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl>,
Tom Kooij <t.kooij.r...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl> wrote:
>Hi,
>Tom-B has already genocided cockatrices
Bad idea. If you keep a couple of lizard corpses, a range weapon,
and a looking glass, cockatrices are not dangerous to you. When
combined with a pair of gloves, a rubber chicken can be _very_ useful
when you're dealing with nasty monsters - I've made statuaries with
over 50 Keystone Kops, my very own Rodney and Bealzebub statues,
etc.
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In article <6256td$c...@sf18.dseg.ti.com>,
Wes Irby <w-irby*NOSPAM*@ti.com> wrote:
>In article <623ii0$l...@kew.globalnet.co.uk>, calma...@globalnet.co.uk
>says...
>>
>>leave a corpse under any circumstances of death at all)
>
>by taming a vampire lord (he won't eat 'em). Did the same thing on the
>priest's quest this game, must have got a dozen (XL 27 and I'm not to
>Medusa yet!). I've used conflict in the past, though I've never tried
>leading them up stairs.
In my current game (now in castle) I encountered three graveyards with a
total of 14 wraiths. I led them all upstairs and killed them myself, and
only 2 failed to leave corpses. Coupled with a few potions of gain level,
my elf is now XL29!
Samppa
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cam and or nenette remove trailing 666 (7173...@ican.net) wrote:
: happens to be. You get the message "You feel dead inside", and when
: you return to your own skin, you die.
And if you quit the game before returning to your genocided human form,
you get 'quit while already on Charon's boat'.
Tipu
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On 15 Oct 1997 12:41:38 GMT, "Mikael Halila"
<mikael...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
>
>"You attract a water nymph!" --more--
>"The water nymph steals a cursed iron ball."
>
>Ahhhh..... Happened to me...um...day before yesterday. Really took a load
>off my back!
You attract a water nymph! --More--
The water nymph smiles seductively at you.--More--
The water nymph steals your weapon! --More--
The water nymph steals your other weapon! --More--
The water nymph steals the most useless weapon in the game, Werebane!
--More--
The water nymph steals a *.helmet --More--
The water nymph steals a *.armor --More--
<repeat several times>
The water nymph steals a *.scroll --More--
<repeat several times>
The water nymph steals a *. potion <repeat several times>
The water nymph steals a wand <repeat several times>
The water nymph steals a *.tool <repeat several times>
The water nymph steals <whatever else you have left>
All this in one turn, then she teleports away, and I'm left stark
raving naked in an empty room, feeling a draft. Monsters snicker at
me, succubi refuse to be seen with me, my dog tries to yiff my leg,
shopkeepers say 'No shirt, no shoes, no service'.
This happens to me about every third game. And no, I'm not burdened,
and generally one of the wands she's stolen is a wand of speed
monster, so I'm fast...
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StarChaser wrote:
> shopkeepers say 'No shirt, no shoes, no service'.
>
This just YAFM, never had this one before. :)
Matthias
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<grin> Neither had I, but I think it'd be a good one to add..
Mikael Halila
Kender Dragon (R. Serena Wakefield) <rai...@HOOPAK.gate.net> kirjoitti
artikkelissa <34443015...@news.gate.net>...
> My spies inform me that, on Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:15:30 +0200, Tom Kooij
> <t.kooij.r...@remove.this.lr.tudelft.nl>, hiding under the
> bedcovers, scribbled in the following in their diary:
>
> >marker (50) and some useless scrolls to blank, he's wondering if he
> >shouldn't genocide a few other species?
<snip>
> First go the ;'s -- eels. There have just been too many times I've
> accidentally brushed past some water and been grabbed (or instantly
> killed) by packs and packs of spontaneously generated eels. I would
> classify the ;'s as the only monster you MUST genocide to solve the
> game, unless you have many many cans of grease available.
I definitely agree. They nailed Sarcana-V, and she was the best character I
ever had!
