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kcolrawyksthgin

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:17:27 PM2/14/02
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I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
to know what people think now.

---
Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
wish?"

Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
to show up, for what DO you wish?
---

These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
holding.


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Sam Dennis

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:33:42 PM2/14/02
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kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
> to know what people think now.
>
> ---
> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
> just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
> know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
> from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
> wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
> wish?"
>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
> to show up, for what DO you wish?
> ---
>
> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
> ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
> holding.

So lifesaving and ESP don't strike you as desirable? Or, say, a unicorn horn?

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kcolrawyksthgin

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:42:13 PM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:33:42 +0000 (UTC),
s...@malfunction.screaming.net (Sam Dennis) wrote:

>So lifesaving and ESP don't strike you as desirable? Or, say, a unicorn horn?

ESP, no... I don't want to sense everywhere any sort of life form
is around me. And the problem with lifesaving is that I know
myself. I know the one time i didn't wear the amulet, I'd get hit
by a car.

I didn't think of, and will add to my list, "blessed +2 unicorn
horn".

Sam Dennis

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Feb 14, 2002, 6:03:37 PM2/14/02
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kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:33:42 +0000 (UTC),
> s...@malfunction.screaming.net (Sam Dennis) wrote:
>
>>So lifesaving and ESP don't strike you as desirable? Or, say, a unicorn horn?
>
> ESP, no... I don't want to sense everywhere any sort of life form
> is around me. And the problem with lifesaving is that I know
> myself. I know the one time i didn't wear the amulet, I'd get hit
> by a car.
>
> I didn't think of, and will add to my list, "blessed +2 unicorn
> horn".

Now that I think about it, there's a certain appeal to ODSM. Not having to
sleep would be pretty nice, pity about the weight.

A cloak of invisibility has countless RL uses, anything of levitation sounds
good to me, teleportation would be good if only you could have TC as well, a
nethack-style skeleton key would be incredible, as would a magic marker, but
what many of us would probably benefit most from is an old-fashioned ring of
adornment. ;)

Anyway, as you said, it's a silly question.

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Mulari

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Feb 14, 2002, 7:07:11 PM2/14/02
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Amulet of Yendor

The price of it would skyrocket on ebay.

But seriously..
a ring of conflict.

Jonathan Ellis

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Feb 14, 2002, 8:05:54 PM2/14/02
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Sam Dennis wrote in message
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An amulet of life saving will save your live *once*.
A pair of speed boots (even if cursed) will save your life *many
times*.

If I haven't got speed boots yet, my first wish ALWAYS goes on
them. Even above items that grant magic resistance... and the next thing
to wish for is a magic-resistance-granting item if I haven't got one.

Jonathan.

nyra

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Feb 14, 2002, 7:49:01 PM2/14/02
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Sam Dennis schrieb:
>
> kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
[being granted _one_ wish in RL]

> > for what DO you wish?
> > ---
> >
> > These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
> > ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
> > holding.
>
> So lifesaving and ESP don't strike you as desirable? Or, say, a unicorn horn?

If i wished for a unicorn horn, i'd likely get the thing that
was sold as the "genuine" horn for centuries - a narwal tooth.
Lifesaving, well, if you're 85 years old and very weak and ill,
having your life saved from a heart attack _once_ won't be such
a great bonus, eh? And that's a rather likely sort of death.

I'd be tempted to try for a black dragon scale mail, but i don't
think we've got the proper sort of sink around here. Wishing for
three cockatrice eggs and smuggling them into packages of eggs
in the local supermarket could be interesting, if rather mean.
If i could get two items, i'd go for a ring of polymorph and one
of polymorph control[1], but with only one wish?

Jumping boots and an amulet of magical breathing are strong
contenders. Other options would be: ring of regeneration, ring
of teleportation, ring of invisibility. And of course skeleton
keys - unlock every door or compartment. Finally, the easy way
out: maximum number of zorkmids allowed, or three diamonds.

But what i would really wish for would be a blessed ring of
levitation.

[1] And with three wishes, i'd take a blessed figurine of a
*cubus[1a], a leash and a bullwhip ;)
[1a] but whether i'd take a succubus or an incubus i'd have to
decide on a whim.

Archon

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Feb 14, 2002, 10:00:16 PM2/14/02
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"Mulari" <jani....@satabaana.net> wrote in message
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that would be fun

I'd opt for gaultlets of power or a ring of invisibility


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Cyde Weys

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Feb 14, 2002, 9:23:57 PM2/14/02
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"kcolrawyksthgin" <kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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I think I'd go for a few blessed potions of holy water. Why? Priests and
ministers in today's world claim to have it, but they don't really. I'd
love to be able to bless my clothes, for example. I wonder what cool
effects that would provide.


Mark Grant

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Feb 14, 2002, 9:32:14 PM2/14/02
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:17:27 GMT, kcolraw...@attbi.com
(kcolrawyksthgin) wrote:

>I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
>to know what people think now.
>
>---
>Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
>just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
>know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
>from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
>wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
>wish?"
>
>Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
>to show up, for what DO you wish?
>---
>
>These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
>ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
>holding.

blessed figurine of a sexy young brunette.. or else perhaps a blessed
spellbook of charm.. choices choices..

Q

Mark Grant

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Feb 14, 2002, 9:45:57 PM2/14/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:23:57 GMT, "Cyde Weys" <vze2...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>I think I'd go for a few blessed potions of holy water. Why? Priests and
>ministers in today's world claim to have it, but they don't really. I'd
>love to be able to bless my clothes, for example. I wonder what cool
>effects that would provide.

Hmm.. Underwear could adjust itself!

Jim

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"kcolrawyksthgin" <kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Definately the Finger of Death. (In this fantasy world, all spells have
0% fail rate)
I can already imagine the look on the boss's face when I give him THAT
finger.

>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
> to show up, for what DO you wish?
> ---


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Jason Short

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Feb 15, 2002, 1:42:10 AM2/15/02
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kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
> to know what people think now.
>
> ---
> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
> just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
> know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
> from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
> wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
> wish?"
>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
> to show up, for what DO you wish?
> ---
>
> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
> ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
> holding.
Those are pretty good choices.

Someone suggested wishing for the Amulet of Yendor, but of course if you
tried that you'd only get a cheap plastic imitation.

Someone else suggested wishing for money or gems, but I think a good
magical item would be worth a lot more than you could wish for straight-up.

ODSM would be a solid choice - having DSM would just be _cool_, and (in
theory) never having to sleep would be extemely convenient. OTOH, a
ring of free action is a bit easier to carry around.

As far as all the other suggestions go, I think there are quest
artifacts that could do better. Why wish for a ring of regeneration
when you could have the Staff of Aesculapious?

But, I have to agree with the person who suggested holy water. Why?
Because unlike every other wish I can think of, it can propogate itself.
You could make a quick killing selling holy water to anyone and
everyone, and after a short time everyone would have all they need.
Perhaps some communities would even have holy water on tap.

jason

Intoxicated astral medic

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Feb 15, 2002, 3:02:20 AM2/15/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:32:14 GMT, Mark Grant <qal...@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:

I think that choice would be made by what class you would be
classified in in RL, your Int and Wis.
Hmm

Russell (My RL name) the Rambler St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8
Dlvl:0 $1229 HP:20(20) Pw:10(10) Ac:8 Exp:3 T:<large number>

I personally would go for the charm spellbook, be wonderful in a
violent situation, or any situation with living beings for that
matter.

Sir Nobody the Tourist

Tina Hall

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Feb 15, 2002, 7:30:11 AM2/15/02
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Nyra wrote:
> Sam Dennis schrieb:
> > kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> [being granted _one_ wish in RL]

> > > for what DO you wish?
>

> I'd be tempted to try for a black dragon scale mail, but i
> don't think we've got the proper sort of sink around here.

(Some hard thinking trying to figure out what you mean.)
Polymorphing into a black dragon is your goal? Who would you
disintegrate?

> Wishing for three cockatrice eggs and smuggling them into
> packages of eggs in the local supermarket could be
> interesting, if rather mean.

Certainly, and not even a specific target. If anything, throwing
them at certain people might be more useful.

> If i could get two items, i'd go for a ring of polymorph and
> one of polymorph control[1], but with only one wish?

What would you polymorph into?

> Jumping boots and an amulet of magical breathing are strong
> contenders.

What would you use them for?

> Other options would be: ring of regeneration,

Impractical, with the higher hunger, IMO.

> ring of teleportation,

Could certainly produce a few YAFM without TC. ;)

> ring of invisibility.

Now that would be fun. :)

> And of course skeleton keys - unlock every door or compartment.

Better with the =oI, as otherwise one would likely get into
trouble... ;)

> But what i would really wish for would be a blessed ring of
> levitation.

Depends on how that would work in RL. How do you get about with
levitation? It doesn't lessen your hunger so I'd guess you'd have
to do some weird swimming motions that are just as strenuous as
walking, no gain...

> [1] And with three wishes, i'd take a blessed figurine of a
> *cubus[1a], a leash and a bullwhip ;)
> [1a] but whether i'd take a succubus or an incubus i'd have to
> decide on a whim.

<g>

An amulet of unchanging would be cool, but I don't really need
that and would rather go for the Eye of the Aethiopica (bugger if
I haven't got any spoilers with me to check whether that's
actually spelled right), that, or the Orb of Fate (whichever
would let me teleport around into places I've been in that don't
have to be on another planet, as I'm lacking the latter... ;) ).
An [S] "oFly would be nice too, if I can't get a tame saddled
silver dragon.

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Jacco

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Feb 15, 2002, 8:38:25 AM2/15/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:30:11 +0100, Tina Hall engraved in the dust:

> An amulet of unchanging would be cool, but I don't really need that and
> would rather go for the Eye of the Aethiopica (bugger if I haven't got
> any spoilers with me to check whether that's actually spelled right),
> that, or the Orb of Fate (whichever would let me teleport around into
> places I've been in that don't have to be on another planet, as I'm
> lacking the latter... ;) ). An [S] "oFly would be nice too, if I can't
> get a tame saddled silver dragon.
>

Which will be named Wawag of course?

I would like the teleporting around bit too, easy to go shopping just
before the shops close.

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David Damerell

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Feb 15, 2002, 8:40:00 AM2/15/02
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kcolrawyksthgin <kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
>just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
>know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
>from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
>wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
>wish?"

Same as last time; blessed amulet of life saving. Not a hard choice.
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David Damerell

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Feb 15, 2002, 8:41:16 AM2/15/02
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nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Lifesaving, well, if you're 85 years old and very weak and ill,
>having your life saved from a heart attack _once_ won't be such
>a great bonus, eh? And that's a rather likely sort of death.

In general, using up an AoLS completely frees you from the related
condition.

Richard Bos

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Feb 15, 2002, 9:13:31 AM2/15/02
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David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >Lifesaving, well, if you're 85 years old and very weak and ill,
> >having your life saved from a heart attack _once_ won't be such
> >a great bonus, eh? And that's a rather likely sort of death.
>
> In general, using up an AoLS completely frees you from the related
> condition.

Myeah, but what's the use of being saved from a coronary if your lungs
only have a couple more years to go? I'd rather have something that
makes me enjoy my life more before that age.
Buggered if I can think of what, though. Everything mentioned so far
seems to be of limited interest to me. Maybe a blessed +5 helm of
brilliance?

Richard

Mark Grant

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Feb 15, 2002, 10:12:04 AM2/15/02
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:49:01 +0100, nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:

>[1] And with three wishes, i'd take a blessed figurine of a
>*cubus[1a], a leash and a bullwhip ;)
>[1a] but whether i'd take a succubus or an incubus i'd have to
>decide on a whim.

Buy a bullwhip and take one of each.

Tina Hall

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Intoxicated astral medic wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:32:14 GMT, Mark Grant
> <qal...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

[RL wish]

> >blessed figurine of a sexy young brunette.. or else perhaps a
> >blessed spellbook of charm.. choices choices..
>
> I think that choice would be made by what class you would be
> classified in in RL, your Int and Wis.
> Hmm
>
> Russell (My RL name) the Rambler St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6
> Ch:8 Dlvl:0 $1229 HP:20(20) Pw:10(10) Ac:8 Exp:3 T:<large
> number>

Hey, I like that. Good stuff for a sig. :)

> I personally would go for the charm spellbook, be wonderful in
> a violent situation, or any situation with living beings for
> that matter.