<snip about liches>
> Lastly I kill off mind flayers, either taking all of those annoying
> h's with them or with just an uncursed scroll. Any monster that can
> knock points off of your attributes is bad news.
I wouldn't genocide h:s early in the game, since then you'll miss out on
the iron shoes, pick-axes and dwarvish mithril-coats. A dwarvish
mithril-coat is the best armor short of a DSM.
Mikael Halila
Sascha <NOSPAM....@geocities.com> kirjoitti artikkelissa
<34458...@news.piro.net>...
> Mikael Halila wrote on 15 Oct 1997 12:41:38 GMT :
>
> > BTW, can you get teleportitis (whatever) from
> > eating tengus?
>
> yes, as well as teleport control. The tengu is the only monster (besides
> the Wiz) that confers teleport control.
>
> You can get teleportitis from leprechauns too.
>
Yeah, and nymphs.
StarChaser <Anti spam feature in address.>
On 18 Oct 1997 01:26:44 -0600, jmc...@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Jason
F. McBrayer) wrote:
>>>>>> "oc" == obsidian@post13 com (StarChaser <<Anti spam feature in address.>)> writes:
>
>oc> The water nymph steals the most useless weapon in the game,
>oc> Werebane!
>
>Werebane is far from useless. It's an artifact silver saber, 'nuff
>said.
Thought it was just a longsword, and that the only artifact silver
saber was Greyswandir...I've had it before, and usually dump
it...<Working on ascending W's, so use Magicbane as my weapon...>
Wes Irby
In article <jmcbray3e...@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>,
jmc...@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu says...
>
>>>>>> "oc" == obsidian@post13 com (StarChaser <<Anti spam feature in
address.>)>
> writes:
>
>oc> The water nymph steals the most useless weapon in the game,
>oc> Werebane!
>
>Werebane is far from useless. It's an artifact silver saber, 'nuff
>said.
I second that! Recently ascended an archeologist who fought
with the +7 Werebane but carried Magicbane between fights. I
think it only functioned like a +7 silver saber except against
werecreatures, but a +7 silver saber is mighty fine!
Mike Stevenson
> >> I was wondering if you were to polymorph yourself into something besides @ and
> >> genocided all @ would that get rid of the shopkeepers so you could take all
> >> the stuff in shoppes or are shopkeepers immune to genocide or will the shops
> >> just not get generated?
Crom intones, "No, mortal, that shall not be done!"
Shopkeepers are most definitely non-genocidable. I can't say for
certain, but I don't think that anything represented by @ can be
genocided. You could always try, however. I think you get another
chance if you try to genocide something that can't be. It works well
with b?oGen.
Wiped out all vampires--more--
Wiped out all vampire lords--more--
Could not genocide Vlad the Impaler.
(are there any other things represented by V? there are vogons in
NHTNG, but not so in vanilla).
TassleBur
I tried it and you can genocide the elves mentioned earlier
>Well, you can genocide green-, grey- and wood-elves
all the army men (captain, sergeant, etc.) but that's about all It won't let
you genocide the classes either.
Well all except yours of course
You can't genocide barbarians -more-
...
You genocide all wizards -more-
you die
GRRRR!
Mikael Halila
Mike Stevenson <stev...@bucknell.edu.removetoreply> kirjoitti artikkelissa
<344BEE...@bucknell.edu.removetoreply>...
> > >> I was wondering if you were to polymorph yourself into something
besides @ and
> > >> genocided all @ would that get rid of the shopkeepers so you could
take all
> > >> the stuff in shoppes or are shopkeepers immune to genocide or will
the shops
> > >> just not get generated?
>
> Crom intones, "No, mortal, that shall not be done!"
>
> Shopkeepers are most definitely non-genocidable. I can't say for
> certain, but I don't think that anything represented by @ can be
> genocided. You could always try, however. I think you get another
> chance if you try to genocide something that can't be. It works well
> with b?oGen.