That is a good idea. But where to get the power to cast that?

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Mikael Halila

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Feb 15, 2002, 12:44:10 PM2/15/02
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I'd never waste a wish on a unicorn horn; you *always* run into a
unicorn!

As for wishes IRL... I'd wish for a blessed ring of invisibility, but
then I'd get a golden ring and big, big trouble... :)

Mikael Halila
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Tina Hall

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Feb 15, 2002, 1:30:25 PM2/15/02
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Jacco wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:30:11 +0100, Tina Hall engraved in the
> dust:
>
> > An amulet of unchanging would be cool, but I don't really
> > need that and would rather go for the Eye of the Aethiopica
> > (bugger if I haven't got any spoilers with me to check
> > whether that's actually spelled right), that, or the Orb of
> > Fate (whichever would let me teleport around into places
> > I've been in that don't have to be on another planet, as I'm
> > lacking the latter... ;) ). An [S] "oFly would be nice too,
> > if I can't get a tame saddled silver dragon.
> >
> Which will be named Wawag of course?

<g> Possibly. Though in real RL I probably wouldn't use a name of
often-killed game pets (and the other way round). Bad omen and
superstition... :)

> I would like the teleporting around bit too, easy to go
> shopping just before the shops close.

Or visiting friends that have moved from a 20 (slow) walk away to
somewhere at the end of the world that takes an hour with the
tram to get there. And of course save any other time-wasting trip
anywhere.

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David Goldfarb

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Feb 15, 2002, 2:33:51 PM2/15/02
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In article <qcw*-p0...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,

David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Lifesaving, well, if you're 85 years old and very weak and ill,
>>having your life saved from a heart attack _once_ won't be such
>>a great bonus, eh? And that's a rather likely sort of death.
>
>In general, using up an AoLS completely frees you from the related
>condition.

With the exception of brainlessness.

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Mark Grant

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Feb 15, 2002, 2:54:26 PM2/15/02
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On 15 Feb 2002 17:00:17 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall)
wrote:

>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
>Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997

Tina the Overmodest I expect.

Q

Sam Dennis

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Feb 15, 2002, 3:21:05 PM2/15/02
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You appear to have somehow overlooked the point: it's a nethack wish, but in
real life.

Magic resistance isn't very useful when you're the only person on
the planet who ever even had a chance at using magic. Being able to run an
extra half as fast or so isn't really particularly useful IRL, and I think
surviving death is pretty good. After all, without it we only live once.

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Mark Grant

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 20:21:05 +0000 (UTC),
s...@malfunction.screaming.net (Sam Dennis) wrote:

>Magic resistance isn't very useful when you're the only person on
>the planet who ever even had a chance at using magic. Being able to run an
>extra half as fast or so isn't really particularly useful IRL, and I think
>surviving death is pretty good. After all, without it we only live once.

On the other hand how often have you died lately? Trust me, there are
better wishes to be had, the chances of you getting real use out of an
AoLS is pretty minimal. Of course you could sell an AoLS for more than
most things in the game, so if you wanted a fat wad of cash and didn't
want to have to break your moral values to do so, this might be a good
way.

Of course you might be able to sell a magical dragon figurine for even
more but who really knows..

bd

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In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, "kcolrawyksthgin"
<kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:

> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like to know
> what people think now.
>
> ---
> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You, just
> playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you know, you have
> a handful of dust and there is a booming voice from the sky saying "You
> wrest one last charge from the worn out wand! The wand of wishing
> crumbles to dust! For what do you wish?"
>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging to show
> up, for what DO you wish?
> ---
>
> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain ability,
> blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of holding.

Wand of wishing?

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bd

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Feb 15, 2002, 4:37:54 PM2/15/02
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In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, "kcolrawyksthgin"
<kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:

> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like to know
> what people think now.
>
> ---
> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You, just
> playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you know, you have
> a handful of dust and there is a booming voice from the sky saying "You
> wrest one last charge from the worn out wand! The wand of wishing
> crumbles to dust! For what do you wish?"
>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging to show
> up, for what DO you wish?
> ---
>
> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain ability,
> blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of holding.

Ring of polymorph? Might be cool to change form... And if you're in
danger of dying of system shock, you can remove it for a while...

Sascha Wostmann

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Feb 15, 2002, 4:41:25 PM2/15/02
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Mark Grant :

> On the other hand how often have you died lately? Trust me, there are
> better wishes to be had, the chances of you getting real use out of an
> AoLS is pretty minimal. Of course you could sell an AoLS for more than
> most things in the game, so if you wanted a fat wad of cash and didn't
> want to have to break your moral values to do so, this might be a good
> way.

on the other (another?) hand, who could you sell an AoLS? Who would
trust you that it works? How could you convince someone that it would
work?

best regards,
Sascha

Sam Dennis

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Feb 15, 2002, 6:11:47 PM2/15/02
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bd wrote:
> In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, "kcolrawyksthgin"
><kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like to know
>> what people think now.
>>
>> ---
>> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You, just
>> playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you know, you have
>> a handful of dust and there is a booming voice from the sky saying "You
>> wrest one last charge from the worn out wand! The wand of wishing
>> crumbles to dust! For what do you wish?"
>>
>> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging to show
>> up, for what DO you wish?
>> ---
>>
>> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain ability,
>> blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of holding.
>
> Wand of wishing?

Come on, you _know_ that doesn't work.

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kcolrawyksthgin

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:30:52 GMT, "bd"
<2gb1gNOSP...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, "kcolrawyksthgin"
><kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> for what DO you wish?
>

>Wand of wishing?
>

a - a wand of wishing (0:-1)
You feel foolish! You haven't been paying attention!

bd

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In article <3c6d9...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>, "Sam Dennis"
<s...@malfunction.screaming.net> wrote:

Actually, i've never tried it. But it was a joke.

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Rast

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Sam Dennis wrote on Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:33:42 +0000 (UTC) in article
<3c6c3...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>:

> kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> > I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
> > to know what people think now.
> >
> > ---
> > Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
> > just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
> > know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
> > from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
> > wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
> > wish?"
> >
> > Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
> > to show up, for what DO you wish?
> > ---
> >
> > These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
> > ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
> > holding.
>
> So lifesaving and ESP don't strike you as desirable? Or, say, a unicorn horn?

The problem with lifesaving is that whatever just killed you might kill
you again. Still a good choice, though.

Helm of brilliance would be good, except that it might arrive at +0, and
I haven't seen many ?oEA lying around.

Quest artifacts are right out, because even if you could be sure you
were the right alignment, you would still get blasted for being the
wrong class. Since most of us are probably level 1 or so, the blasting
could be fatal.

It's risky, but I'd be tempted to go for a blessed figurine of a silver
dragon, because it would just be so cool.


Jonathan Ellis

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Rast wrote in message ...


Sod that... go for the Blessed Platinum Yendorian Express Card. A
credit card which *never* lets you down nor demands repayment. ;-)

Jonathan.

Justin Hiltscher

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"Mikael Halila" <mikael...@pp.inet.fi> wrote in message
news:3C6D485B...@pp.inet.fi...

>
> As for wishes IRL... I'd wish for a blessed ring of invisibility, but
> then I'd get a golden ring and big, big trouble... :)
>

With the inscription, 'one to rule them all', I presume? :)

Justin Hiltscher


Jacco

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> On 15 Feb 2002 17:00:17 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall)
> wrote:
>
>>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic Dlvl:0 $0
^^^^^
Wouldn't be polite to comment on that :-)
^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't believe it.
^^^^^^^
That I believe :-)

>>HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997

So who hit you? Or did you bump your toe? And are you really that old?

Tina Hall

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Jacco wrote:
> > On 15 Feb 2002 17:00:17 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina
> > Hall) wrote:
> >
> >>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
> ^^^^^
> Wouldn't be polite to comment on that :-)

Why?

> ^^^^^^^^^^^
> Don't believe it.

Ok I admit it, one point is because of the +1 =oGW I've got. :)
(They exist in [S].) Haven't been able to identify the other
ring.

> >>HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997
>
> So who hit you? Or did you bump your toe?

Na, just the general wear and tear.

> And are you really that old?

Yes, really that old, more by now too (by about 19*60). :)

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Bye
Tina
- An alien, obviously; nothing else makes any sense.

nyra

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Feb 16, 2002, 6:53:14 AM2/16/02
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Jacco schrieb:

>
> > On 15 Feb 2002 17:00:17 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic Dlvl:0 $0
> ^^^^^
> Wouldn't be polite to comment on that :-)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
> Don't believe it.
> ^^^^^^^
> That I believe :-)

Omega translates a 10 as "average"; i figure anything above 12
would be remarkable in RL; and something below 8 would be very
bad. Tina, i hope your Dx isn't that bad really. I think i'd
figure in the 10-12 range in everything other than Strength and
Charisma, where i'd expect 6 or less.

But since i've never been attacked by a newt or jackal and never
got punished for unopportune prayers i'm probably not a PC
anyway, but rather an orc shaman (points at people and curses,
but nothing ever happens):

Status of Nyra (chaotic): Level 4 HP 27(27) AC 5, peaceful.

Mikael Halila

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That's *exactly* why I said trouble... :) Imagine running away from a
Nazgűl, let alone NINE, in real life...

Wouldn't it have made for a much better book if Bilbo found a ring of
polymorph instead? Imagine Frodo polymorphing into a pit fiend at the
Prancing Pony... :D

--

Tina Hall

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Feb 16, 2002, 1:00:32 PM2/16/02
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Nyra wrote:
> Jacco schrieb:
> > > On 15 Feb 2002 17:00:17 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com
> > > (Tina Hall) wrote:
> > >
> > >>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Don't believe it.
>
> Omega translates a 10 as "average"; i figure anything above 12
> would be remarkable in RL; and something below 8 would be very
> bad. Tina, i hope your Dx isn't that bad really.

It is, am a typical 'Trampel' (approximately 'clumy someone').
Always bumping into things, can't throw or catch anything with
much luck either... Give me a real sword and I'd likey cut my
head off accidentally, I barely manage to handle a knife for
peeling potatoes. ;)

Tried carving (despite warnings) on a school-trip once, the scars
are still visible... (Quite remarcable placement really, managing
to cut in two different directions at once. ;P )

> I think i'd figure in the 10-12 range in everything other than
> Strength and Charisma, where i'd expect 6 or less.

Are we to infer from that, that you're a sly tiny ugly sneaking
gnome? ;)

> But since i've never been attacked by a newt or jackal and
> never got punished for unopportune prayers i'm probably not a
> PC anyway, but rather an orc shaman (points at people and
> curses, but nothing ever happens):

LOL.

> Status of Nyra (chaotic): Level 4 HP 27(27) AC 5, peaceful.

:) I like that (another chaotic, nice), good stuff for a sig too.

--

Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic

Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:>15379200

Chi

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ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall) wrote:
[snip]

>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
>Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997

"Dlvl:0"? Why not "Home 1"? For me, Dlvl 0 would be the entrance to
work ;-)

Regards,

Chris.

--
Chris the Hatamoto St:9 Dx:12 Co:13 In:15 Wi:8 Ch:9 Lawful
Home 1 $9597 HP:15(15) Pw:2(2) Ac:7 Exp:1/19 T:12663360 Hungry Burdened

Eva R. Myers

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Feb 16, 2002, 2:59:58 PM2/16/02
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nethack...@gmx.de (Sascha Wostmann) writes:

Hmmm, there seems to be an assumption floating around that if you
wished for an AoLS you would keep it for yourself. The ADOMer in me
feels the urge to give it to someone deserving who needs it. (This
post not intended as a flame - I wouldn't have thought of that either
had it not been for ADOM.)

I think I'd wish for holy water. You could use it to make more, as
has already been mentioned. It would also be easy to demonstrate its
magical powers (by dipping items in it and seeing them glow blue).
With the AoLS, you couldn't know that it was real until someone died
while wearing it, and then it would be gone. Another use of holy
water would be that (so long as you're not chaotic) you could drink it
to cure sickness, so it has most of the useful functionality of a
unicorn horn.

--
Eva Myers, Computer Officer, Statistical Laboratory, University of Cambridge
Email: erm...@cam.ac.uk WWW: http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/
Ignorance and deception can't save anybody. *Knowing* saves them.