Well, you can genocide green-, grey- and wood-elves, ninjas and such, but
shopkeepers, Quest nemesi and leaders and other special characters are
non-genocidable. I think you can genocide yourself...
Richard Giaimo
Mikael Halila wrote in message <01bcde37$4e3b2dc0$dbfbfbc2@pentti>...
>> Shopkeepers are most definitely non-genocidable. I can't say for
>> certain, but I don't think that anything represented by @ can be
>> genocided. You could always try, however. I think you get another
>> chance if you try to genocide something that can't be. It works well
>> with b?oGen.
>
>Well, you can genocide green-, grey- and wood-elves, ninjas and such, but
>shopkeepers, Quest nemesi and leaders and other special characters are
>non-genocidable. I think you can genocide yourself...
>
Why did the Dev-Team decide that you can genocide yourself even though you
are a unique named character? Also, what happens if you attempt to
polymorph into a genocided monster?
--Daniel
>--
>Mikael
>--
>"Blessed are the iron-handed, for the unfit shall flee before them
> -Cursed are the poor in spirit, for they shall be spat upon!"
>
>-The Book of Satan, V : 5
P.S. Where does this .sig file come from? Did you make it up, or is it in
some book?
cam and or nenette remove trailing 666
On 16 Oct 1997 07:27:31 GMT, atia...@cc.hut.fi (Antti Tiainen) wrote:
>
>And if you quit the game before returning to your genocided human form,
>you get 'quit while already on Charon's boat'.
That is yet another example of the incredible detail of this game. I
love it!
cheers,
cam
Timo A. Nieminen
Well, I always try to genocide mind flayers asap, and L (liches) too.
It's no fun having your brains sucked out or having stuff cursed. It
would also be useful to genocide all fire monsters, so your scrolls
don't burn up, but you can't get them all. Most of the other monsters
you can get rid of with a weapon. I genocided cockatrices once, and
regretted it immediately when the thought of rubber chickens went
through my head.
Timo
Miklos Donders
In article <626453$l...@nntp.hut.fi>, t...@cc.hut.fi (Samuli Takala) writes:
hem up stairs.
>
>In my current game (now in castle) I encountered three graveyards with a
>total of 14 wraiths. I led them all upstairs and killed them myself, and
>only 2 failed to leave corpses. Coupled with a few potions of gain level,
>my elf is now XL29!
Does leading them upstairs improve the chances of the wraith leaving a corpse?!?!
Miklos
Richard Giaimo
Miklos Donders wrote in message <62psuj$c71$2...@pandora.cs.utwente.nl>...
Yes. I think the chances of a wraith leaving a corpse are:
killed by you on a non-graveyard level ----- 1/2
killed by a trap, other monster, etc... on a non-graveyard level ----- 2/3
killed by you on a graveyard level ----- 1/12
killed by a trap, other monster, etc... on a graveyard level ----- 2/9
So, you see, there is a much better chance of a wraith leaving a corpse if
you lead it off the graveyard level. There is an even better chance if you
can weaken it so that it has only a few hit points and then lead it over a
trap on the previouse level.
>Miklos
>
Sascha
Paul Broe wrote on Sat, 25 Oct 1997 04:31:57 GMT :
> What would happen if you polymorph into something else then genocide @
> right before #offering the amulet? (Probably yet another message
> rarely seen...)
and YASD if you die because of a system shock!
Sascha
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In article <3452a...@news.piro.net>,
NOSPAM....@geocities.com (Sascha) wrote:
>
> Paul Broe wrote on Sat, 25 Oct 1997 04:31:57 GMT :
>
> > What would happen if you polymorph into something else then genocide @
> > right before #offering the amulet? (Probably yet another message
> > rarely seen...)
>
> and YASD if you die because of a system shock!
Don't you only get system shock from an uncontrolled polymorph? Do you
mean a sudden "unpolymorph", which can happen at any time?
Hmm, what if you're playing a priest? You should clear out all those
nasty humans from the astral plane, with the exception of the "high
priests"? I've got to try that.
Charles
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