Intoxicated astral medic

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:12:04 GMT, Mark Grant <qal...@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:49:01 +0100, nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:

And a leash isn't too hard to acquire in RL too

Sir Nobody

Intoxicated astral medic

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<slice and dice>

>
>[RL wish]
>
>> >blessed figurine of a sexy young brunette.. or else perhaps a
>> >blessed spellbook of charm.. choices choices..
>>
>> I think that choice would be made by what class you would be
>> classified in in RL, your Int and Wis.
>> Hmm
>>
>> Russell (My RL name) the Rambler St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6
>> Ch:8 Dlvl:0 $1229 HP:20(20) Pw:10(10) Ac:8 Exp:3 T:<large
>> number>
>
>Hey, I like that. Good stuff for a sig. :)
>
>> I personally would go for the charm spellbook, be wonderful in
>> a violent situation, or any situation with living beings for
>> that matter.
>
>That is a good idea. But where to get the power to cast that?

Mmm, I need 15 power points and I have 10, I will need to go and kill
some more flies to get to level four... Or I could try drinking a
potion of gain energy (potion labeled Red Bull) <g>

>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
>Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997

I like, what character class would that be?

Revised Sig;
Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8 Neutral
Dlvl:0 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4 T:170496124

Intoxicated astral medic

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:13:31 GMT, in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
Bos) wrote:

>David Damerell <dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> nyra <ny...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> >Lifesaving, well, if you're 85 years old and very weak and ill,
>> >having your life saved from a heart attack _once_ won't be such
>> >a great bonus, eh? And that's a rather likely sort of death.
>>
>> In general, using up an AoLS completely frees you from the related
>> condition.
>

>Myeah, but what's the use of being saved from a coronary if your lungs
>only have a couple more years to go? I'd rather have something that
>makes me enjoy my life more before that age.
>Buggered if I can think of what, though. Everything mentioned so far
>seems to be of limited interest to me. Maybe a blessed +5 helm of
>brilliance?

Thats probably the best idea now that I think of it, stick it on
someone already very intelegent (Mr Hawkins?), mention any disease
that you have, leave them for a while and with luck they should have
come up with a solution with their ultra-super-HOB enhanced
intelegence. (assuming they don't decide that humanity it unworthy of
life and invent a doomsday device)

Sir Nobody

Mark Grant

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:18:01 GMT,
shimmeringdra...@clawsandscales.co.uk (Intoxicated astral
medic) wrote:

Oh, yes, I didn't even see the leash comment.

Intoxicated astral medic

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:27:56 GMT, chri...@hotmail.com (Chi) wrote:

>ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall) wrote:
> [snip]
>>Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
>>Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997
>
>"Dlvl:0"? Why not "Home 1"? For me, Dlvl 0 would be the entrance to
>work ;-)

Not Home 1, because I can get to areas that have nothing to do with my
home without going through a magic portal or staircase <g>
Actually since I live on the side of a mountain I will change mine to
Dlvl -1 (not quite right since I am not high above the clouds but I
can pretend)

>Chris the Hatamoto St:9 Dx:12 Co:13 In:15 Wi:8 Ch:9 Lawful
>Home 1 $9597 HP:15(15) Pw:2(2) Ac:7 Exp:1/19 T:12663360 Hungry Burdened

Sig should follow, preparting rust iron pole in case of faliure...


Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8 Neutral
Dlvl:0 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4 T:170496124

Wielder of the Phase Sword of painful castration

Tina Hall

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Feb 17, 2002, 4:00:17 AM2/17/02
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Chi wrote:
> ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall) wrote:
> [snip]
> >Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
> >Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997
>
> "Dlvl:0"? Why not "Home 1"? For me, Dlvl 0 would be the
> entrance to work ;-)

You're right, though as there's no quest leader around (unless
it's hiding in a cat-fur) it can't really be Home either. Guess I
have to grow up a bit... ;)

--

Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic

Home2:0 $0 HP:61(63) Pw:15(15) Ac:10 Exp:10/8191 T:>15379200

Intoxicated astral medic

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:37:54 GMT, "bd"
<2gb1gNOSP...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

>In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, "kcolrawyksthgin"
><kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like to know
>> what people think now.
>>
>> ---
>> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You, just
>> playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you know, you have
>> a handful of dust and there is a booming voice from the sky saying "You
>> wrest one last charge from the worn out wand! The wand of wishing
>> crumbles to dust! For what do you wish?"
>>
>> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging to show
>> up, for what DO you wish?
>> ---
>>
>> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain ability,
>> blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of holding.
>
>Ring of polymorph? Might be cool to change form... And if you're in
>danger of dying of system shock, you can remove it for a while...

I'm not sure how the system shock thing works but I've had a gnomish
wizard start with a =oP, didn't much like him (no attack spells or MM
or /oP, and not so wonderful int) so I thought, lets play!, put it on,
and died suddenly a little time later. I have no intention of taking
that sort of risk in RL...
Upon more contemplation I think I would now get a spellbook of create
monster, get some sharp implement to use to poke holes in whatever I
summoned and have someone stand by with a firearm in case I summon
something that I can't take down myself. That way I get lots of
potentially magical loot, and might summon something that I can sell
to a zoo.
Mmm, reading backwards I think my logic is slightly flawed...
Although.. almost certain death by system shock vs reasonably unlikely
death by goblins etc... I think I would take the goblins.
I think I'm in a rambling mood tonight, expect long winded and badly
thought out replies to other posts.

Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8 Neutral

Dlvl:-1 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4 T:170497832

Tina Hall

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Intoxicated astral medic wrote:

What happened to the attributions?

[RL wish]

> >> I personally would go for the charm spellbook, be wonderful
> >> in a violent situation, or any situation with living beings
> >> for that matter.
> >
> >That is a good idea. But where to get the power to cast that?
>
> Mmm, I need 15 power points and I have 10, I will need to go
> and kill some more flies to get to level four...

Unless they are giant flies, I doubt the give any exp, they look
just like the bugs on the floor that do all sorts of things when
writing there...

> Or I could try drinking a potion of gain energy (potion labeled
> Red Bull) <g>

I rather doubt that. I think that's a cursed potion of restore
ability.

> >Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
> >Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997
>
> I like, what character class would that be?

The venerable good-for-nothing. :)

> Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8
> Neutral Dlvl:0 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4
> T:170496124

What kind of formula did you use to come up with that time?

Chi

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Jukka Lahtinen <wal...@clinet.fi.no.sp.am.invalid> wrote:
>chri...@hotmail.com (Chi) writes:
[Dlvls in RL sigs]

>>"Dlvl:0"? Why not "Home 1"? For me, Dlvl 0 would be the entrance to
>>work ;-)
>
>Hmm.. I have always thought the quest levels are underground, like any
>others with a positive level number.

No way! :-) Many of the Quest start levels, as well as a few of the
locate levels wouldn't make sense to be underground. The S, Ra, Ro and
K quests, for a start, if not many of the others. (Some are clearly
underground though, like the C quest entrance where it describes you as
walking down a stairwell)

Regards,

Chris.

Mark Grant

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On 17 Feb 2002 15:14:46 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen
<wal...@clinet.fi.no.sp.am.invalid> wrote:
>Haven't you seen any Red Bull ads?
>At least here in Finland the slogan in those is "Red Bull gives you
>wings", and somebody always ends up getting wings and flying.
>And I imagine the ads for the same product could be the same for other
>countries.


Ads? :P I can claim cocacola gives you the ability to see through
women's clothes but that doesn't make it a blessed potion of xray
vision (as opposed to the cursed potion which allows you to see
through only men's clothing, and the uncursed potion that allows
vision through anyone's :) )

It's still carbonated sugar water AKA cursed potion of tooth rot.

Q

bd

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Feb 17, 2002, 1:04:24 PM2/17/02
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In article <3c6f588b...@news.nzwide.ihug.co.nz>, "Intoxicated astral
medic" <shimmeringdra...@clawsandscales.co.uk> wrote:

O
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System shock takes a random number between 1 and 50 hp.

--
Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product.
Remove the meat to reply.

bd

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Feb 17, 2002, 1:07:36 PM2/17/02
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In article <walker.1...@cantina.clinet.fi>, "Jukka Lahtinen"
<wal...@clinet.fi.no.sp.am.invalid> wrote:

> ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall) writes:


>>Intoxicated astral medic wrote:
>
>>> Mmm, I need 15 power points and I have 10, I will need to go and kill
>>> some more flies to get to level four...
>
>>Unless they are giant flies, I doubt the give any exp, they look just
>>like the bugs on the floor that do all sorts of things when
>

> Have you ever actually managed to kill the bugs on the floor you
> mention? AFAIK, ANYTHING that you kill in the game gives you at least
> one exp point.

Wand of Death. 'nuff said.



>>> Or I could try drinking a potion of gain energy (potion labeled Red
>>> Bull) <g>
>
>>I rather doubt that. I think that's a cursed potion of restore ability.
>

> Haven't you seen any Red Bull ads?
> At least here in Finland the slogan in those is "Red Bull gives you
> wings", and somebody always ends up getting wings and flying. And I
> imagine the ads for the same product could be the same for other
> countries.

> (But at the time when there were headlines about some Swedes who died
> after having too many Red Bull drinks, we didn't see any of those ads
> for a while.. now they are showing those ads again.)

Mikael Halila

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Feb 17, 2002, 2:00:02 PM2/17/02
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Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>
>
> Haven't you seen any Red Bull ads?
> At least here in Finland the slogan in those is "Red Bull gives you
> wings", and somebody always ends up getting wings and flying.
> And I imagine the ads for the same product could be the same for other
> countries.

That makes it a potion of levitation, not a potion of gain energy! :)
Your scroll of identification must have been cursed.

> (But at the time when there were headlines about some Swedes who died
> after having too many Red Bull drinks, we didn't see any of those ads
> for a while.. now they are showing those ads again.)
> --

Ah, but it was blatantly obvious why the fools got themselves killed. I
never drink a can of soda before I've dropped it onto an altar
somewhere... :)

Mikael Halila
--
Mikael the Eccentric St:14 Dx:10 Co:8 In:10 Wi:10 Ch:8
Dlvl:0 $:0 HP:20(20) Pw:0(0) AC:9 Xp:1/2 T:19 Conf Sick

Tina Hall

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Feb 17, 2002, 3:30:34 PM2/17/02
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Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall) writes:
> >Intoxicated astral medic wrote:
>
> >> Mmm, I need 15 power points and I have 10, I will need to
> >> go and kill some more flies to get to level four...
>
> >Unless they are giant flies, I doubt the give any exp, they
> >look just like the bugs on the floor that do all sorts of
> >things when
>
> Have you ever actually managed to kill the bugs on the floor
> you mention?

Well, they stop moving occasionally, and later gotten information
leads to the conclusion that some of those times they are indeed
dead.

> AFAIK, ANYTHING that you kill in the game gives you at least
> one exp point.

But this is RL flies, which are likely made of the same stuff as
Nethack bugs, too tiny to warrant EXP. Thus you'd have to find
giant flies...

> >> Or I could try drinking a potion of gain energy (potion
> >> labeled Red Bull) <g>
>
> >I rather doubt that. I think that's a cursed potion of
> >restore ability.
>

> Haven't you seen any Red Bull ads?

I don't watch ads, as they are full of crap, IMAO. Any
information gotten there isn't worth anything either.

It's like the scroll that says 'READ ME', really. :)

--
Tina
(insufficiently chaotic): Level 10 HP 61(63) AC 10, confused.

Jerome Plut

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> I think I'd wish for holy water. You could use it to make more, as
> has already been mentioned. It would also be easy to demonstrate its
> magical powers (by dipping items in it and seeing them glow blue).
> With the AoLS, you couldn't know that it was real until someone died
> while wearing it, and then it would be gone. Another use of holy
> water would be that (so long as you're not chaotic) you could drink it
> to cure sickness, so it has most of the useful functionality of a
> unicorn horn.

Speeds boot in Real Life would be *great*. Just imagine being able to do
twice as many things in a day...

... for instance, working *and* reading rgrn. :-(

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Replace "invalid" by "fr" in my e-mail.

bd

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In article <a4pf7c$ieo$1...@nef.ens.fr>, "Jerome Plut"
<pl...@prao.ens.invalid> wrote:

mmm... Speed boots + 2 rings of speed... then enter the Olympics... :)

Jonathan Ellis

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Jerome Plut wrote in message ...

>Speeds boot in Real Life would be *great*. Just imagine being able to
do
>twice as many things in a day...
>
>... for instance, working *and* reading rgrn. :-(

nah... reading rgrn and playing nethack, and sod the working... ;-)

Jonathan.

Adam Norberg

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I'd go for a =oPolymorph. Whenever I got really bored, I could put it
on and see what happens... If I had a full /WoW, I'd go for
=oPolymorph, =oPolyControl, and "AoUnchanging. So I could turn myself
into a female black dragon, lay an egg, turn back, hatch the egg, and
have a pet dragon. The "AoUnchanging is for if I get in a scrape, I
can wait for the ring to trigger, turn into a dragon myself, and wear
the Amulet so it won't wear off...

Intoxicated astral medic

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:04:24 GMT, "bd"
<2gb1gNOSP...@sneakemail.com> wrote:

mmm, definately wouldn't want one in RL then, I have only 26 hp so I
would have a ~50/50 chance of surviving a system shock, no thank you.


Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8 Neutral

Dlvl:-1 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4 T:170498443 Conf

Intoxicated astral medic

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On 17 Feb 2002 11:30:21 GMT, ti...@kruemel.dnsalias.com (Tina Hall)
wrote:

>Intoxicated astral medic wrote:


>
>What happened to the attributions?
>
>[RL wish]
>
>> >> I personally would go for the charm spellbook, be wonderful
>> >> in a violent situation, or any situation with living beings
>> >> for that matter.
>> >
>> >That is a good idea. But where to get the power to cast that?
>>
>> Mmm, I need 15 power points and I have 10, I will need to go
>> and kill some more flies to get to level four...
>
>Unless they are giant flies, I doubt the give any exp, they look
>just like the bugs on the floor that do all sorts of things when
>writing there...

Mmm, need something bigger then. Blowflies? Newts? I don't think
I'll take down a cow on our farm though...

>> Or I could try drinking a potion of gain energy (potion labeled
>> Red Bull) <g>
>
>I rather doubt that. I think that's a cursed potion of restore
>ability.

Why won't reality get out of my way for once?

>> >Tina the Loony St:10 Dx:6 Co:8 In:10 Wi:14 Ch:10 Chaotic
>> >Dlvl:0 $0 HP:15(16) Pw:4(4) Ac:10 Exp:4/127 T:15482997
>>
>> I like, what character class would that be?
>
>The venerable good-for-nothing. :)

<g>

>> Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8
>> Neutral Dlvl:0 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4
>> T:170496124
>
>What kind of formula did you use to come up with that time?

The most logical one I could think of (note, this still means its
rather daft). I thought, ok, how long would it take me to set myself
up to hit a nasty bitey horrible monster in a deep dark and nasty
dungeon filled with dust that makes me sneeze and wip out all the
Elbereth's that I wrote everyehere I possibly could, then I figured
out how many such periods of time I had lived for. Then I incremented
it a few hundred because some time had passed. *satisfied smile*
I couldn't figure out a sensible method of converting New Zealand
dollars into Zorkimids though :P

Sir Nobody the Sightseer St:7 Dx:16 Co:12 In:18 Wi:6 Ch:8 Neutral

Dlvl:-1 $1249 HP:26(26) Pw:12(15) Ac:8 Exp:4 T:170498443 Conf

Intoxicated astral medic

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On 17 Feb 2002 15:07:20 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen
<wal...@clinet.fi.no.sp.am.invalid> wrote:

>shimmeringdra...@clawsandscales.co.uk (Intoxicated astral medic) writes:
>>On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:13:31 GMT, in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
>

>>>seems to be of limited interest to me. Maybe a blessed +5 helm of
>>>brilliance?
>
>>Thats probably the best idea now that I think of it, stick it on
>>someone already very intelegent (Mr Hawkins?), mention any disease
>>that you have, leave them for a while and with luck they should have
>

>Hmm.. yes, Stephen Hawkins (I suppose you mean him) IS highly intelligent,
>but he is an astrophysicist, not a medical doctor. So he doesn't
>necessarily know much about medicine. OTOH, given his condition, he might
>very possibly be interested..

I don't think anything as simple as not knowing that much about the
subject would stand in the way of anyone as intelegent as Stephen
Hawkings + the effects of a HOB (suitably enchanted of course). Hell,
with that much intelegence I wouldn't be surprised if you could
extrapolate the nescesary information from a basic human biology
booklet...

Dylan O'Donnell

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"bd" <2gb1gNOSP...@sneakemail.com> writes:
> In article <3c6f588b...@news.nzwide.ihug.co.nz>, "Intoxicated astral
> medic" <shimmeringdra...@clawsandscales.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:37:54 GMT, "bd"

[snip massive overquoting. Please don't do that.]

> >>Ring of polymorph? Might be cool to change form... And if you're in
> >>danger of dying of system shock, you can remove it for a while...
> >
> > I'm not sure how the system shock thing works but I've had a gnomish
> > wizard start with a =oP, didn't much like him (no attack spells or MM or
> > /oP, and not so wonderful int) so I thought, lets play!, put it on, and
> > died suddenly a little time later. I have no intention of taking that
> > sort of risk in RL...

> System shock takes a random number between 1 and 50 hp.

For values of '50' equal to 30.

(The chance of avoiding system shock is CON+1/20; you'll also never
suffer from it if the polymorph is controlled or constrained. Not
that the latter applies to the situation under discussion, but for
completeness.)

--
: Dylan O'Donnell http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/ :
: "Peek-a-boo, I can't see you, everything must be grand; :
: Boo-ka-pee, you can't see me, as long as I've got me head in t'sand..." :
: -- Michael Flanders, "The Ostrich" :

Richard Bos

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Jukka Lahtinen <wal...@clinet.fi.no.sp.am.invalid> wrote:

> shimmeringdra...@clawsandscales.co.uk (Intoxicated astral medic) writes:

> >On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:13:31 GMT, in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
>

> >>seems to be of limited interest to me. Maybe a blessed +5 helm of
> >>brilliance?
>
> >Thats probably the best idea now that I think of it, stick it on
> >someone already very intelegent (Mr Hawkins?), mention any disease
> >that you have, leave them for a while and with luck they should have
>

> Hmm.. yes, Stephen Hawkins

Hawkin_g_.

And I intended to wear it myself. Some might say I need one <g>.

Richard

Richard Bos

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Rast <ra...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Quest artifacts are right out, because even if you could be sure you
> were the right alignment, you would still get blasted for being the
> wrong class.

Oh, I wouldn't be so sure of that. More than enough Archeologists,
Healers, Monks and Priests around IRL. And too many Rogues and Turists.

Richard

David Damerell

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Mark Grant <qal...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>On the other hand how often have you died lately? Trust me, there are
>better wishes to be had, the chances of you getting real use out of an
>AoLS is pretty minimal.

History suggests to me that the chances are 100%.
--
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Mark Grant

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On 18 Feb 2002 16:12:30 +0000 (GMT), David Damerell
<dame...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Mark Grant <qal...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>On the other hand how often have you died lately? Trust me, there are
>>better wishes to be had, the chances of you getting real use out of an
>>AoLS is pretty minimal.
>
>History suggests to me that the chances are 100%.

Well assuming you're not dying at a young age, an AoLS is unlikely to
increase your longevity singificantly.. Yes it will restore you to
good health, but it won't make you live forever.

And this is also how you would sell it, find some rich guy who's dying
and tell him you'll save his life for a few million dollars payable
upon survival.

Q

Ciarán

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Feb 18, 2002, 4:50:13 PM2/18/02
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Assuming I could use it, a blessed spellbook of polymorph could be
fun.
Possibly a blessed tin of floating eye meat, but I think I'd prefer a
blessed luckstone.
You might have your life saved anyway (when that car that was about to
hit you just manages to brake in time), and there might be many other
beneficial situations...

Sam Dennis

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Well, I don't think I could stomach floating eye, no matter how it's prepared,
and I doubt that any of us are skilled enough to cast such an advanced spell
(or to deal with any golems that might arise,) but I _do_ like the idea of a
luckstone, it is a concept that simply did not occur to me but is probably one
of the best wishes you could possibly make in real life.

--
r@,,+2 'a,kd"

Remco Gerlich

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Feb 18, 2002, 6:44:40 PM2/18/02
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Richard Bos <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote in rec.games.roguelike.nethack:

This is great. You mean I could safely get the PYEC, but only as long as I
am on holiday somewhere all the time.

Now what are the best things in RL to use blessed charging on?

--
Remco Gerlich

bd

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In article <slrna7349m....@pino.selwerd.nl>, "Remco Gerlich"
<scar...@pino.selwerd.nl> wrote:

Batteries?

David Goldfarb

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In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>,
kcolrawyksthgin <kcolraw...@attbi.com> wrote:
>Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
>just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
>know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
>from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
>wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
>wish?"
>
>Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
>to show up, for what DO you wish?

The big question here is, are we limited to vanilla? If I could
include Slash'EM, then no question in my mind -- an amulet of flying.
If it is limited to vanilla, then I'm not sure. A ring of invisibility
would be quite nice, but so would an amulet of life saving, or a
+2 helm of brilliance. (Wished for at +2 to maximize the chance
of getting the wished enchantment: it would really suck to get a
+0 one and have no way to enchant it up.)

--
David Goldfarb <*>|"Federico Fellini brought his own security to
gold...@ocf.berkeley.edu | tonight's show...and they were six of the
| toughest clown midgets I've ever seen."
gold...@csua.berkeley.edu | -- Billy Crystal

Mikael Halila

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Credit cards.

--

Richard Bos

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scar...@pino.selwerd.nl (Remco Gerlich) wrote:

> Richard Bos <in...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote in rec.games.roguelike.nethack:
> > Rast <ra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Quest artifacts are right out, because even if you could be sure you
> > > were the right alignment, you would still get blasted for being the
> > > wrong class.
> >
> > Oh, I wouldn't be so sure of that. More than enough Archeologists,
> > Healers, Monks and Priests around IRL. And too many Rogues and Turists.
>
> This is great. You mean I could safely get the PYEC, but only as long as I
> am on holiday somewhere all the time.

And, of course, as long as you manage to kill the local head mafioso.

> Now what are the best things in RL to use blessed charging on?

Oh, just about anything you can. Batteries. Fountain pens. Your car. The
ozone layer...

Richard

Kalle A. Sandstrom

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In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
> to know what people think now.
>
> ---
> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
> just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
> know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
> from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
> wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
> wish?"
>
> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
> to show up, for what DO you wish?
> ---
>
> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
> ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
> holding.
>

I'd most likely pick the blessed ring of free action. Besides being
rather cool in a slightly useless way, it'd help me survive the
encounter with a completely unexpected floating eye around the next
corner. The RNG has taught me that you won't find a wand of wishing just
lying around unguarded, IRL or not.

--
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Intoxicated astral medic

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:35:27 +0200, "Kalle A. Sandstrom"
<ksan...@iki.fi> wrote:

>In article <3c6c36b7...@netnews.attbi.com>, kcolrawyksthgin wrote:
>> I've posted this before, but that was in summer 98, and I'd like
>> to know what people think now.
>>
>> ---
>> Lets imagine that you are outside and find a smooth stick. You,
>> just playing around, pick it up and say "Zap!" Next thing you
>> know, you have a handful of dust and there is a booming voice
>> from the sky saying "You wrest one last charge from the worn out
>> wand! The wand of wishing crumbles to dust! For what do you
>> wish?"
>>
>> Other than wishing you'd waited for a blessed scroll of charging
>> to show up, for what DO you wish?
>> ---
>>
>> These days, I'd probably go for 2 blessed potions of gain
>> ability, blessed fixed +2 boots of speed, or a blessed bag of
>> holding.
>>
>
>I'd most likely pick the blessed ring of free action. Besides being
>rather cool in a slightly useless way, it'd help me survive the
>encounter with a completely unexpected floating eye around the next
>corner. The RNG has taught me that you won't find a wand of wishing just
>lying around unguarded, IRL or not.

Floating eyes can't hurt you by themselves, so being paralysed in RL
shouldn't matter too much... so long as you and the floating eyes are
the only NHish things around...

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